Live: Trump holds massive 'MAGA' rally in Orlando to kick off 2020 campaign

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Homerboy

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I don't know if this has been mentioned through the thread, but did anyone notice the signs just say "Trump 2020" and not "Trump/Pence 2020"?
Right from his website:
Rally-Sign-Red_900x900.png
 

Lanyap

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That one token they hired is still placed behind Trump. Maybe they need a new one.



That looks like an older Michael the Black Man.


Fact checkers will be working overtime after this speech.
 

Lanyap

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I don't know if this has been mentioned through the thread, but did anyone notice the signs just say "Trump 2020" and not "Trump/Pence 2020"?
Right from his website:
Rally-Sign-Red_900x900.png



It's still early but I think Trump is going to pick a VP that is hardcore GOP. His base would support it.
 

IronWing

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Trump announced that Pence would be his running mate back in November. We'll have to see. Pence is a very good man.
 

SMOGZINN

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I don't know if this has been mentioned through the thread, but did anyone notice the signs just say "Trump 2020" and not "Trump/Pence 2020"?
Right from his website:

Trump does not share headlines. It is all about him.
 

K1052

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I saw some snippets of it. Fortunately it looks like only Fox carried it in its entirety.

What I can gather from what I saw is that Hillary Clinton will be defeated in 2020, we will go to Mars (of which the moon is a part), and Trump will cure AIDS. Also that the steel industry is amazing...somehow.

Also that the campaign's outreach to African Americans and Latinos seems to be going not so well judging by the elderly paleness of the attendees.
 

Muse

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dude has been doing his Nuremburg rallies for 6 years now. no one actually gives a fuck.
Not being able to stand watching/hearing him, I just look at the people they show behind him... carrying signs, standing there and I wonder, what are they thinking, who are they, what motivates them... what in the world is going on with them that makes them hitch their trailer to Trump's wagon? Yesterday he said "illegal witch hunt" and I hit Fast Forward.
 

blankslate

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dude has been doing his Nuremburg rallies for 6 years now. no one actually gives a fuck.

You mean no one, who isn't a person easily lead by their fear of the other (aka xenophobia), Jingoism, etc., has any fucks to give about Trumps rallies....
Unfortunately there are enough barely thinking people in this country who are xenophobic and will swallow up any thing that is coated in yummy yummy Jingoism to give Trump at least a 30% approval rating according to reputable polling organizations like Gallup.


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Hayabusa Rider

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Not so sure of the War with Iran.
I think enough voters on all sides are tired of perpetual ME wars.
Don’t think any Congress critter that votes for a use of force bill or sits on their hands while the current mandate is extended to Iran will survive or ever be able to be in public again.

When did Trump consider anything but his own interests? If Iran offends him and Bolton goads as well then the world does not matter, Congress or not. He'll send tens of thousands and what will Congress do? Cut them off from supplies?

I shouldn't underestimate how this benefits Trump as no President has been voted out of Office during war time, no Congress has prevented a war from happening nor will it cut off finances. That's why I believe it's imperative to impeach before the decision to attack is made.
 

soundforbjt

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When did Trump consider anything but his own interests? If Iran offends him and Bolton goads as well then the world does not matter, Congress or not. He'll send tens of thousands and what will Congress do? Cut them off from supplies?

I shouldn't underestimate how this benefits Trump as no President has been voted out of Office during war time, no Congress has prevented a war from happening nor will it cut off finances. That's why I believe it's imperative to impeach before the decision to attack is made.
How will impeachment stop him? The Senate won't convict.
 
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When did Trump consider anything but his own interests? If Iran offends him and Bolton goads as well then the world does not matter, Congress or not. He'll send tens of thousands and what will Congress do? Cut them off from supplies?

I shouldn't underestimate how this benefits Trump as no President has been voted out of Office during war time, no Congress has prevented a war from happening nor will it cut off finances. That's why I believe it's imperative to impeach before the decision to attack is made.

I know this is a deplorable way of thinking, I battle with myself to not think like a deplorable however in this case my deplorable side needs to come out.
Trump sends troops to war, every single democrat opposes it I think a overwhelming amount of Americans will not support war with Iran. Troops get sent under some out dated use of force authorization. Mitch blocks every bill to reel the effort in. Watch what happens to the house & Senate next election. There will be consequences, there will be consequences when Democrats hold both houses with a solid majority.

Republicans will go back to being 1980’s republicans sayings D’s hate the military and win seats back but that will be far down the road.
 
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Was a musing to watch the liar in chief take credit for Obama's achievements to the cheers of the mentally feeble in the audience.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449240-trump-touts-passing-va-bill-that-passed-under-obama

https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump
President Trump at his 2020 campaign kickoff rally on Tuesday took credit for passing a veteran's health care bill that was signed into law by former President Obama.

"We passed VA Choice," he said, referring to a bill that allows veterans to seek health options outside the Veterans Affairs-run system. "You go out now, you get a doctor, you fix yourself up, the doctor sends us the bill, we pay for it. And you know what? It doesn't matter because the life and the veteran is more important, but we also happen to save a lot of money doing that.

 

blankslate

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Trump sends troops to war, every single democrat opposes it I think a overwhelming amount of Americans will not support war with Iran.

IMHO, That is overly optimistic.... remember the vote to give GWB and his handler Cheney to invade Iraq? about 41% of Democratic Congresspeople voted yes.
Based on that it's hard to imagine getting every single Democratic vote to be against Trump taking engaging in military conflict with Iran when we still have enough conservative leaning Dems who might cave to the Military Industrial Complex.


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Jhhnn

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IMHO, That is overly optimistic.... remember the vote to give GWB and his handler Cheney to invade Iraq? about 41% of Democratic Congresspeople voted yes.
Based on that it's hard to imagine getting every single Democratic vote to be against Trump taking engaging in military conflict with Iran when we still have enough conservative leaning Dems who might cave to the Military Industrial Complex.


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GWB had 9/11, the greatest political windfall since Pearl Harbor. The GOP fashioned it into a club against all enemies, foreign & domestic.
 

blankslate

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That is what they said of Nixon as well.

I could be mistaken but the Republicans in the Senate didn't have anyone as brazenly partisan and two-faced as Sen. McConnell and unlike Trump Nixon had won his 2nd term with the calls for impeachment starting early in that term. Additionally it took months to maybe a year plus to reach the point that undeniable majority of the voters supported impeachment.

Trump is in his first term with more influence over the Republicans in the House and Senate than Nixon had just based on how partisan the divide has become since the 70s and the call for impeachment started later in his term than the call for impeachment of Nixon.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...-can-learn-from-the-nixon-impeachment-inquiry

I do hope as time goes on and the Democratic members of Congress and the media start speaking about Trump's other deeds that count as "high crimes and misdemeanors" it shows a pattern that leads to more support among voters for impeachment.
I just wonder if that can happen before Nov. 2020

Nixon didn't have Fox, talk radio, and right-wing websites that only the Republicans base listened to.

Unfortunately these factors will count with a portion of the voting populace as well.




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Hayabusa Rider

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How will impeachment stop him? The Senate won't convict.


Here's the political calculus and Trump does care about his ego.

Trump goes to war before impeachment- Democrats won't impeach because they look like they don't care about our troops and they do badly in 2020.

Trump goes to war after impeachment. Trump and Republicans are willing to put American lives in harm's way to avoid the consequences of impeachment and win in 2020.

These things don't look like and they both strongly impact public perception for those who aren't Trumpettes and that matters by 2020. It also determines what happens next and when as far as partisans are concerned.
 

nakedfrog

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Liar in Chief is off to a great start

CNN: Fact check: Trump's Orlando rally featured more than 15 false claims over 76 minutes.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/politics/fact-check-trump-orlando-rally/index.html
:tearsofjoy:
"Thirty-three thousand emails deleted, think of it. I keep mentioning, you know, there was a lot of corruption on the other side. But you know, the simplest thing: they get a subpoena from the United States Congress and they decide that they're not going to give it. So, Lindsey Graham, they did delete and they acid wash, which is very expensive. Nobody does it. They acid wash those emails, never to be seen again. But we may find them somewhere deep in the State Department."
Facts First: A server company working for Hillary Clinton deleted these emails using a free software program called BleachBit. BleachBit is not expensive. It involves neither actual bleach nor acid.
 

kage69

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Jhhnn

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Liar in Chief is off to a great start

CNN: Fact check: Trump's Orlando rally featured more than 15 false claims over 76 minutes.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/politics/fact-check-trump-orlando-rally/index.html
I watched a snip of it, the low information high ignorance verbal diarrhea from some Floridians was more than I could stomach though. It's like listening to North Koreans, these poor fools are utterly brainwashed. Fox really did a number on America.

They know Trump lies about everything. Doesn't matter. Trump strokes their amygdalas & they love the way it feels. Trump preys on their hopes & fears in an utterly cruel fashion.
 

VRAMdemon

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He has a secret plan to cure cancer <waves paper about> But if you idiots don't elect him then he's not gonna tell anyone the secret! So there!

We are being ruled by a four year old.

Lol!...Trump's approval rating in Orlando is 29%.
 
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