Sup all... I was wondering if Linux 64 cost something bad like 300 bucks... and if is good to run around some games and other normal stuff i do on windows....
Linux 64... is it free...
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Allright... i found so far....
Ubuntu
Madriva
Fedora
I like how Fedora sounds lol... going to get that one...
Ubuntu
Madriva
Fedora
I like how Fedora sounds lol... going to get that one...
Rhonda the Sly
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Bateluer
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Most Linux flavors have a 64 bit version available. If you've never used Linux before, and you sound like you haven't, I'd stick with Ubuntu or Fedora.
From gaming on Linux, you're going to be extremely limited to a smattering of native linux titles and Wine.
From gaming on Linux, you're going to be extremely limited to a smattering of native linux titles and Wine.
whats the real diference between all this linuxes... Fedora.. Ubuntu.. Geetoo... and such???
I only ask becasue I havent been a real lover of linux.. yeah never used it before, for the only reason, no games on it... I just got an itch of messing around with it for a while lol...
I only ask becasue I havent been a real lover of linux.. yeah never used it before, for the only reason, no games on it... I just got an itch of messing around with it for a while lol...
blackangst1
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Probably the best sire for reviews and downloads is www.distrowatch.com. Everything you need is there.
AnonymouseUser
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That depends on your preferences. The good thing is that both are usually supported in all distros and you can install and try both. For older machines there are simpler desktop managers as well.
I've used KDE for years, but now I'm using Gnome and trying to like it. I keep adding KDE packages, though, since I don't like the comparable Gnome packages. I may eventually go back to KDE as Gnome seems lacking to me, but it's all about preference. I'm just glad I have the choice.
Gooberlx2
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I like KDE4 quite a bit. I love Dauphin over Nautilus. But I've always been fond of Gnome's Evolution mail suite over the KDE offerings. Really, it's a matter of preference and I recommend trying out some LiveCDs of various distros before actually installing anything.
Ubuntu (based on Debian) is definitely geared towards the linux newbie. Easy to install the distro and programs, easy to update, huge community support, etc...
Like I said, I like KDE4 and I prefer Opensuse 11's implementation of it. I also like the Yast configuration manager. Their community seems to be steadily growing and the distribution is really becoming solid. Still not quite as fool-proof in some areas over Ubuntu (distro upgrading or installing), but I think their desktop implementation is more intuitive. It also gets a few benefits as plays a little nicer with Windows networks, for example, since it's a child of Suse Linux, which was bought by Novell.
Fedora is somewhere in between Ubuntu and Opensuse.
Gentoo is much, much more complicated to install. The idea is that absolutely everything is compiled for your specific hardware, which should have performance benefits. In truth, I think it's wasted time and effort because the benefits are pretty much imperceptible, and you're not really learning all that much about the linux system during install. If you want an educating experience during install, then go with linux-from-scratch.
Preferences, loyalty, package management, look-and-feel/branding, community support, sometimes even retail support (Dell's Mini9 has a special version of Ubuntu installed).
Ubuntu (based on Debian) is definitely geared towards the linux newbie. Easy to install the distro and programs, easy to update, huge community support, etc...
Like I said, I like KDE4 and I prefer Opensuse 11's implementation of it. I also like the Yast configuration manager. Their community seems to be steadily growing and the distribution is really becoming solid. Still not quite as fool-proof in some areas over Ubuntu (distro upgrading or installing), but I think their desktop implementation is more intuitive. It also gets a few benefits as plays a little nicer with Windows networks, for example, since it's a child of Suse Linux, which was bought by Novell.
Fedora is somewhere in between Ubuntu and Opensuse.
Gentoo is much, much more complicated to install. The idea is that absolutely everything is compiled for your specific hardware, which should have performance benefits. In truth, I think it's wasted time and effort because the benefits are pretty much imperceptible, and you're not really learning all that much about the linux system during install. If you want an educating experience during install, then go with linux-from-scratch.
Can the Packages be compared with windows .zip .rar... and such???? or more like a .dll with .zip functionality??? and how do I install the drivers... I downloaded the drivers for the xfi and radeon for linux versions... but this is far from windows lol.. dunno what to do...
by the way liking gnome one lol... and right now in Fedora... going to try Mandriva, OpenSuSe and ubuntu later on
by the way liking gnome one lol... and right now in Fedora... going to try Mandriva, OpenSuSe and ubuntu later on
Most linux distros will automatically install all drivers for you.
Ubuntu's add/remove programs thing is pretty nice, sorts a lot of relevant programs for you so you can just search and install something to do what you want.
Ubuntu's add/remove programs thing is pretty nice, sorts a lot of relevant programs for you so you can just search and install something to do what you want.
well actually the xfi one is missing.. there is one in the creative site... but after downloaded it... I was like.. ok... now what is next....
I highly suggest Ubuntu 8.04.1 i386 (32-bit). Ubuntu has wonderful support through ubuntuforums.org, and the standard flavor (as opposed to spin-offs like Kubuntu or Xubuntu), by virtue of being most popular, is the one for which you'll find the most online assistance.
Why 32-bit? Because 64-bit Linux suffers many of the same compatibility issues as Windows--and arguably more serious. For example, when I installed Ubuntu 64-bit on my laptop, none of the Java applets would work. And there's no work-around for that. If you want fully-functional Java plugins for Firefox, you must use the i386 (32-bit) version.
Why 32-bit? Because 64-bit Linux suffers many of the same compatibility issues as Windows--and arguably more serious. For example, when I installed Ubuntu 64-bit on my laptop, none of the Java applets would work. And there's no work-around for that. If you want fully-functional Java plugins for Firefox, you must use the i386 (32-bit) version.
hm... ubuntu... i guess i will end up with that one.. this Fedora is pulling my legs... anyway... it is posible for 3d acceleration in any of the linuxes?
BlueAcolyte
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Yes, but it depends on how new the version you have is. Sometimes, new versions will not have 3d drivers written for them yet. Ubuntu 8.04 has 3d drivers, that I know for sure.
and I can run a game on it???... I was wondering how it feels to play on linux at all...
want to test a few there
want to test a few there
There aren't many games FOR linux. The unreal tournaments, quakes, and such. A few free games, like Nexuiz. You can however run some windows games.
After you get ubuntu (you'll probably want to try the beta of version 8.10, the final release is coming out at the end of the month but you can get it now) install envyng and have it download and install the latest drivers for your video card. Note, only envyng + ubuntu 8.10 will get the latest, 8.04 is out of date.
After that you'll need to get WINE. You can also get that through ubuntu's add/remove programs option. You can then install some windows games. Given how often WINE is updated, you can choose to add the official WINE repositories instead. Ubuntu really only does major software updates every 6 months (thus the new versions), so something as frequently updated as WINE (windows compatibility layer basically) falls behind fast. You can then try to install some windows games as you would normally, but there's no guarantee they'll work perfectly, if at all. Many older games will work better on Linux than on Vista though, or even XP.
what are repositories... every one linux mention this so much???
and I am downloading a ubuntu version but is a CD 670 mb... is taht the correct version... 8.04 LTS?
and I am downloading a ubuntu version but is a CD 670 mb... is taht the correct version... 8.04 LTS?
Repositories are software that linux distributions keep track of. Anything in them can be easily installed by the installation program, including all additional programs needed to run that program (since not everything is all inclusive).
You'll probably want to upgrade to the beta of ubuntu 8.10 after you install 8.04. After installing 8.04,
"To upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '8.10' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions."
Then go to to add/remove programs, search through all programs, and type in WINE and EnvyNG. If it doesn't find them, you can start a terminal window and type
sudo apt-get install wine
and
sudo apt-get install envyng
Wine allows you to run many windows programs. Envyng is a program you run to find and install the latest linux graphics drivers.
You'll probably want to upgrade to the beta of ubuntu 8.10 after you install 8.04. After installing 8.04,
"To upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '8.10' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions."
Then go to to add/remove programs, search through all programs, and type in WINE and EnvyNG. If it doesn't find them, you can start a terminal window and type
sudo apt-get install wine
and
sudo apt-get install envyng
Wine allows you to run many windows programs. Envyng is a program you run to find and install the latest linux graphics drivers.
now that I got the ubuntu image and burn it... it doesnt load omg... they get stuck in the ubuntu logo with that orange bar moving from left to right...
It may take a while at first. If not, I think it has a safe mode to boot up in.
That, or try the text only alternate installer cd.
When you first install, run the "check CD for defects" wizard. It's tempting to skip that, but if there are errors on the disc that can seriously screw up your install. It only takes 5 min or so to check the disc, but it can save you hours of hassle later on.
Also, be wary of beta versions. Part of the reason Ubuntu is so sweet is because of all the support out there. Going with 8.10 beta might get you a few new features, but at the cost of a larger support base (which 8.04.1 has).
Also, be wary of beta versions. Part of the reason Ubuntu is so sweet is because of all the support out there. Going with 8.10 beta might get you a few new features, but at the cost of a larger support base (which 8.04.1 has).
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