if a lion fought a bear, which animal would win? just wonderin cuz my friend always says a bear would, but i personally think the lion would just kill the bear quick! end of question...
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Lion vs. Bear - which one would win in a fight?
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what kind of bear? A polar bear or a grizzly could put a hurting on a lion. 1 good swipe of the paw, and it could take a lion out. A lion's swipe ain't so shabby. As bloodthirsty as it seems, the Romans used to do this (in addition to putting ppl out there too), it would be interesting to watch a fight like that. Bloodsport, yes, but truly the only way to settle the debate 
How big of a bear. That bear in the HOLY SH!T thread? THE BEAR!!
I would think any fully grown bear would put the hurting on any lion.
I would think any fully grown bear would put the hurting on any lion.
hm... a bear would have more potential to win, I'd think. If you shaved both animals, it would give the lion a better chance; a grizzly or polar bear is gonna be harder to really draw blood thru its fur, while a lion is fairly cropped. A female lion's neck is less protected by a mane, as well. another thing is that bears aren't as intent on killing when they fight; they really only kill fish and insects right? when they attack other large creatures, its with the intent of protecting territory, food, or young... and the other animals death is a sufficient circumstance for doing so, tho not necessary (if the other animal flees to a far enough distance). while a lion is quite often intent on actually killing other large mammals. So while the bear's got a lot of oomph, the lion's considerable killing edge could be rather confusing to the bear. I guess the actual results of the fight would be determined on the basis of some of those factors.
I'm actually feeling a little ashamed/sick at myself for having given this so much thought; I once watched a video clip of two dogs vs. a bear on a chain. it was really a terrible thing to see. the bear was ferocious, but seemed rather confused by the fact that the dogs weren't being deterred (as would be the case in a natural setting) by the bear's superior strength. the dogs were, of course, trained to attack the bear and had no intention of giving up. the bear just kept grabbing one dog and burying it in a hug while biting in whereever it could, until the other dog bit the bear somewhere it actually hurt (or even noticed), and then the bear would drop the first dog and grab the other. the clip wasn't that long, and I didn't see how it turned out, or even which direction it was going, but it was odd and sickening to watch because you could really see just how unnatural it was for the bear to be fighting such a long, protracted battle to the death.
I'm actually feeling a little ashamed/sick at myself for having given this so much thought; I once watched a video clip of two dogs vs. a bear on a chain. it was really a terrible thing to see. the bear was ferocious, but seemed rather confused by the fact that the dogs weren't being deterred (as would be the case in a natural setting) by the bear's superior strength. the dogs were, of course, trained to attack the bear and had no intention of giving up. the bear just kept grabbing one dog and burying it in a hug while biting in whereever it could, until the other dog bit the bear somewhere it actually hurt (or even noticed), and then the bear would drop the first dog and grab the other. the clip wasn't that long, and I didn't see how it turned out, or even which direction it was going, but it was odd and sickening to watch because you could really see just how unnatural it was for the bear to be fighting such a long, protracted battle to the death.
<< well if it was a detroit liion the bear would be losing until the midpoint of the fight and then start to rip the lion apart >>
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The ancient Romans used to test this theory in their public displays.
Usually the bear (but it depended on the size of the animals, type of bear, age, etc.).
From Zoogoer
<< Some bears were anything but tame in the arena, however. Roman
emperors often sentenced serious criminals to fatal encounters with the
beasts in the Colosseum--an ancient "death sentence" swifter and more
savage than our own. The criminal met his fate in the context of an
elaborate play; instead of a happy ending, though, the main character of
the production--the convict--was mauled by the bear. Such gory
dramas were common at the program Emperor Titus arranged to
dedicate the Colosseum in A.D. 80. That lavish show, which even
included a naval battle in the flooded amphitheater, lasted 100 days.
Throughout the festivities more than 10,000 prisoners and 9,000
animals were slaughtered.
Revered for its ferocity, the lion was also extremely popular in
venationes and gladiatorial shows. While dictator, Caesar used a
staggering 400 lions (imported primarily from North Africa and Syria) in
the Circus, the foreignness of the animal lending his shows added
panache. Savage images of the lion were not exclusive to the arena,
however. Sculptures of lions devouring prey were often used on
sepulchers as symbols of the voraciousness of death. >>
From another link:
<< In the morning, spectators could see battles fought between wild beast. One might see bears, buffaloes, lion's elephants and rhinoceros,
all fighting against each other. After wounding each other for awhile the spectators would become bored so archers would shoot the
exhausted animals with arrows from the stands. By using these animals in such a way the Romans managed to wipe out thousands of
animals and either captured or drove away entire species. Now, the hippopotamuses were no longer seen in Egypt, lions disappeared from
Assyria and elephants no longer lived in northern Africa. >>
And for a definitive answer: THE ROMANS HAD POLAR BEARS.
Poor lions.
Usually the bear (but it depended on the size of the animals, type of bear, age, etc.).
From Zoogoer
<< Some bears were anything but tame in the arena, however. Roman
emperors often sentenced serious criminals to fatal encounters with the
beasts in the Colosseum--an ancient "death sentence" swifter and more
savage than our own. The criminal met his fate in the context of an
elaborate play; instead of a happy ending, though, the main character of
the production--the convict--was mauled by the bear. Such gory
dramas were common at the program Emperor Titus arranged to
dedicate the Colosseum in A.D. 80. That lavish show, which even
included a naval battle in the flooded amphitheater, lasted 100 days.
Throughout the festivities more than 10,000 prisoners and 9,000
animals were slaughtered.
Revered for its ferocity, the lion was also extremely popular in
venationes and gladiatorial shows. While dictator, Caesar used a
staggering 400 lions (imported primarily from North Africa and Syria) in
the Circus, the foreignness of the animal lending his shows added
panache. Savage images of the lion were not exclusive to the arena,
however. Sculptures of lions devouring prey were often used on
sepulchers as symbols of the voraciousness of death. >>
From another link:
<< In the morning, spectators could see battles fought between wild beast. One might see bears, buffaloes, lion's elephants and rhinoceros,
all fighting against each other. After wounding each other for awhile the spectators would become bored so archers would shoot the
exhausted animals with arrows from the stands. By using these animals in such a way the Romans managed to wipe out thousands of
animals and either captured or drove away entire species. Now, the hippopotamuses were no longer seen in Egypt, lions disappeared from
Assyria and elephants no longer lived in northern Africa. >>
And for a definitive answer: THE ROMANS HAD POLAR BEARS.
Poor lions.
Size, strength and weight:
Lion: 600 pounds
Tigers: 1,000 pounds
grizzly Bears: 2,000 pounds
Elephants: 10,000 pounds
I doubt a Lion would attack a Bear specially a grizzly bear.
Lion: 600 pounds
Tigers: 1,000 pounds
grizzly Bears: 2,000 pounds
Elephants: 10,000 pounds
I doubt a Lion would attack a Bear specially a grizzly bear.
Lions hunt in packs mainly for that reason. It's sad that they can kill so many animals. A rhino or a hippo or an elephant would be the sure winner though.
heh, Rhinos have no natural enemies (adult ones that is). I remember a documentary where a single Rhino walked through 3-4 lions, and they just got out of its way.
Lion vs Bear- i doubt there would be a winner, the survivinganimal would probably be severely mainmed
Lion vs Bear- i doubt there would be a winner, the survivinganimal would probably be severely mainmed
Hoh, oldest of threads, looks to be in luck eh?
Replying to a trensending old post; if a Pride can take out a elephant, a rhino is on the menu as well, its not how most people think when hunting big game, its not a wham bam thank you man 5 minute fight and its over.. some times it takes hours to days to bring them down, never-the less lions are the only predator to accomplish the feat (Rutinely), wild dogs, wolves and hyenas all out number lions almost 4 to one, yet still you never hear about them killing Rhinos, Hippos, or elephants; tigers and bears have co-existed with heavy herbivores before, some still do, and yet in no census has there ever been well documented of any other predator actually killing one of the big 4's except lions, historicaly or modern documetational wise via video or well written testimonials with credability.
But getting back to the topic, the title dosent specify which genus or speices/sub-speices...so by over all take, (male) lions should take out almost every bear excluding brown bears and polar bears with relative ease, being that the bear speices has a wide variety if we compare there numbers, ratio and percentages wise, then lions would win hands down 9/10 fights...basicaly in almost every match up.
But if we are to be specific, brown bears or polar bears, then it gets narrowed down to a 50/50.
Since the tiger looks to have movin in to second place in terms facing the big bears, I think lions can actualy take the win; in a fair one on one fight, in the wild its just silly, bears would get out numbered and dis-asembled by the full or even average sized coalition or pride. The Grizzly would probably be the african lions biggest challange on average bouts, size will play a role, but its not significant if we go by there averages, even if the bear selected was a massive 1,000 pounder...it will mean little to nothing since lions have killed animals that dwarf bears by 2-6 times there sizes in weight, power and mass.
The famous bear power rep, is and always be in full swing, and to a degree I respect his status and know on paper people have always gaven there opinion that the bear would hands down win, but by the records I have seen so far, I can honestly give the win to the lion on average bouts of a 6/10 win, if I had to truley pick a side, but I think its fair to call it a 50/50 since both have records of winning and stale mating the other...they both have there strengths but the lion has more feats, attributes and statistics in his favor; going for him pulling off the win.
Hypotheticaly speaking, I think this match up; if some how we could have observed it in the wild on there own terms as 1 on 1 male vs male in there prime, both willing to go to the death, it would be the most epic fight ever... obviously being the grizzly bear dosent fear any predator on land because of his size he wont back down from a mere single lion slightly smaller than himself, but the lion doesent give a shit either being he has for mellinias been the only predator to have taken out the lord of the Jungle; the Elephant...so seeing two worlds such as these collide both flaring there beastliness and sheer terror, would be up there in the most craziest shit to see...
Ever.
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I read an article about this very thing. I can't find it anymore but the bear destroyed the lions.
Basically, back in colonial days, they would do animal prize fighting in North America. They had grizzly bears and wanted to see what could beat them. So they went to great expense to ship over the best bulls from Spain and took bets. The bear would just club the bull in the shoulder with its paw and the bull would be toast.
Bears have a very high bone density which means their paws are essentially clubs. They shattered the shoulders of the bulls and that was the end of that.
After losing so much money on the bulls, the game runners then brought over lions. It was the same story. The lion would charge, the bear would club it once, and that was it.
I also recently saw a documentary on lions and they can actually take several hours to kill each other. Apparently they can crush each others' pelvis quite quickly, and after that, it just takes a long time of wrestling around on the ground like in MMA before one dies.
tl;dr: The bear owns the lion
Basically, back in colonial days, they would do animal prize fighting in North America. They had grizzly bears and wanted to see what could beat them. So they went to great expense to ship over the best bulls from Spain and took bets. The bear would just club the bull in the shoulder with its paw and the bull would be toast.
Bears have a very high bone density which means their paws are essentially clubs. They shattered the shoulders of the bulls and that was the end of that.
After losing so much money on the bulls, the game runners then brought over lions. It was the same story. The lion would charge, the bear would club it once, and that was it.
I also recently saw a documentary on lions and they can actually take several hours to kill each other. Apparently they can crush each others' pelvis quite quickly, and after that, it just takes a long time of wrestling around on the ground like in MMA before one dies.
tl;dr: The bear owns the lion
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