Liquorix kernel questions.

[RyanGreener]

Hi everyone. I'm thinking about installing the Liquorix kernel onto my laptop using Ubuntu 10.10. It's been done with laptops before, and it's been done in Ubuntu 10.10 before even though it is said to be only for Debian. (I am aware that Ubuntu is derived from Debian). I hear the Liquorix kernel is constantly updated, so what I'm wondering is the following: How do I make it so that Ubuntu automatically updates it whenever a new update is out? If I edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and add it there, will it become one of the things that is regularly updated? Also, if I install another kernel, will it automatically show up as an option at the start? When I installed Ubuntu 10.10, it never booted up and gave me the option to pick the kernel, but I'm just assuming because it's a "static" kernel that hasn't changed for awhile.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Nothinman]

What's so special about the Liquorix kernel? I'd suggest sticking with what Ubuntu ships unless you have a very good reason to do otherwise.

 

[weovpac]

Liquorix Kernel
Liquorix is a distro kernel replacement built using the best configuration and kernel sources for desktop, multimedia, and gaming workloads.

http://liquorix.net/

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=45151

Unless you really need a different kernel, stick with the stock kernels that come from your distro.

 

[RyanGreener]

I've heard it provides decent performance boosts/better hardware support for people, and it's updated often. Plus, I don't really have much to do with my laptop so I figured I'd try it

 

[RyanGreener]

Well, I installed it. Added it to the software sources list and installed the keyring, then installed it through synaptic package manager. So far, everything works. Maybe I'll notice a performance difference, maybe I won't.

 

[VinDSL]

Liquorix Kernel
Liquorix is a distro kernel replacement built using the best configuration and kernel sources for desktop, multimedia, and gaming workloads.

http://liquorix.net/

Bwahahahaha! A challenge!

Those stripes prohibit narrow minded, judgmental users from grabbing my kernel... sort of like an innocuous topsy turvy scare crow flopping around in the wind.

I'm going to install this in Ubu 10.04 (my backup system) and see if it flies or dies.

I don't want to experiment with 10.10, until I'm sure it works...

 

[Nothinman]

Well, I installed it. Added it to the software sources list and installed the keyring, then installed it through synaptic package manager. So far, everything works. Maybe I'll notice a performance difference, maybe I won't.

As long as that dude's package is fine you shouldn't have any problems. The only thing is that every new kernel will be added along side the others so you'll need to prune them occasionally.

 

[VinDSL]

As long as that dude's package is fine you shouldn't have any problems.[...]

I *think* it might be better than fine - on principle.

The only reason I upgrade Ubu (so often) is because I want to use the latest kernel.

I wish Ubu had a rolling release, but they don't...

Ubu 10.10 is stuck at 2.6.35, and I'm already getting sweaty palms for 2.6.37.

Maybe, this is the answer...

 

[Nothinman]

I *think* it might be better than fine - on principle.

The only reason I upgrade Ubu (so often) is because I want to use the latest kernel.

I wish Ubu had a rolling release, but they don't...

Ubu 10.10 is stuck at 2.6.35, and I'm already getting sweaty palms for 2.6.37.

Maybe, this is the answer...

You know this guy or his work from somewhere enough to trust him? And what's in 2.6.37 that you need to play with so badly? I used to follow lkml regularly so I upgraded my kernel fairly regularly but 99% of the time after the reboot I wondered what the big deal was and moved on. Pretty much the only time a new kernel made a real impression was when there was a problem with it.

 

[RyanGreener]

Well, I've got the kernel and it's in my software sources list. Does this mean that everytime there is a new kernel that it'll show up in the update manager? Or will I have to manually look for it? Either way, I don't mind.

And yes, I'm aware that I'm gonna have to manually delete the kernels as things keep going on, but I've run out of fun things to try on my laptop with Ubuntu 10.10, so I figured I'd try this kernel. Seems stable so far, with everything working.

 

[RyanGreener]

.I don't want to experiment with 10.10, until I'm sure it works...

I'm using 10.10, and it's flawless so far, although time will tell if stuff goes wrong.

 

[Nothinman]

Well, I've got the kernel and it's in my software sources list. Does this mean that everytime there is a new kernel that it'll show up in the update manager? Or will I have to manually look for it? Either way, I don't mind.

And yes, I'm aware that I'm gonna have to manually delete the kernels as things keep going on, but I've run out of fun things to try on my laptop with Ubuntu 10.10, so I figured I'd try this kernel. Seems stable so far, with everything working.

It should show up as a new package as long as he's updating the version numbers properly. Although I'm not sure if update manager will install it automatically or not, I would guess not though.

 

[VinDSL]

Interesting!

I ran across a PAE version: AV Linux...new and improved with Liquorix flavour!

I don't need PAE for my desktop box (1GB), but it would be nice for my lappy (4GB).

As far as trusting this guy...

No, I don't trust anyone. I don't even trust myself. I'm constantly double-checking my own work, et cetera, but...

Doing a little Google'ing, SID users seem to love Liquorix. How bad can it be?!?!?

 

[Nothinman]

Interesting!

I ran across a PAE version: AV Linux...new and improved with Liquorix flavour!

I don't need PAE for my desktop box (1GB), but it would be nice for my lappy (4GB).

As far as trusting this guy...

No, I don't trust anyone. I don't even trust myself. I'm constantly double-checking my own work, et cetera, but...

Doing a little Google'ing, SID users seem to love Liquorix. How bad can it be?!?!?

Why wouldn't you just skip PAE and use a 64-bit kernel?

 

[RyanGreener]

It should show up as a new package as long as he's updating the version numbers properly. Although I'm not sure if update manager will install it automatically or not, I would guess not though.

Well at least I won't have to worry about constantly installing/deleting kernels. Thanks!

 

[weovpac]

I have being thinking of trying the Liquorix Kernels for a while now. And this post prompted me to look into this some more. Most think that offers some improvement over the stock Debian kernel.

I run Testing and installed 2.6.36-3.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64. So far things feel a bit snappier than before and also boot's faster. The nvidia and virtualbox-ose modules that I need, can be created just fine using module-assistant. Time will tell if it is stable in the long run. If I have any issues, I will report back.

Thanks to the OP for bringing this up

 

[Khyron320]

Does this kernel pop? Because the Linux kernel has sadly disappointed me. My butter.sh script will never get to run.

 

[VinDSL]

I'm using 10.10, and it's flawless so far, although time will tell if stuff goes wrong.

So far, so good...

 

[VinDSL]

Why wouldn't you just skip PAE and use a 64-bit kernel?

I'm running a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 Extreme Edition S478 in this box.

It's a great chip (still sells for $650-ish), but it lacks a 64-bit instruction set. :\

 

[VinDSL]

LoL!

You know... It's probably my imagination, but...

I would swear the audio sounds better using Linux 2.6.36-2.dmz.7-liquorix-686

Hrm...

 

[Crusty]

I'm running a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 Extreme Edition S478 in this box.

It's a great chip (still sells for $650-ish), but it lacks a 64-bit instruction set. :\

Lol what? I don't think I would pay $6.50 for one of those chips. I would be extremely surprised to see one of those sold for that price.

 

[weovpac]

LoL!

You know... It's probably my imagination, but...

I would swear the audio sounds better using Linux 2.6.36-2.dmz.7-liquorix-686

Hrm...

That's one of the benefits, IIRC. But it might be just your mind playing tricks on you

 

[VinDSL]

Lol what? I don't think I would pay $6.50 for one of those chips. I would be extremely surprised to see one of those sold for that price.

Surprised, are we?!?!?

Here's one for $970: http://www.serverpartswarehouse.com...dition-340GHz-800MHz-FSB-SocNEW-P1328433.aspx

Another new one $658: http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemd...3331&rid=fd_10

Used/pull $332: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?c=201&s=1951&ID=43152&P=F

Ebay $250: http://compare.ebay.com/like/360333...fbf512c&itemid=360333780178&ff4=263602_304662

Regular ol' Intel P4 S478s are going for $5-15. Maybe that's what you're thinking about...

I've never seen an Intel SL7CH for less than $100.

 

[VinDSL]

That's one of the benefits, IIRC. But it might be just your mind playing tricks on you

I noticed it's got the "200 line patch", so called, in it. That's cool!

If anyone is interested, here's how I installed it in Ubu 10.10

Ubuntu 10.10

sudo echo "deb http://liquorix.net/debian sid main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install '^liquorix-([^-]+-)?keyring.?'
sudo apt-get install '.*liquorix'
reboot

I did the same thing on Ubu 10.04, but had to manually install one of the 10.10 library (dependency) files before it would let me install Liquorix et al.


Ubuntu 10.04

#manually install libncurses5 (>= 5.7+20100313) - Maverick 

sudo echo "deb http://liquorix.net/debian sid main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install '^liquorix-([^-]+-)?keyring.?'
sudo apt-get install '.*liquorix'
reboot

Linkage: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/libncurses5

 

[VinDSL]

Alrighty then...

Less than 24 hours, and I was greeted with a (Liquorix) update already!

All hail, Linux 2.6.36-3.dmz.2-liquorix-686

LoL! I read that this guy (the kernel maintainer) never sleeps.

I have a *feeling* that this is going to be an everyday thing, until I decide to close the gate...