List successful feminine (personality not just looks) women

[dullard]

I realize that it is impossible to narrow down a definition of anything that is difinitively feminine or masculine. However, using the stereotypical definitions (sensitive, sympathetic, receptive, gentle, etc), can you name feminine women who have been successful in the business world?

 

[homercles337]

Leona Helmsley

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

no...i think most perple would see being a buisness"man" as being unfeminine

 

[maximus maximus]

Nm

 

[ForumMaster]

how about that woman who just became the head of Pepsi? she's also native american if i remember correctly.

 

[maximus maximus]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
how about that woman who just became the head of Pepsi? she's also native american if i remember correctly.

Indra Nooyi.. she is Indian FYI.

 

[PingSpike]

Martha Stewart

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
no...i think most perple would see being a buisness"man" as being unfeminine

This stems from a discussion I had with my GF last night. She is an engineer and was saying that she wishes she was far less feminine because no person with any feminine traits could ever make it anywhere in business. Of course this saddens me because I like a feminine GF.

It got me thinking, usually in business you need to be agressive and ruthless. But are success and femininity mutually exclusive? I have to say no. It may hinder many people, but there has to be a benefit for those positive feminine features as well.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Martha Stewart

Martha is one of the few successful business women I could think of off of the top of my head. But would most people think of her as feminine? She seems pretty cold, harsh, ruthless, agressive, etc. Those aren't the stereotypical feminine traits. Sure, she looks pretty, but is that enough to call her feminine? I just don't know enough about Ms. Stewart I guess.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Ann Coulter?




*dies laughing*

 

[NFS4]

Oprah

End of thread

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Martha Stewart

Martha is one of the few successful business women I could think of off of the top of my head. But would most people think of her as feminine? She seems pretty cold, harsh, ruthless, agressive, etc. Those aren't the stereotypical feminine traits. Sure, she looks pretty, but is that enough to call her feminine? I just don't know enough about Ms. Stewart I guess.

I think her persona is that of a feminine woman, and selling that persona has been a key to her success. But if you look at her business strategies, they seem like the standard cutthroat affair of most successful business people.

The traits we think of as feminine, being nurturing, gentle and caring...are weaknesses in business. Business is about competition. I can see how being nurturing to your own company can be as asset, but it is the drive to destroy your competition that reaps the most rewards.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Ann Coulter?




*dies laughing*

She is neither feminine nor a woman so she doesn't belong on this list.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Ann Coulter?




*dies laughing*

She is neither feminine nor a woman so she doesn't belong on this list.

Ann Coulter is the closest living relative of man-bear-pig

 

[MisterJackson]

Jessica simpson should get a nod...

 

[maximus maximus]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Jessica simpson should get a Rod...

Corrected..

 

[forfor]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Ann Coulter?




*dies laughing*

lmao.

to the op, you won't find many. especially in the financial industry. out of 100+ first year analysts i have met so far, none of them were women. i also cannot think of any women that would voluntarily go through what we go though.

 

[Preyhunter]

Mary Kay

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: forfor
to the op, you won't find many. especially in the financial industry. out of 100+ first year analysts i have met so far, none of them were women. i also cannot think of any women that would voluntarily go through what we go though.

You've met no females, no feminine females and no masculine females. Thus, is emulating masculinity the only key to success for women? Or, instead, is the key to sucess selling your soul to your workplace?

 

[zendari]

Many women executives and such make a lot of comments about gender being irrelevant and mixing both masculine and feminine qualities.

So while I don't think women downplay that side, they don't emphasize it either.

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: forfor
to the op, you won't find many. especially in the financial industry. out of 100+ first year analysts i have met so far, none of them were women. i also cannot think of any women that would voluntarily go through what we go though.

You've met no females, no feminine females and no masculine females. Thus, is emulating masculinity the only key to success for women? Or, instead, is the key to sucess selling your soul to your workplace?

The latter, IMO. I've read a couple articles about this, and one of the most discussed things is "personal" vs "professional" goals.

 

[dullard]

Oprah and Mary Kay seem like good examples so far. Unless anyone can say that deep down they don't have feminine characteristics when it comes to their business style.

Keep them coming.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: zendari
Many women executives and such make a lot of comments about gender being irrelevant and mixing both masculine and feminine qualities.

I'd have to say that is what I'd consider the ideal leader. Someone who is strong and agressive when it comes to their opponents yet caring and compassionate when it comes to their own employees (yet still firm if an employee gets out of line).

 

[Electric Amish]

Meg Whitman - President and CEO of Ebay

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: dullard
Oprah and Mary Kay seem like good examples so far. Unless anyone can say that deep down they don't have feminine characteristics when it comes to their business style.

Keep them coming.

Many, many models, playgirls, porn actresses, etc are *far* from stupid and manage their own careers as successful businesses.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Meg Whitman - President and CEO of Ebay

Originally posted by: maximus maximus
Indra Nooyi.. she is Indian FYI.

I'll have to look those two up, because I don't know a thing about them.

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Many, many models, playgirls, porn actresses, etc are *far* from stupid and manage their own careers as successful businesses.

But which of those successful ones manage it in a traditional feminine way?