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Linux Mandrake Partition/package questions

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BarnyardMonkey

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I decided to give Linux a shot finally sicne i had an extra system around to try it on.

got it all working,but got a few questions.

i just tried it on an Old 1.6g HD till my other Drive gets here for testing purposes.
but not sure if my parttion tables are setup correctly for best performance.everything seems quite laggy while in Linux.

i set it up as the following:

Partition "/" was set to around 1.2g:

Swap was set to around 250/300Mb

Home i guess was set to what was left on HD.never was prompt to set that one.


Was curious what sizes per each partition would be best.
i'm totally new to Linux.

but Linux seems quite sluggish from what i thought it would be.


Specs:
Cel 600 FCPGA
128Mb Ram
1.6g IDE HD - 6.5g soon as HD gets here
Linux Mandrake 8.1


Also,was wanting to know the basic package to choose on setup.
it will be only used for mainly Internet,Storage,Web/Mail Server.

my install was around 750Mb first time.would like to cut that way down if possible.
took forever to install.

and finally,is there a way to disable the bootup from checking [OK] on everything before i get to the desktop?


Thanks for any help.



Shawn.
 
Home i guess was set to what was left on HD.never was prompt to set that one.

Home is probably on the same partition as /. Type 'df -h' and see what all partitions are listed.

Was curious what sizes per each partition would be best.

Most of it is a matter of preferance. And depending on what the server is used for and where data will be stored determines what's seperate partitions. The only thing you really want to avoid is filling up the / partition.

but Linux seems quite sluggish from what i thought it would be.

It's probably the memory, sad to say but even with 128M KDE and Gnome can be sluggish because they're so huge. If you want more speed try running a lighter Window manager like WindowMaker or BlackBox.

Also,was wanting to know the basic package to choose on setup.
it will be only used for mainly Internet,Storage,Web/Mail Server.

I wouldn't really use Mandrake as a server, it's not a bad distro but it's just not designed with that in mind. Since you're new to Linux I would suggest RedHat, the setup is pretty easy and it works pretty well. If you really want to learn Linux in and out install Slackware or Debian (my preferance).

And finally,is there a way to disable the bootup from checking [OK] on everything before i get to the desktop?

It's not checking everything, that's it actually starting them.



 
Nothinman,thanks for answering all them questions buddy.

Would RedHat give me a similiar GUI like win9x or KDE/Gnome?
i'm use to these types of desktop work spaces.would like to stay with it if possible.

and what RedHat version would you recommend?if theres more then one.

And also,when you say not to make my "/" to large,i can't use it for like a C: drive on a windows system?
would like to use maybe 2g for my OS partition,and the other 4g for my Files,Web/Mail Server.

similiar to a windows system. C: for Windows/D: for Storage.


Thanks for the help so far.



Shawn.
 
Would RedHat give me a similiar GUI like win9x or KDE/Gnome?
i'm use to these types of desktop work spaces.would like to stay with it if possible.

Yes, the only real difference would be some of the system config tools. Shouldn't be anything too major though.
The main performance problem is going to be KDE and Gnome though, they're huge systems and if you're running a server on the same box you probably don't want them running. That's why I suggested WindowMaker or Blackbox, they use a lot less memory.

And also,when you say not to make my "/" to large,i can't use it for like a C: drive on a windows system?

I just meant don't fill it up, if it runs out of free space bad things happen.

would like to use maybe 2g for my OS partition,and the other 4g for my Files,Web/Mail Server.
similiar to a windows system. C: for Windows/D: for Storage.

That would be fine. But if you keep comparing things to Windows you'll just make it more complicated than it is and probably confuse yourself.

A short (hopefully) explanation of drive mountings in Linux:

Using drive letters like C:, D:, E:, etc in Windows is annoying and actually just complicates things. i.e. drive letters are inconsistent between systems.
Linux uses 1 directory tree starting at /, the root directory, everything is accessible below this.
All partitions are mounted in directories below /. Meaning / and /home may be two different partitions, you could even have /home mounted over the network and it would make no difference.
Any directory may be a mount point for another partition, although common sense should be used when picking names for them =)

I hope that's understandable =)
 
Ahhhh...i think i get the picture now 🙂

i wasn't aware what the "Home" partition was exactly.
so basically its just an extra Partition.seems simple enough.

Thanks for all your help.
that explanation is what i was looking for. 🙂



Shawn.
 
/home is where user's data files should be kept.



<< It's probably the memory, sad to say but even with 128M KDE and Gnome can be sluggish because they're so huge. If you want more speed try running a lighter Window manager like WindowMaker or BlackBox. >>



Yeah, gotcha recommending blackbox 😛



<< Since you're new to Linux I would suggest RedHat, the setup is pretty easy and it works pretty well. If you really want to learn Linux in and out install Slackware or Debian (my preferance). >>



And there is slack 😉

KDE and Gnome are big and slow. If you ant maximum performance you will have to drop them. If you want the best server performance drop the gui totally. I dont use a gui for my linux box, I run gui programs remotely through my OpenBSD machine.
 
Yeah, gotcha recommending blackbox

I personally like WindowMaker better, but I know blackbox is small and fast. And it's better than fvwm or twm =)

And there is slack

Yea, I throw it out there too or else I'll feel the wrath of all you losers still waiting for X 4.0.1 to compile =)

I dont use a gui for my linux box, I run gui programs remotely through my OpenBSD machine.

That's backwards, Linux is supposed to be the desktop and OpenBSD have no GUI =)
 


<< Yeah, gotcha recommending blackbox

I personally like WindowMaker better, but I know blackbox is small and fast. And it's better than fvwm or twm =) >>



Its definitely better htan fvwm and twm.



<< And there is slack

Yea, I throw it out there too or else I'll feel the wrath of all you losers still waiting for X 4.0.1 to compile =) >>



Ive got Debian on my Linux box right now.



<< I dont use a gui for my linux box, I run gui programs remotely through my OpenBSD machine.

That's backwards, Linux is supposed to be the desktop and OpenBSD have no GUI =) >>



I know, but the video card in my linux machine isnt really supported and I dont feel like switching the two or spending $25 on a better video card. Im also more comfortable with OpenBSD so that helps me use it as a desktop. My next non-PPC machine will definitely be an OpenBSD server.
 
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