Linux and BSD

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: kamper

I know, but he couldn't keep it up if the number of people contributing grew to the size of the linux team. I'm sure Bill Gates wouldn't mind reviewing every piece of code microsoft writes and I bet he'd do a good job too, but obviously that's not going to happen.

I don't think things would change much. He has final say about EVERYTHING.

 

[n0cmonkey]

A linux centric response. I think it makes a lot of sense.

 

[Nothinman]

No one uses ACLs or extended attributes.

Yes, people do. Infact FC4 comes with SELinux installed and enabled by default and SELinux uses EAs.

And that's bad how? If someone had done the work correctly, it might have been put in. Even in the linux kernel it's not what is necessary, but what people want to do that gets worked on.

It's both. And there's probably better balance between what's fun and what's necessary since so many companies are paying kernel developers these days.

Example?

All of his recent Linux comments fall into the "stupid" category, IMO. He's freely admitted that he won't use it or the source code, so how did he formulate his opinions? Reading slashdot?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

No one uses ACLs or extended attributes.

Yes, people do. Infact FC4 comes with SELinux installed and enabled by default and SELinux uses EAs.

And that's bad how? If someone had done the work correctly, it might have been put in. Even in the linux kernel it's not what is necessary, but what people want to do that gets worked on.

It's both. And there's probably better balance between what's fun and what's necessary since so many companies are paying kernel developers these days.

Example?

All of his recent Linux comments fall into the "stupid" category, IMO. He's freely admitted that he won't use it or the source code, so how did he formulate his opinions? Reading slashdot?

Reading vulnerability alerts.

 

[Nothinman]

I think he's just jealous. I doubt he would have been crying about free labor for IBM and the like if they had chosen to support OpenBSD.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
I think he's just jealous. I doubt he would have been crying about free labor for IBM and the like if they had chosen to support OpenBSD.

It would probably depend on the quality of their code.

 

[Nothinman]

IBM's started automated regression tests on each release of Linux, I'm sure that even if Theo didn't like their code he'd take access to their resources.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
IBM's started automated regression tests on each release of Linux, I'm sure that even if Theo didn't like their code he'd take access to their resources.

What's wrong with the previous regression tests?

 

[Nothinman]

OSDL was/is doing some too, but it's impossible to test everything so the more the merrier.

 

[n0cmonkey]

The world is linux/x86 :roll:

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
The world is linux/x86 :roll:

Well I do kinda agree with him, though I won't go as far as he does.
But he does have a point with old crap like m68k, sun4c, etc etc.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
The world is linux/x86 :roll:

Well I do kinda agree with him, though I won't go as far as he does.
But he does have a point with old crap like m68k, sun4c, etc etc.

I think portability is a good thing. Pretty much every new arch OpenBSD brought online has helped find bugs.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
The world is linux/x86 :roll:

Well I do kinda agree with him, though I won't go as far as he does.
But he does have a point with old crap like m68k, sun4c, etc etc.

I think portability is a good thing. Pretty much every new arch OpenBSD brought online has helped find bugs.

Yeah, but the really old crap should be dumped if it ever causes too much extra work.
Putting lots of time and effort into an arch like m68k makes no sense to me.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Yeah, but the really old crap should be dumped if it ever causes too much extra work.
Putting lots of time and effort into an arch like m68k makes no sense to me.

Someone seems to enjoy m68k, at least on OpenBSD. There was a recent revival of the arch (it was almost dropped).