Lion Woes

[sxr7171]

I can't believe nobody has posted a thread about this yet. Maybe it's been going fine for most of you but Lion hasn't been all that great to me.

I'm just going post the issues I've been having.

1. Access to SMB shares has become a real PITA. I noticed that it wouldn't give me access to my SMB/CIFS shared folders on my Nexentastor machine. This has been a major headache for me. I found a workaround in that you have to mount all the folders in MacOS and then it will not give you access to them. Then close the MacBook or turn the Wi-Fi off and back on and it will then give you access to your folders. Very weird.

2. This OS does not wake up like SL did. It sometimes takes a while to get a responsive mouse. Sometimes it freezes on waking.

3. It randomly can't access the internet despite having a connection to my router. A reboot fixes this.

4. Why is "Kernel Task" using 100% CPU sometimes? A restart fixes this.


Things that are better:

1. I never liked that 3 finger back and forward in Safari, it was very inconsistent for me. The new 2 finger sliding back and forward is a MAJOR step up IMHO. However I think it needs work. Despite the fact that it instantly goes back and forth, it still reloads the page in the background and there can be a lag to interact with the page you went back or forward to.

2. Resizing pages in Safari is iOS smooth.

3. Finally full screen support and auto hidden menu bar. Clever.

4. The new auto correct and form filling is great, but not perfect.

5. A couple of sensible name changes to make it easier for people coming from Windows. Wi-Fi is called Wi-Fi not Airport. System Profiler no longer sounds like a hacking tool since its renaming to System Information.

6. I think Safari is autosaving anything you type into a text box on any site. That and the fact that the OS can open windows you were using after a restart makes restarting almost painless.


I'm sure I'll find more plusses and minuses over time, but I get a feeling that the OS was a little rushed out. I'm sure that updates will fix these issues in time but for the time being if you are enjoying the nice trouble free mature SL experience and you can't afford to jeopardize that, then it may behoove you to wait for 10.7.2 or higher.


Anybody else having issues?

 

[JSt0rm]

i'm on 10.6.7 and I will stay there for a while. In fact I just upgraded to snow leopard last month. I was on 10.5.8 before that and 10.4.7 before that.

 

[fr]

I have the same problem with file sharing.

 

[TheStu]

File sharing seems to work between 7 and Lion.

Also, OP was this an upgrade or a clean install?

 

[Emulex]

the 100% bug on macbook pro its a process that starts with AG is a known bug fixed in 10.7.2 - you can kill the process and google how to stop it from starting. some citrix process. known bug. wait for 10.7.2

 

[sxr7171]

It was an upgrade using the App Store.

I think maybe I am expecting a little much. An upgrade install of Windows is something I would never do, because it just results in problems. While Mac OS is night and day less problematic, a clean install is probably a good idea.

 

[sxr7171]

the 100% bug on macbook pro its a process that starts with AG is a known bug fixed in 10.7.2 - you can kill the process and google how to stop it from starting. some citrix process. known bug. wait for 10.7.2

I wouldn't call it a showstopper or anything, just annoying. Restarts are quick on the Air anyway.

The SMB issue for me was showstopper until I found that workaround. All my data is on the Nexenta box. I have never gotten NFS to work between Nexenta and Mac OS.

 

[silverpig]

The save state thing can be kind of annoying sometimes. I've had a few occasions where I am using 3 excel files and when I am done I just hit the command-Q to quit excel. When I open another excel file, the new one and the 3 previous ones all open.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

A clean install probably would fix issues 2-4. As much as in place upgrades are a PITA sometimes, Apple doesn't seem to have as many problems as Microsoft with them.

 

[Kaido]

The first couple of point releases of all OSX operating systems are usually somewhat buggy and start to stabilize after that. My 10.6.8 machines are all rock-solid, but I didn't jump onboard Snow Leopard until 10.6.2 or 10.6.3 due to the issues. It looks like 10.7.2 is already on its way (meaning that 10.7.1 will probably be a small bugfix release).

So, yeah :\

 

[Kmax82]

The first couple of point releases of all OSX operating systems are usually somewhat buggy and start to stabilize after that. My 10.6.8 machines are all rock-solid, but I didn't jump onboard Snow Leopard until 10.6.2 or 10.6.3 due to the issues. It looks like 10.7.2 is already on its way (meaning that 10.7.1 will probably be a small bugfix release).

So, yeah :\

This. One of the major downsides of new OS X releases. Also couple that with the fact that most software devs aren't always on the ball with their updates, so that can take a little while as well. I usually update right away, but I'm impatient, and just deal with the quirks.

 

[amdhunter]

Damn. The first thing I noticed in Lion was that they finally fixed SMB sharing. I used to have to reboot my Windows box every time my MBP went to sleep. Now it works like a charm.

I didn't know you could auto-hide the title bar, going to investigate that tonight. Also, I haven't played too much with full screen apps, but from what I've seen so far, I don't like it.

Haven't had any issues with waking up, but I've noticed on 2 occasions my background will disappear and turn white when installing applications. Really annoying.

 

[runawayprisoner]

My biggest gripe with Lion is that it breaks Coolbook, and on top of that, it uses the GPU significantly more because now there are more animations, more gestures, and more eye candies.

And neither Mission Control nor Expose show minimized apps anymore.

 

[kubani1]

Granted, i've not done anything much with os x lion yet, i have yet to run across any problems, excel works great, aperture works great, file sharing has been problem free, Skype works great, the full screen apps are good and the trackpad gestures are really cool. and my network printers still work. that covers the things that i need my computer for, so this has been the most pain free upgrade i have ever done.

i upgraded to snow leopard and had some pretty big problems, so lion in my eyes has been excellent. and a hell of a lot better than my XP to vista upgrade, that was a nightmare.

 

[alkemyst]

Anyone with NAS, before you upgrade verify they have current drivers. That's been a big issue here in our office. Office Communicator was another, but they got the bugs worked out on that.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I had problems with my Time Machine backup initially, but this has corrected since I wiped my TM drive.

I am running a summer '09 C2D 13" MBP. The only issues I notice with Lion now are:

- I sometimes lose my wi-fi connection after waking and it won't join my network even manually - I have to restart.

- When I drag something from a Finder window into the trash can, the finder window resizes to a size larger than my desktop resolution, so the left and right edges of it are off the screen - I have to close Finder and reopen it to fix this.

- I get the "sparsebundle is in use" error in Time Machine MUCH more often than with Snow Leopard - I have to disconnect my TM drive in the Airport Utility and unplug and replug it in to get it working. This seems to happen once a day on average.

 

[aphex]

Debating if I want to take my hack up to Lion. 10.6.8 is just so stable and everything is working 100%, while some of the new features look nice, I just dunno if its worth the hassle.

 

[ViRGE]

Debating if I want to take my hack up to Lion. 10.6.8 is just so stable and everything is working 100%, while some of the new features look nice, I just dunno if its worth the hassle.

It's worth it, just for the experience.

 

[TheStu]

Debating if I want to take my hack up to Lion. 10.6.8 is just so stable and everything is working 100%, while some of the new features look nice, I just dunno if its worth the hassle.

Do you have a Magic Trackpad? If yes, then yea you probably want Lion. If not, then a lot of what there is would be missing for you.

 

[aphex]

Do you have a Magic Trackpad? If yes, then yea you probably want Lion. If not, then a lot of what there is would be missing for you.

I do. Hrmph, I wonder how much of a pain it would be to get this up to 10.7, specifically being able to use dual monitors with my 9500 GT.

I guess i could buy Lion, then try and install it on my extra HD just to see if it works.

 

[Zaap]

I've been running Lion on two of my Hackintoshes for several days now. Already I've done some major work in Final Cut 7, a side project in Motion 4, and of course the usual Photoshopping, web-surfing, email/letting writing, media playing, etc.

Thus far, I haven't yet run into any problems with Lion. My Linux NAS with SMB shares works as good or better as it ever did. I've had no issues connecting to my Windows boxes. No internet drops outs and such.

The only issue I've had was with FaceTime not working; when trying to sign on, I got an error that the server encountered a problem processing registration. Researching online, I found this has been a common issue in Lion, and the fix was bone simple. (Editing added content out of my etc/hosts file.)

I haven't really noticed much that's overly-compelling in Lion vs. Snow Leo. There's a bit more polish and eye-candy. I do like using Mission Control. I don't have a trackpad, but just using Control/arrow keys to access M.C. and scroll virtual desktops is pretty damn nifty. I like that the virtual desktops can have independent desktop pictures. That may seem merely cosmetic, but I always found it confusing with same desktop/different content. Now everything changes and it's clear at a glance which set of desktops one is currently using. (Dual monitors here.)

My system feels snappier with Lion. Since all PPC code is finally dumped, maybe that's part of the reason.

None of this is revolutionary, but so far I see no compelling reason to return to Snow Leo full time. (Keeping my 10.6.8 partition around though, just because...) I'll probably be getting a Magic Trackpad soon.

Any desktop Hack running Snow Leopard well should probably run Lion equally well. I recommend the Tonymac xMove method (plus required update to latest Chimera aka Chameleon).

Using that, it only took me about 20 minutes to install Lion right over Snow Leo on a backup partition. I also installed it to a blank partition and just moved over my working Extra folder from SL, and restored ownership/permissions.

Another thing: at first I couldn't download Lion from the app store on my Snow Leo Hackintoshes- it gave an error that Lion couldn't run on this computer. The fix was simply to run the latest Chimera installer and reboot. After that, I could purchase and download Lion no problem.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I've been running Lion on two of my Hackintoshes for several days now. Already I've done some major work in Final Cut 7, a side project in Motion 4, and of course the usual Photoshopping, web-surfing, email/letting writing, media playing, etc.

Thus far, I haven't yet run into any problems with Lion. My Linux NAS with SMB shares works as good or better as it ever did. I've had no issues connecting to my Windows boxes. No internet drops outs and such.

The only issue I've had was with FaceTime not working; when trying to sign on, I got an error that the server encountered a problem processing registration. Researching online, I found this has been a common issue in Lion, and the fix was bone simple. (Editing added content out of my etc/hosts file.)

I haven't really noticed much that's overly-compelling in Lion vs. Snow Leo. There's a bit more polish and eye-candy. I do like using Mission Control. I don't have a trackpad, but just using Control/arrow keys to access M.C. and scroll virtual desktops is pretty damn nifty. I like that the virtual desktops can have independent desktop pictures. That may seem merely cosmetic, but I always found it confusing with same desktop/different content. Now everything changes and it's clear at a glance which set of desktops one is currently using. (Dual monitors here.)

My system feels snappier with Lion. Since all PPC code is finally dumped, maybe that's part of the reason.

None of this is revolutionary, but so far I see no compelling reason to return to Snow Leo full time. (Keeping my 10.6.8 partition around though, just because...) I'll probably be getting a Magic Trackpad soon.

Any desktop Hack running Snow Leopard well should probably run Lion equally well. I recommend the Tonymac xMove method (plus required update to latest Chimera aka Chameleon).

Using that, it only took me about 20 minutes to install Lion right over Snow Leo on a backup partition. I also installed it to a blank partition and just moved over my working Extra folder from SL, and restored ownership/permissions.

Another thing: at first I couldn't download Lion from the app store on my Snow Leo Hackintoshes- it gave an error that Lion couldn't run on this computer. The fix was simply to run the latest Chimera installer and reboot. After that, I could purchase and download Lion no problem.

Which Linux NAS are you using? I want to know as my Windows Home Server is just a brick to Lion, now. I had seamless TM and I want it back.

 

[Tyranicus]

I do. Hrmph, I wonder how much of a pain it would be to get this up to 10.7, specifically being able to use dual monitors with my 9500 GT.

I guess i could buy Lion, then try and install it on my extra HD just to see if it works.

In general, all kexts you have for Snow Leopard will still work with Lion. Once you install it, copy over your /Extra folder from Snow Leopard and reinstall Chameleon. You should be golden at that point.

 

[Tyranicus]

The reason some people have SMB issues, and some people don't is that, due to licensing restrictions, Apple no longer uses Samba for their SMB support. They now use their own implementation. It works well, but it supports only SMB 2, and a lot of devices out there still use SMB 1.

 

[Kaido]

Another thing: at first I couldn't download Lion from the app store on my Snow Leo Hackintoshes- it gave an error that Lion couldn't run on this computer. The fix was simply to run the latest Chimera installer and reboot. After that, I could purchase and download Lion no problem.

Yup, the latest Chimera fixed the no-download issue for me as well.