[LinusTechTips] Fury X vs. Reference 980Ti tested in a small form factor case

[casiofx]

Well if your Athlon II has been running at those temps for 4 years then all is good.

Seriously though you understand computer equipment runs better in cooler environments right? If that wasn't the case Google and Anandtech wouldn't have their servers in temp controlled buildings that sit at ~67-70F. Just let them run away at 90F with fans spinning at 110% to save on AC costs. /facepalm

Instead of pushing your poor equipment to the max go buy a wall AC instead of a new video card.

Servers have different type of cooling compared to personal computers.
Servers have densely packed computer parts that generates a lot of heat in a small volume of room space compared to personal computers. That's why they need AC because AC is technically a heat pump.
Do you not think that personal computer part designers neglects such a big customer base that runs on 30C? They of course designed it so that their computer parts can run fine, else they are risking loses due to warranty claims.

Also you should know that there are plenty people in this world that dislike ACs, they got headaches by being in closed room with AC. I don't but my whole family does. So does many of my colleagues.

Let me help you with that face palm.
Just because you find it to be subjectively fine does not mean the vast majority of the world's population would not describe it as hot. None of us here are living in mud huts drinking from a contaminated water hole. We generally have access to things like electricity, shelter, running water, and conditioning. If you think 90 F is the norm for indoor temps, then why does any and every commercial building with up-to-date working HVAC not let their offices warm up to 90 F? Because..... because..... As I said in my previous post, the vast majority of people find 90 F highly uncomfortable indoors.

Just get over it and move on.

Stop with the bad analogy, commercial buildings deals with a big volume of air unlike residential houses.
And please get your comprehension up a notch. I said not all people finds 90F uncomfortable. By that logic it also means all the others that aren't in the group of people finds that uncomfortable. Now why would you reverse it to explain it to me when I have already know? Stop twisting the words.

 

[railven]

It's got to be subjective then and I'd guess you've gotten used to using blowers and the noise they produce. The cooler on 980ti/TX was nice back when Titan came out, but it's starting to become inadequate with GM200. The cards are loud with the reference blower. There is no way around that, reference 980ti and Titan X are very loud cards under load.

That blower is not quiet at all and makes a huge racket when it ramps up. Even going on your mentioned 50% speed, the cooler is really loud at 50%.

In the context of this thread the last card I would want in any SFF PC would be a reference 980ti or TX. It would be just as bad as sticking a reference 290 in there.

Gotta disagree here. I went from Ref 290X to Ref 980 Ti, and the difference is still worlds apart. Does the 980 Ti get loud? Sure, it is audible at 65% (which is where I run mine to keep temps at 75C).

The Ref 290X at 50% was louder than it. Hell, when I did my suicide runs both 100% fan load, the 290X is still decibels ahead of the 980 Ti. I'm not saying the 980 ti Ref blower is "quiet" but it is not comparable to the blower on the ref 290/X, not by a long shot.

I couldn't stand the 290X ref even a custom fan curve, thing sucked at cooling and because it did that fan would ramp. Above 40% fan speed and it drowned out everything in my rig. And I had a ref 7970 blower, which I don't recall ever being that loud/annoying.

Suicide CFX 290X runs and I was in a wind tunnel haha.

 

[Sabrewings]

*reads while eating popcorn in a 69*F house*

But seriously, all computer parts have an operational max temp. Any higher than that and the MTBF is shorter. How much shorter is hard to say, but it's not going to keel over in just a couple days for violating it a bit. Besides, if you have good cooling through the case the higher ambients can be mitigated to an extent by minimizing the delta T.

 

[Piroko]

It's pretty much a given though that your hardware's life is significantly shortened compared to say someone running a PC in 60F -70F Ambient temps. You can't disagree. I mean, of course you can, but you'd be wrong in doing so.

So, are the solid caps going to dry out quicker?

No, seriously, very few components are affected by permanent escalated temperatures (see hot water cooling in datacenters). Temperature cycling can be much worse, but the temperature delta is more likely to decrease with increased ambient temperature (max. temp. target reached -> increased fan speed, throttling).

 

[Majcric]

I really don't know what point the OP is trying to make with this thread. Not enough games were tested to make any kind of conclusion either way. Of course, he does go on to state the reference 980ti isn't any good. So maybe that was it. Even when many of us users disagree.

 

[Silverforce11]

I really don't know what point the OP is trying to make with this thread. Not enough games were tested to make any kind of conclusion either way. Of course, he does go on to state the reference 980ti isn't any good. So maybe that was it. Even when many of us users disagree.

The point he was trying to make is that Linus is stupid for using a water cooling radiator as intake in a tiny case. Even then, when its operating worse case scenario, it did not throttle like the blower 980Ti.

 

[railven]

The point he was trying to make is that Linus is stupid for using a water cooling radiator as intake in a tiny case. Even then, when its operating worse case scenario, it did not throttle like the blower 980Ti.

Basically this. A water cooler is better than a blower. We needed Linus to cook his PC and set of a tangent debate on what is acceptable ambient temp to conclude, once and for all with scientific evidence; that a water cooler is better than a blower.

I'm glad we got that out of the way.