Links to election polls besides major media

[Texashiker]

Does anyone have links to polls besides those of major media? Sites where anyone can vote.

Who will you be voting for?

Lets see some small blog / website polls that are independent of major media outlets.

Major media says hillary is beating trump, but I just do not see that kind of support unless I go to a liberal website. Sites like cnn, huffpost, politico,,, all saying trump is losing, but where are they getting their data from?

 

[fskimospy]

Does anyone have links to polls besides those of major media? Sites where anyone can vote.

Who will you be voting for?

Lets see some small blog / website polls that are independent of major media outlets.

Major media says hillary is beating trump, but I just do not see that kind of support unless I go to a liberal website.

Internet polls are not scientific and are incredibly unreliable. Looking at them is worse than useless.

If you don't believe me, go look at how many internet polls Ron Paul won in 2008.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

How easily conservatives forget their mistakes of the past.

Remember Romney? Remember the unskewing of the polls because conservatives couldn't fathom the support for their opponent and the failings of their own candidate? Election Day showed the polls were actually skewed against Obama.

Instead of ignoring available statistically reliable information in search of confirmation of your beliefs it may be better served to evaluate the failings of your preferred candidate that the majority seem to see and that you are currently blind to.

 

[Jhhnn]

Internet polls are not scientific and are incredibly unreliable. Looking at them is worse than useless.

If you don't believe me, go look at how many internet polls Ron Paul won in 2008.

Yeh, maybe Breitbart will do their own poll just to keep TH' s hopes up...

Ron Paul? Y0u betcha!

 

[dullard]

What is the point? If you yourself exclude events that you dislike, then the only possible outcome is events that you like. But that doesn't mean the result has any value.

The internet, which is obviously biased towards people with green hairy feet, told me that a coin toss is roughly 50/50. I want people here to flip coins and only those people who flip heads should post. Then I can prove that heads comes up nearly 100% of the time! By bringing in my own bias to that coin toss equation, I only get results that I want! Wonderful. Except, the results have no meaning and no practical use.

You don't want small, independent websites. That is like asking the owners of a pizza shop who has the best pizza in town. When the answer just happens to be their own pizza shop, that doesn't actually make their pizza better than any other restaurant. No, that is a pool of voters that is too small and too biased to be of use.

No poll is perfect. The best you can do is to poll a large number of people in as random a way as possible to dilute and offset those who are biased towards either side. That requires a large pollster, not a small blog.

If thousands of random people, over and over again, keep giving a similar result. Maybe you should trust that result. Rather than strive to find a result that matches your wishes.

 

[gorobei]

online polls typically only capture those who already have an opinion and want to overshare it, therefore as others have said very unreliable.

realclearpolitics or 538 aggregate all polls.
most respectable news media are using the polls on their list, whichever is the latest. you can go hunting for one that tells you what you want to hear but it doesnt mean it will be true.

538 does rate all the poll takers.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
most the the good ones are run by universities and are generally considered impartial. you know academics, always more interested in statistical numbers and facts.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Does anyone have links to polls besides those of major media? Sites where anyone can vote.

Who will you be voting for?

Lets see some small blog / website polls that are independent of major media outlets.

Major media says hillary is beating trump, but I just do not see that kind of support unless I go to a liberal website. Sites like cnn, huffpost, politico,,, all saying trump is losing, but where are they getting their data from?

LOL @ the link. survivalist bullshit, and as others have pointed out, realclearpolitics and 538 are very reputable, unless of course, they aren't giving you the results YOU want, then they are liberal crap. LOL toothless, that link... L.O.L.

 

[dank69]

I know a troll thread when I see one.

 

[retrospooty]

Does anyone have links to polls besides those of major media? Sites where anyone can vote.

Who will you be voting for?

Lets see some small blog / website polls that are independent of major media outlets.

Major media says hillary is beating trump, but I just do not see that kind of support unless I go to a liberal website. Sites like cnn, huffpost, politico,,, all saying trump is losing, but where are they getting their data from?

There is really only one reliable place to look. RCP http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ral_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html#polls

They don't do polling, they just show average of all polls. So you have a larger sample size, outliers are flattened by sheer #'s and you get a much clearer and accurate result. They have been right on the money for the past 3 presidential elections... If the election were held today, Clinton would win by appx 7% give or take a percent or two.
- So yeah, Trump is not looking good right now. In spite of wherever you are looking.

 

[Texashiker]

LOL @ the link. survivalist bullshit, and as others have pointed out, realclearpolitics and 538 are very reputable, unless of course, they aren't giving you the results YOU want, then they are liberal crap. LOL toothless, that link... L.O.L.

Do you have a link to a site I can vote in or not?

I know a troll thread when I see one.

Trolling is asking for sites where anyone can vote in a poll?

 

[retrospooty]

Do you have a link to a site I can vote in or not?

Trolling is asking for sites where anyone can vote in a poll?

As others have mentioned, there is no such thing as a reliable online poll. It simply doesn't exist. If you want to see what is really happening and how people are really polling, 538 or RCP. End of story.
- Of course things can change before November, but those polls will be accurate then too. If you don't like the results shown at 538 and RCP the first week of November, you arent going to like the next 4 years much. Seems like you are looking for specific results rather than real results though. /shrugs.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Does anyone have links to polls besides those of major media? Sites where anyone can vote.

Who will you be voting for?

Lets see some small blog / website polls that are independent of major media outlets.

Major media says hillary is beating trump, but I just do not see that kind of support unless I go to a liberal website. Sites like cnn, huffpost, politico,,, all saying trump is losing, but where are they getting their data from?

You should seriously sit down in a dark room and reflect on what you are asking. Polls are a good faith attempt, using fairly complicated methodologies, to try to gauge what the current REALITY is regarding support for each candidate within the electorate. It is understandable if you dont understand how complicated this process can be, regarding why they adjust the weighting in their random samples, have more democrats represented than republicans, etc. However, where you go wrong is assuming there is some kind of insidious attempt to mislead the public by these "liberal websites", most of which by the way do not conduct their own polls, but publish the results from reputable polling organizations that are independent. Why would they intentionally mislead when they will essentially be graded in November when the actual vote takes place? What you are seeking is an extremely unscientific internet poll that misleadingly shows that Trump is winning so you can put off your own reckoning with the state of the race, which is that Donald Trump is losing badly, and the Republican party is having an identity crisis. Why do you wish to do this to yourself when this imaginary reality you construct for yourself will come crashing down in November? You are just amplifying the trauma on yourself. I can build a simple online poll from scratch in under an hour. Does that then make me a qualified pollster? Absolutely not. If I advertise it on a hunting site, it will show that Trump will win in a landslide. If I advertise it on salon.com, it will show Hillary winning in a landslide. Can you not see the problem with this methodology? Stop trying to substitute your own made up reality for the real thing. It will always eventually catch up with you, and in this case it has an actual date of Nov 8th.

I'm assuming this is not a troll post.


Also, I'm pretty sure you were around in the 2012 election. Do you not recall many republican voters making the same attempts to deny and discredit all these "liberal" polls, to the point that they thought Romney was going to win in a landslide? How did that work out? I remember so many conservatives being stunned the following morning, when they really didn't have to be.

 

[dullard]

Do you have a link to a site I can vote in or not?

Just create one here. Then you can vote in it. The result will be meaningless, but you (or anyone else) can vote in it.

Trolling is asking for sites where anyone can vote in a poll?

It is borderline since you posted a link that answered your own question while simultaneously implying that opposing links will not be acceptable.

 

[DrDoug]

Yeh, maybe Breitbart will do their own poll just to keep TH' s hopes up...

Ron Paul? Y0u betcha!

Seek and ye shall find!

Texashiker needs to talk to Karl Rove, I heard that he's really good at math!

 

[Brainonska511]

Why? Do you really want to live in an echo chamber that just tells you what you want to hear?

And why do you think scientifically conducted polls run by polling experts are invalid?

 

[linthat22]

Does this count?

http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/08/abc-live-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/

 

[Brainonska511]

Does this count?

http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/08/abc-live-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/

You might as well have just linked the Onion.

 

[zinfamous]

Does anyone have links to polls besides those of major media? Sites where anyone can vote.

Who will you be voting for?

Lets see some small blog / website polls that are independent of major media outlets.

Major media says hillary is beating trump, but I just do not see that kind of support unless I go to a liberal website. Sites like cnn, huffpost, politico,,, all saying trump is losing, but where are they getting their data from?

so you're only interested in garbage metrics?

OK

Trump is losing because Trump is losing. It's really not complicated

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/

This isn't a liberal conspiracy from "big media." It is simply that the country detests this man.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Does this count?

http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/08/abc-live-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/

Lol. 70% of votes for trump, with Hillary coming in 4th behind Jill Stein.

Is this what you are seeking OP? Is there enough sand here to bury your head in?

 

[emperus]

Trolling is asking for sites where anyone can vote in a poll?

People suggesting (well hoping) you're trolling are being kind.

 

[gorobei]

one thing about polling, there is the survey and then there is the model.

the survey is all about the sample size, sufficient representation, questions asked, options presented, etc.

the model is used to fine tune the results of the survey. some of the pollsters use a estimate/guess on voter turnout in certain situations. they can know past patterns, they can take current indicators, but because they are using such a small sample they have to use a value in a particular range to give the nice clean simple answer everyone writes headlines about. if they get turnout prediction number wrong, you get things like the brexit fumble.

 

[DrPizza]

The thread could have been locked after the first response. This has to be trolling. No one can really be so stupid as to think random online polls about the Presidential election have any validity whatsoever.

 

[cyclohexane]

Please vote here.

I just gave Trump 5 millions votes, none for Hillary. Clearly Trump is in the lead, right?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Aaaaaaand we have it

Well done TH, I think you may have a record for this.

 

[fskimospy]

one thing about polling, there is the survey and then there is the model.

the survey is all about the sample size, sufficient representation, questions asked, options presented, etc.

the model is used to fine tune the results of the survey. some of the pollsters use a estimate/guess on voter turnout in certain situations. they can know past patterns, they can take current indicators, but because they are using such a small sample they have to use a value in a particular range to give the nice clean simple answer everyone writes headlines about. if they get turnout prediction number wrong, you get things like the brexit fumble.

How so? Polling averages had 'leave' winning for most of the month before the vote. The final average was 'remain', but only by half a point and in the middle of volatile polling in the wake of that MP's assassination. That was basically the polls saying they didn't know, as half a point is within the margin of error even for polling averages.