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LMAO I was born the same day as Jesus.

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JLGatsby

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I was reading this Wikipedia article of the date of my birth,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_29

And I noticed it said, "Jesus of Nazareth," for people born on that day.

I Googled it and found this:
http://www.new-life.net/chrtms10.htm

LMAO. I'm an atheist, but it's cool to know I have a more famous person than Byrant Gumble or Gene Autry born the same day as me. I never knew that.

To those who says he was born on December 25th, no, no he wasn't. That is just when it's celebrated. In fact, that's just a holiday Christians stole from Pagans.
 
Wikipedia claiming September 29 is more than likely wrong and cannot be proven, but the other stuff is new news why?

That stuff is so old, it is older than the internet.
 
Originally posted by: DaShen
Wikipedia claiming September 29 is more than likely wrong and cannot be proven, but the other stuff is new news why?

That stuff is so old, it is older than the internet.
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It cannot be proven, but what it is is an estimate by scientists (see 2nd link).

He was clearly not born in the dead of winter.

They just list 9/29 as the most likely date.

In fact, you couldn't even prove that he ever existed in the first place, let alone his exact date of birth. It's just an estimate.

I just thought it was odd.
 
It says Jesus was born in 2BC. Jesus was born during the reign if Herod. Herod Died in 4BC. Don't put absolute faith in Wikipedia being correct.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: DaShen
Wikipedia claiming September 29 is more than likely wrong and cannot be proven, but the other stuff is new news why?

That stuff is so old, it is older than the internet.
Click to expand...

It cannot be proven, but what it is is an estimate by scientists (see 2nd link).

He was clearly not born in the dead of winter.

They just list 9/29 as the most likely date.

In fact, you couldn't even prove that he ever existed in the first place, let alone his exact date of birth. It's just an estimate.

I just thought it was odd.
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There are so many "scientific" estimates (actually not to split hairs, but it is more of a "historical" estimate than a "scientific" <science means proof>) on his actual birthdate, that it is unfathomable to truly say a specific day. I have heard estimates ranging from 8-6 B.C. in the time of Spring during a astronomical event that is recorded, 4 B.C. (a rough estimate by some historians) by popular critic around the time of easter. And now this 2.B.C. September stuff. You can say it is highly unlikely he was born in December and that the Winter Solstice holiday was changed to Jesus' birthday by popular leader, including Constantine, to encorporate popular belief, but otherwise it is not right to actually say a specific date. Just like it is not right to actually say the day of the 2nd Coming. You just can't know.
 
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: DaShen
Wikipedia claiming September 29 is more than likely wrong and cannot be proven, but the other stuff is new news why?

That stuff is so old, it is older than the internet.
Click to expand...

It cannot be proven, but what it is is an estimate by scientists (see 2nd link).

He was clearly not born in the dead of winter.

They just list 9/29 as the most likely date.

In fact, you couldn't even prove that he ever existed in the first place, let alone his exact date of birth. It's just an estimate.

I just thought it was odd.
Click to expand...

There are so many "scientific" estimates (actually not to split hairs, but it is more of a "historical" estimate than a "scientific" <science means proof>) on his actual birthdate, that it is unfathomable to truly say a specific day. I have heard estimates ranging from 8-6 B.C. in the time of Spring during a astronomical event that is recorded, 4 B.C. (a rough estimate by some historians) by popular critic around the time of easter. And now this 2.B.C. September stuff. You can say it is highly unlikely he was born in December and that the Winter Solstice holiday was changed to Jesus' birthday by popular leader, including Constantine, to encorporate popular belief, but otherwise it is not right to actually say a specific date. Just like it is not right to actually say the day of the 2nd Coming. You just can't know.
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Looking at the Bible reference they give (Luke 2:1-7), it references the Roman Cencus, which likely can be approximately dated, at least in year, but the note I have in my Bible says the Cencus took place over a long period, so a specific date is probably conjecture.
There's also the time when shepherds might be out with flocks in the hills, which is likely a seasonal occurence, and should probably be factored in. I don't know when shepherds in Palestine/Israel watch their flocks.
 
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