List of things Bush has done wrong

[spittledip]

I was curious about what Bush has done wrong other than Iraq war (which is big enough). This is not to say that I can't think of any other wrong; I don't care for Bush much and I guess I want help to put my finger on it.. or to see if there is another reason aside from the war that has made me dislike him. This is not a place to defend Bush, so please refrain from arguing. If someone wants to defend him, my suggestion is to make a thread called, "List of things Bush has done Right." No need for any jokes about the above suggestion. And this list cannot include anything about ideologies or stances- it has to be actual things he has done or put into place.

 

[zinfamous]

problem is, people have their own interpretations of whether his policies are right or wrong.

For instance, economists cite his tax cuts and ideas concerning privatized social security as ass-backwards and represent a very weak understanding of economics with potentially dangerous implications concerning the future stability of our economoy.

Of course, Bush and his supporters say just the opposite, yet with no legitimacy to back it up.

Impossible for this thread not to turn into a bitch-fest.

EDITED: in my idiocy, I typed "welfare," when I meant "social security." I don't think Bush can pronounce "welfare" any way
...maybe "werfar" --sounds like "warfare"...hehe, let's get them evildoers!

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: spittledip
I was curious about what Bush has done wrong other than Iraq war (which is big enough). This is not to say that I can't think of any other wrong; I don't care for Bush much and I guess I want help to put my finger on it.. or to see if there is another reason aside from the war that has made me dislike him. This is not a place to defend Bush, so please refrain from arguing. If someone wants to defend him, my suggestion is to make a thread called, "List of things Bush has done Right." No need for any jokes about the above suggestion. And this list cannot include anything about ideologies or stances- it has to be actual things he has done or put into place.

Hmm

#1 Border security bad awful. Anything to do with Mexico he has been dead wrong on. a small border fence with many holes does not function as a fence just an obstacle.
#1A Spending liberal
#2 Rumsfeld nuff said
I'll leave it at that even though there are many more.

This from an old school conservative.

 

[dullard]

I won't try to get into specifics, but these are the things that I think are the worst:

1) Deficit spending in times of GOOD economy. Yes, maybe the tax cuts helped the economy. But once we were on our feet, we should have been getting a good surplus so that we can cut taxes (defit spend) in the next recession (or prevent the next recession). Save up in the good times so you have something left in the bad times.

2) Wear thin our military (personnel, supplies, $$$, etc) in minor affairs so that we cannot respond to a major affair.

3) Rescinding his oft-repeated campaign promise not to be a nation builder.

4) Destroying the trust of other countries and creating hate for America (from unilateral trashing of missle treaties, to sidestepping the UN, etc). Who knows how many more Bin Ladens are being created by these policies.

5) An overall I'm the Decider attitude. How many US and international laws has this administration outright broken or attempted to find loopholes in? How many instances are there where he tries to keep his operations in secret to hide these illegal or grey law actions? We are almost a democracy - not a dictatorship.

Bush has done good things, but they are few and far between and often short-sighted. For example, the tax cut was quite timely. But it served its purpose and now is harming us. I support the withdrawl of troups from Germany, Japan, etc where we aren't needed and aren't wanted. He actually has passed some good environmental laws (though this was after ignoring important laws like our drinking water quality).

 

[techs]

It would take far less time to list the things he has done right.

 

[Ryan]

Bush's quest to infuse his morality, and the percieved morality of the majority, into our government really ticks me off.

 

[Kwaipie]

Katrina response, "heck of a job, Brownie"
Paying off druglords in Afghanistan for peace.
Karl Rove
attempted appointment of Harriet Miers
Port security virtually unchanged since September 11th
Not allowing the generals on the ground to make military decisions. Politicizing Iraq
No Child Left Behind - unfunded mandate
Not vetoing obvious pork, not even threatening to veto.
Signing statements.

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: Ryan
Bush's quest to infuse his morality, and the percieved morality of the majority, into our government really ticks me off.

After Clinton's define the word "the" and bold face lies about Monica. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Err... Cigars are for smoking Mr. President. I think he was trying to get back some respect for the office. Laugh for sure but I think that was the motivation.

Please don't say Bush Lied and start on that rant even to this day everyone points to general knowledge and no real facts unlike Clinton's Monica fiasco. Or this thread will go down the wrong direction.

 

[Aimster]

He never admits he is wrong.
He invaded a country for all the wrong reasons.
That right there is impeachment, but then Dick would be President. Even worse!

The invading of the country has lead to a number of other problems.
U.S reputation tarnished, U.S spending too much money, U.S military is stretched too thin, etc.

All that money spent on Iraq could have done wonders for the U.S.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
problem is, people have their own interpretations of whether his policies are right or wrong.

For instance, economists cite his tax cuts and ideas concerning privatized welfare as ass-backwards and represent a very weak understanding of economics with potentially dangerous implications concerning the future stability of our economoy.

Of course, Bush and his supporters say just the opposite, yet with no legitimacy to back it up.

Impossible for this thread not to turn into a bitch-fest.

For instance, economists cite his tax cuts and ideas concerning privatized welfare as ass-backwards and represent a very weak understanding of economics with potentially dangerous implications concerning the future stability of our economoy.

Of course, Those who are against Bush and his supporters say his tax cuts and ideas concerning privatized welfare are ass backwards, yet with no legitimacy to back it up.

So go figure...

 

[Lemon law]

Lets just cut to the chase---what has GWB&co. done right?---and other than Rove being a masterful salesman and fooling just enough people into voting for a total turkey---I can't think of one single thing
or new good idea GWB&co has done that I really approve of----nothing---NOTHING AT ALL---really sad.

 

[tomywishbone]

I'll start with an easy one:

1- The systematic rape and absolute destruction of the entire Country of Iraq.

The next 100 are just as easy...

 

[Jaskalas]

In no particular order:

1: Ashcroft
2: Rumsfield
3: Patriot Act
4: Border Insecurity
5: Lack of transparency
6: Lack of communication
7: North Korea
8: Iraq
9: Iran
10: Gonzales
11: Gitmo
12: Spending

That pretty much sum up his f?ups? Could be more, that?s just off the top of my head.

 

[Phokus]

I'm going to mark this post for Friday because it's going to take me a whole weekend to list all the ways bush has screwed up.

 

[GoPackGo]

He has not given me millions of dollars so I don't have to work.

Bad Bush!

 

[QuantumPion]

Bush's "new tone" of not bring previous administration's scandals to justice, not calling political opposition on their obvious BS, and sitting back and taking the bold-face lies deluged on him over the last 8 years.

 

[BDawg]

I don't agree with him most of the time, but he just gave a great and perfectly appropriate speech at Va Tech.

 

[OrByte]

Patriot Act

Signing Statements

Gitmo

Trying to get Harriet Meirs into the Supreme Court (That was just awful)

Any one of his appointments to high level offices.

And generally all the lying and smoke/mirrors...this administration has waaayy too many secrets.

 

[Stiganator]

Spending TRILLIONS on a war that has absolutely no benefits for the 99.9999% of the United States. Notice that most other countries in the world spend fractions of what we spend on defense. It is basically impossible for 1st world countries to be invaded, if that did happen we have enough tactical nukes to take care of business. Cut the spending, we need at most 300,000 active troops across the board. Leave 25-50 Billion for defense, the other 400 should be allocated as to actually benefit tax payers, education, health, transportation, and research. I personally think there should be a cap on salaries for the House, Senate, and all political positions. lets say 60,000-100,000, you may not have ties to any corporate entity that is trying to pass legislation, etc. Then we'll get people in positions who actually care about this country. Also, increase efficiency in the government in general. It is a wasteful system, also do not pay senators or presidents their salaries for life, unless they are being hired as consultants or some other position. That is a ridiculous waste of money.

 

[nageov3t]

I voted for Bush in '00... after 9/11, the American people came together and were united, and gave President Bush one of the biggest mandates in history. and he took our trust and spirit of patriotism and used it for some of the most partisan politicking in recent memory.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Stiganator
Spending TRILLIONS on a war that has absolutely no benefits for the 99.9999% of the United States.

When does 4% ($100 billion/year) of the budget turn into trillions? When you want to completely exaggerate and believe lies.

 

[First]

It would be easier to just list the things he did right, as you can just cite "everything else" as the things he has failed at.

 

[Stiganator]

look at the the budget, 429 Billion, 400 Billion *6=TRILLIONS

Actually the 2008 budget is 637 Billion.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Stiganator
look at the the budget, 429 Billion, 400 Billion *6=TRILLIONS

I say again, exaggeration and lies.

The Department of Defense's budget is what you're citing. You understand that only 25% of that is Iraq AND Afghanistan? Also, it's been four years in Iraq not six years.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Stiganator
look at the the budget, 429 Billion, 400 Billion *6=TRILLIONS

Actually the 2008 budget is 637 Billion.

So you're counting the entire military budget as spending toward the war? That doesn't make any sense. Sure we've spent way too much on this sh!tty war but it isn't trillions.