Little Revelation

Possessed Freak

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Okay, after going to eat dinner, I have thought about why TA only has 600+ contributers compared to the 2000+ members in RC5.

This menas that old contributers have stopped for one reason or another. There are only a few amount of reasons out there (some of them pretty rational)

Joined and then quit because they felt the project was
1) hurting their computer's performance
2) reformmated and never bothered to put the client back on
3) Project lost it's flare

The first two are somewhat forgivable, but lets look at the third.
Why would RC5 lose it's flare?
1) Finally realized they were not going to win any money
2) Thought it was dull and pointless to go on

Why would members of the *best* team in the world think rc5 was dull and pointless?
Perhaps they figured their meager keyrate would not be missed or noticed. Perhaps they have started to go down (up) on mikas/dnet, (no longer improving in rank).

How can you make sure each member feels welcome here? Well you can say it repeatedly in the forums (amoung the many "woooo I just gained 12090982987911 places on dnet" threads). You can try to make them more competive, by having the lesser herded people compete against themselves, (wow my p2-400 just edged out your k6-500, wooooo *sarcasm*). Alternatly you can try to convince them to assimilate more (some of them can, many can't, it's just one computer for them for now). One other solution is to say wel now you two can feel like a big member, join our miniteam and you can compete against all those corporate guys.

In the end, miniteams kept som members cracking rc5 longer than they would have IF they remained solo. I am included in that statistic. What is more important, keeping the members that have joined TA or increasing your herds to fill the gap of members leaving? Eventually if you go the latter route, you will end up failing to fill the increasing number of lost cpus.
 

Camm

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OK PF :)

I may be starting to see reason.;)
Your points are all correct as I see it.

Camm
 

Lord Demios

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/me 's brain is fried from getting UT stats running, so that's about as good as it gets today.

LD
 

Possessed Freak

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I have decided to quit RC5, not directly TA (yet...????) Right now I am seeking another project.. please do not try to recruit me btw, I know exactly which projects I am *not* joining.
 

TwoFace

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Yup glad you're staying with TA!

Good luck on whatever project you decide to run!

Two-Face
 

fraek

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First of all, I'm not working for AT but for "the other side."

I am not in a subteam. I am getting lower in the overall stats of my team.
I never make it to the daily top 30 (and I've tried it....) The longer I stay
with my team the less the rest of the people will see me. Within a month, I won't
get higher in the overall stats.

You may ask yourself why I am still doing this B#llsh@t? Well, just like all
you guys here, I like to be part of, what I think is, the best team in the world.
All the small fish make a big fish. Just doing my small part of the big load of work
and read all the stats and things makes it nice for me. Read the reactions and read about people who "assimilate" lots of computers for our team. It's all about the team here. Miniteams are there too for our team. There will always be big players in a team but that isn't the problem. Our team has a lot of miniteams too (some could almost compete with the top 30 teams overall) but they are no competition for me. I only look at the overall goal. Not finding the key, not being #1 overall but just be number 1 in the dailies so everybody will ask theirselfs where and what our site is about. It is very nice for a small country we live here in holland to be better in something then the big countries in the world (also read sites instead of countries.)

The best thing that could happen for both our teams would be:
A) my team goes down and a competition will start again.
B) AT raises his keyrate and we have a competition too.

The best days of this contest were the days just before the PhF. My team and AT where
fighting for the number 1 spot in the dailies everyday and I was waiting for the stats everyday to see how had won. Lets hope this will return.

Otherwise we will both be wandering in the dark when we reach the number 1 and 2 spots and no other team is there to compete with us and we can;t compete with eachother anymore.

SO AT, ASSIMILATE, ASSIMILATE, ASSIMILATE!!!!!! Not computers but members! Miniteams are nice but members were the secret of our succes...


I Didn't use my team name in respect for DanC. I also had no intentions to make people angry. If I did that I'm very sorry and hope you will accept my excuses.
 

Mandrill

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Fraek:

Very well said. People here really have lost sight of the ultimate goal. We always tell new members who are only cracking with one pc that every little bit counts. Now it seems like "every little bit counts just as long as you don't crack more blocks then me". That is the wrong attitude.

I think the mini teams are a good thing for the team. From what I have seen, since they got going, they started a cycle of competition of each miniteam trying to outdo the other. This has ment a big upswing in assimilations and block production. That being said, I have no interest in joining a mini team. I prefer to crack on my own and try to out do myself rather than anyone else.


If people have a problem with the miniteam posts, (which have quieted down considerably) don't click on the thread that contains stuff regarding the miniteam. No one forces you to read every post :)

If you have a problem with miniteams out producing you, well then I would think one would need to examine why they are on a team in the first place. Does this mean that if I won the lottery and put together a crack rack that would blow everyone on the team out of the water, that people would quit the team because they couldn't compete with it? Even though it would help the team get into first place and stay ahead of the DPC?

Where are the teams priorities now?
 

MWalkden

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Well let's see, I increased my herd this week by adding a Duron 650, 10 P120's and a P200. I didn't do it by getting more folks to join. Just some old fashioned work. I didn't ask for a pat and nobody gave me one either, but you know what? I patted every back I read about doing anything for TA. Is this how the forum has changed for some people? Did you used to pat your buddies back? Now you don't?

I looked at the 30 posts on the front page here and you know what? There are 6 of them congratulating folks for their efforts and that doesn't include TWTA's thread. What's wrong with that? Is a group of people that do have a competitive spirit changing why any of you are doing RC5?

A ton more posts are answering questions and 1 is welcoming a newcommer. Is this something new?............ NO!

Then there are all these threads about quitting and how the forum has changed and why I can't compete with a mini-team!:| like they were competing with large herds before!:| It's crap like this that makes me sick! I'm out there busting my but to be part of TA, doing it my way in a mini-team atmosphere with my buddies and all the sudden everyone gets upset because of mini-teams passing them on some stats list.:( Well BOO HOO!

Has your compition changed because of that?!!!!!! --NO! The guy above and below are still there and it does not matter if a different breed finds a spot above you or below!

If you aren't here to compete then you have no reason to quit do you?. If you don't post anymore That's not my damn fault! If you were here to compete, has that changed? NO! Nothing! Maybe it is those that are leaving that have changed!

They DID work hard to get where ever they are, I am too, but I thought it was really for TA......Guess for some it was about them. Thought us new people were supposed to look up to oldtimers? You guys know the ropes, got crack racks going, witnessed the growth. What a waste to just up and quit. What a bunch of crap that it's because of mini-teams:(.

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