Little League punishes Chicago team

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http://espn.go.com/chicago/story/_/...s-chicago-team-us-championship-suspends-coach

Little League Baseball has stripped the U.S. championship from the Chicago-based Jackie Robinson West team and has suspended the coach for violating a rule prohibiting the use of players who live outside the geographic area that the team represents, it was announced Wednesday.

The Jackie Robinson West team must vacate wins from the 2014 Little League Baseball International Tournament -- including its Great Lakes Regional and United States championships.

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The Jackie Robinson West Little League team was ruled to have used players from outside its local area by recruiting players from neighboring districts.
The team's manager, Darold Butler, has been suspended from Little League activity, and Illinois District 4 administrator Michael Kelly has been removed from his position.

The organization found that the Jackie Robinson team used a falsified boundary map, and that team officials met with neighboring Little League districts in Illinois to claim players and build what amounts to a superteam.

As a result, the United States championship has been awarded to Mountain Ridge Little League from Las Vegas.

"Quite honestly, we had to do this," Little League International president/CEO Stephen D. Keener told ESPN on Wednesday. "We had no choice. We had to maintain the integrity of the Little League program. ... As painful as this is, it's a necessary outcome from what we finally have been able to confirm.

"The real troubling part of this is that we feel horribly for the kids who are involved with this. Certainly, no one should cast any blame, any aspersions on the children who participated on this team. To the best of our knowledge, they had no knowledge that they were doing anything wrong. They were just kids out playing baseball, which is the way it should be. They were celebrated for that by many, many organizations, many people. What we're most concerned about today is that it's going to be hard on these kids. And that's the part that breaks your heart."

Jackie Robinson West drew significant attention as it advanced to the tournament's title game, where it fell to Seoul, South Korea. In a sport that increasingly struggles to attract African-Americans, the team representing Chicago's South Side emerged as a force, beating Las Vegas 7-5 in the U.S. title game.

The Chicago players were lauded for not just their prowess on the field but also for their sportsmanship, and they later were honored by President Barack Obama at the White House.

"This is a heartbreaking decision," Keenan said in a statement. "What these players accomplished on the field and the memories and lessons they have learned during the Little League World Series tournament is something the kids can be proud of, but it is unfortunate that the actions of adults have led to this outcome. ...

"As painful as this is, we feel it a necessary decision to maintain the integrity of the Little League program. No team can be allowed to attempt to strengthen its team by putting players on their roster that live outside their boundaries."

Little League embraces policies designed to preserve traditional community-based leagues in which classmates play with classmates, friends with friends.

"Little League takes these matters very seriously and has spent countless hours gathering information about the many issues facing Jackie Robinson West Little League and Illinois District 4," Keener said. "During our review, it became clear that both Jackie Robinson West officials and District Administrator, Mike Kelly signed documents to make players eligible who should not have been."

The national organization said it was Kelly's responsibility to verify player eligibility based on player information that is gathered and signed by the league president, player agent and team manager.

Little League also said that it wasn't until meetings in January that local league officials acknowledged that they knew of the violation, but had never reported it to Little League International.

"Unfortunately, no allegations against Jackie Robinson West Little League were made until well after the tournament ended, contributing to the difficulty of resolving these many complex issues," Keener said. "As an organization, Little League has faced issues similar to this in the past, and we felt that we must take the appropriate action set by that precedent."

Jackie Robinson West isn't the first team to have its Little League title stripped. In 1992, Little League baseball took away the title from Zamboanga, Philippines, and handed it to Long Beach, California, after Zamboanga used several players that lived outside its district or were overage. In 2001, a team from the Bronx that finished third was forced to forfeit its games after pitcher Danny Almonte was revealed to be overage.

"This is not an issue that is rampant among Little League programs. This is an isolated case," Keenan told ESPN. "We've only had to take this type of action 3 times in our program's 75-year history."


Good. What piles of shit these "adults" are for doing this. I feel horrific for the kids who are innocent in this debacle.

I coach select/traveling youth baseball and basketball and I can't imagine trying to pull this junk off. Just stupid, selfish and arrogant.
 

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I feel bad for the kids. They worked their butts off & are being penalized for decisions the adults made. Tough life lesson for the kids though (what not to do when they're adults).
 

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the kids knew what was going on. They basically took took from other districts that had already lost to them and poached them over. All the kids knew and were put into this horrible postition by these people.

They are basically telling these kids its ok to cheat if you get away with it. All the people involved should lose their jobs.
 

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Actually, I feel the worst for Mountain Ridge from Las Vegas who Jackie Robinson beat.
Sure they now get the title, but they did NOT get to partake in all the events and things that the JR team did as "champs".

The JR kids will always have the experiences, and probably don't TRULY care about the actual trophy all that much. Whereas Mountain Ridge basically gets none of the bonuses -- completely screwed/
 

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the kids knew what was going on. They basically took took from other districts that had already lost to them and poached them over. All the kids knew and were put into this horrible postition by these people.

They are basically telling these kids its ok to cheat if you get away with it. All the people involved should lose their jobs.

That is a good point. The kids probably had SOME clue as to why they were allowed to play with this and that other kid. 12 year old kids at this type of level (the same age that I'm currently coaching) know what is what and what is going on with their team and organization.

Funny thing is, these LL kids aren't even the best of the best. There are traveling teams (non zip-code restricted) that would smoke these LLWS teams.
 

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Loser adults living vicariously through their kids.

And its gotten worse each year. In the 80's they yelled at their kids, in the 90's they yelled at the coaches, in 2000 they yelled at the district, now they sue everybody they can find. Kids cant afford to lose a game. Their parents would drain the city and state funds.
 

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In a sport that increasingly struggles to attract African-Americans, the team representing Chicago's South Side emerged as a force, beating Las Vegas 7-5 in the U.S. title game.

I'm not quite sure what is the point of bringing race up in this sentence...

Is the Chicago team 100% black? And if so, who cares and why does it matter?
 

GagHalfrunt

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People cheating in Little League? Say it isn't so.

Dirty dealings with districts in Chicago? Impossible.
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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Dang man, these poor kids in Vegas who got robbed of a national championship by cheaters...can't even get a front page story in Vegas today because Tarkanian died last night.
 

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I'm not quite sure what is the point of bringing race up in this sentence...

Is the Chicago team 100% black? And if so, who cares and why does it matter?

While I generally agree that their race shouldn't matter, it was a story due to the fact that there has been a significant decline in African Americans' participation in baseball at all levels. So having the US Championship team predominately (all?) black was a little sales pitch for other kids to start playing.

Think of it like when Tiger Woods starting winning PGA events and golf started to pick up in black communities. That was the hope of what to happen with these kids -- and likely did to some extent.

Why it matters what color people play what sport... I have no idea.
 

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Dang man, these poor kids in Vegas who got robbed of a national championship by cheaters...can't even get a front page story in Vegas today because Tarkanian died last night.

Ouch didn't think of that. These LV kids keep getting screwed!

RIP Shark.
 

Humpy

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I'm not quite sure what is the point of bringing race up in this sentence...

Is the Chicago team 100% black? And if so, who cares and why does it matter?

Ive read a few quotes from parents of team members suggesting that they are being penalized because it was an all black team... and how what has happened is not fair. :)
 

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Dang man, these poor kids in Vegas who got robbed of a national championship by cheaters...can't even get a front page story in Vegas today because Tarkanian died last night.

Holy crap, Tark died? Man, first Dean Smith and now Tark.

And that Evergreen Park coach is one rat mother f*cker.
 
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