Links to Al Queda not substantiated

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Another break in the Chain

Iraq Group Claims Al-Qaida Links, Attacks

"CAIRO, Egypt - A group claiming to be an Iraqi branch of al-Qaida said it is behind recent attacks on U.S. forces ? not Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) ? according to a videotape aired on an Arab TV station Sunday. The tape couldn't be immediately verified."

Guess we'll see what becomes of this, eh?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Another break in the Chain

Iraq Group Claims Al-Qaida Links, Attacks

"CAIRO, Egypt - A group claiming to be an Iraqi branch of al-Qaida said it is behind recent attacks on U.S. forces ? not Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) ? according to a videotape aired on an Arab TV station Sunday. The tape couldn't be immediately verified."

Guess we'll see what becomes of this, eh?

Interesting. Wouldn't be surprised if it is true, what better way for Al Qaida to get back at the US than to take advantage of a confusing situation like post-war Iraq?

 

[CaptnKirk]

This ought to be a thrill ride, Rouge Iraqi's operating undercover without the knowledge of Saddam's presence.
Originating claims out of Egypt. Who are these masked men.
If they ARE Al Queda, right - take them down.

But what if they are just a cell that is psychologically turning up the heat on our inteligence
knowing that we tend to over-react, and will begin to lash out and strike at anything.
That would be them using us as a pawn to further spread the hatred toward America -
Let's them orchestrate us to be their recruiters against our presence.

They don't have to have any actual presence in Iraq to pull our chain and expand our willingness to launch a pre-empt
against any population center that they wish to make an alegation about.
We pull the trigger for them, further their cause, and take the hit both physically and emotionally.
Ultimate twist of fate.

 

[DealMonkey]

It would be natural for Islamic militants to flock to Iraq now that it's been attacked. It happened in Afghanistan too, mostly w/ Pakistanis militants crossing the border wanting to defend the Taliban. Even though they probably hated Hussein's secular regime, they of course hate America even more... and now that we're occupying Arab lands...

 

[Warin]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Charrison did well against your claims
The only thing I'd add is that YOU said there was "NO" link with Al Qaeda and I pointed out that there were, however small you may think they are, they are still links. "lack of a meaningful connection"(back in September) does not
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Al
Quaeda is opperating in the US. I guess Bush supports Al Quaeda. Somebody should attack us.

Caddy, you call a bunch of people who publish a paper on taking over Iraq (wait till Corn tries to spin this) who are also the ones who went to war in Iraq a conspiracy. I feel so sorry for your mind. You can't even do two and two.

No one should attack us because there are Al Qaeda here. We didn't attack Iraq solely for that reason either. There were links - and to say other wise is ignorace. The depth of the connection is the question - not wether or not there were links.

CkG

There are also concrete links between senior republican officials, and both Osama bin Ladin and Saddam Hussein. And these are the guys ryunning your country?

things can be spun and manufactured at will, to make the point you want to make. The thing is, this time Bush and the ruling cabal are being called on it.

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Yes, and Tenet will be the fall guy while the rest of the administration goes about with as much spin and diversion as they can muster. This needs to remain on the front page until the truth is known, and these ratbastyards are thrown out of power. People need to make informed decisions when they vote. This is important in that choice.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Tenet. As I've been digging through all of these articles lately, I've seen several that suggest the CIA warned Bush and his minions about the al Qaeda threat before Septmber 11. One report reportedly mentioned hijacking explicitly in connection with al Qaeda. However, Bush-lite was scheduled to take his August vacation, and did not act on this information himself. He also did NOT direct his staff to do anything about it. He did NOT direct the FAA to do anything to improve security.

If this information is true, the theory is Tenet is safe because he knows too much. If he talks, it would bring down the Bush administration.

I believe Tenet is on his way out because he has no stomach for this deciet. It is political, and the CIA is supposed to be above politics. Yes, Tenet has the goods on Bush. But it is also on him. Regardless of the intel at that time, It is difficult to believe such a thing would actually happen like 9/11. It was just too much to swallow, and I can see difficulty in that intel developing into any defense without tipping our hand and letting the enemy know we know what they are up to. Tenet did have knowledge and so did Bush. But who would have done any different? 9/11 is bad enough without blaming our own people for the dispicable act. Tenet will leave, and this will not be forgotten in 2004. An investigation will begin assoon as Tenet is relieved of duty at the CIA. Congress will call him to the hill to explain all of this, and any republican effort to block an investigation will be seen for what it is-----obstruction of justice.

 

[etech]

things can be spun and manufactured at will, to make the point you want to make.

Yep, there have been numerous examples of that in this board recently.

 

[Warin]

Originally posted by: etech

things can be spun and manufactured at will, to make the point you want to make.

Yep, there have been numerous examples of that in this board recently.

Perhaps. But considering the scope of the alleged fabrications by Bush Regime officials, and the results of said alleged fabrications, TBA has a lot more to answer for than someone on this board would for asserting that Bush is an a$$hat.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Warin

Originally posted by: etech

things can be spun and manufactured at will, to make the point you want to make.

Yep, there have been numerous examples of that in this board recently.

Perhaps. But considering the scope of the alleged fabrications by Bush Regime officials, and the results of said alleged fabrications, TBA has a lot more to answer for than someone on this board would for asserting that Bush is an a$$hat.

Perhaps? my foot. I'll leave it at that for now.

 

[CaptnKirk]

U.S. Inteligence plays down Al Queda Claim

Maybe they're going to procede with kid gloves in order to avoid over-reacting.
As was pointed out, this may be more of a migrant Jihad with forigners coming
in - Pakistan, Afganistan, Saudi Arabia. We saw these types as the Illegal Combatants
that were rounded up in Afganistan, and there are many countries over there that will let
their young men go to a Muslin Holy War, Soldiers of Allah in their own minds.

Illegal Combatant or Soldier of Allah, same thing except for the refusal to recognize them
as a prisoner of war, so we do not have the constraints of the Geneva Convention.

Unfortunaterly this could escalate in a hurry if the Arabs respond in mass, but they
likely will stay underground and transition into a more clandestine guerilla war.