line array speakers and surround sound?

[Kaido]

I've seen some pics of line array speakers online, tall speakers with a ton of drivers in them...are these usually just used in stereo, for music, or is there some way to go surround sound with them?

 

[mercanucaribe]

Yes. Buy 5 of them.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Yes. Buy 5 of them.

:thumbsup: they're just normal speaker hookups but they have multiple drivers.

You're just talking about something like the legend pictured here, right?

 

[Goosemaster]

Perhaps he is reffering to somethign like this ...http://www.yamaha.com/yec/YSP1/index.htm

 

[Viper GTS]

No, this is a line array.

Viper GTS

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
No, this is a line array.

Viper GTS

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basically they are expensive, but not all that hard to use in a surround setup i would imagine.

MIKE

 

[Viper GTS]

I wouldn't use line arrays in a surround system, that's not what they are intended for.

They don't behave even remotely like a single point source.

Viper GTS

 

[EvilYoda]

yeah, LAs are very different in performance from what you're used to...and it's not actually as you may think if you wanted to build one. A very popular LA 1-2 years ago was using the small Tang Band drivers...lots of time for the enclosure and wiring, but the parts weren't too bad.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Oh, I thought they were just a continuation of the normal multiple driver tower speaker concept... 😱 sorry.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
No, this is a line array.

Viper GTS

yup, just like that. here's a fun project page I found:

http://www.ratch-h.com/farm.html

are they mostly for music or what? I just see a really tall speaker with a million drivers in it, I dunno much about them.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
No, this is a line array.

Viper GTS

yup, just like that. here's a fun project page I found:

http://www.ratch-h.com/farm.html

are they mostly for music or what? I just see a really tall speaker with a million drivers in it, I dunno much about them.

There's waaaay more girls on that site than I was expecting.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh, I thought they were just a continuation of the normal multiple driver tower speaker concept... 😱 sorry.

you know, I'm probably better off going the normal route anyway. I'm going to build a Dayton kit off Parts Express first, and then probably the Dayton III MTM's from Speakerbuilder.net.

The BR-1s (shielded):

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-642

The Dayton III's:

http://speakerbuilder.net/web_files/Projects/D3/dayton3.htm

Maybe throw in a line array down the road 🙂 On my budget (both time and financial), I'll be happy if I can do the Dayton III's by the end of the year. My eventual home theater plan/dream is to build a really nice 5.1 TV system with a glossy Rosewood veneer and an SVS tube sub and then a seperate projector room system with a 7.1 system and a 15" Adire Tumult or two. That's years down the road, however. I need experience and a house to do that 😀

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh, I thought they were just a continuation of the normal multiple driver tower speaker concept... 😱 sorry.

you know, I'm probably better off going the normal route anyway. I'm going to build a Dayton kit off Parts Express first, and then probably the Dayton III MTM's from Speakerbuilder.net.

The BR-1s (shielded):

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-642

The Dayton III's:

http://speakerbuilder.net/web_files/Projects/D3/dayton3.htm

Maybe throw in a line array down the road 🙂 On my budget (both time and financial), I'll be happy if I can do the Dayton III's by the end of the year. My eventual home theater plan/dream is to build a really nice 5.1 TV system with a glossy Rosewood veneer and an SVS tube sub and then a seperate projector room system with a 7.1 system and a 15" Adire Tumult or two. That's years down the road, however. I need experience and a house to do that 😀

Go directly for some quality speakers.

Check out the lower end stuff that GR-Research has.

Viper GTS

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
No, this is a line array.

Viper GTS

yup, just like that. here's a fun project page I found:

http://www.ratch-h.com/farm.html

are they mostly for music or what? I just see a really tall speaker with a million drivers in it, I dunno much about them.

There's waaaay more girls on that site than I was expecting.

Hehe. I'd kill to get into that class. I believe the school is in California. Oh, to be in high school again...eh, nevermind, not worth it. I think the teacher is pretty cool to let them design and build the speaker projects and test everything. He should write a book on how to do it 🙂

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh, I thought they were just a continuation of the normal multiple driver tower speaker concept... 😱 sorry.

you know, I'm probably better off going the normal route anyway. I'm going to build a Dayton kit off Parts Express first, and then probably the Dayton III MTM's from Speakerbuilder.net.

The BR-1s (shielded):

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-642

The Dayton III's:

http://speakerbuilder.net/web_files/Projects/D3/dayton3.htm

Maybe throw in a line array down the road 🙂 On my budget (both time and financial), I'll be happy if I can do the Dayton III's by the end of the year. My eventual home theater plan/dream is to build a really nice 5.1 TV system with a glossy Rosewood veneer and an SVS tube sub and then a seperate projector room system with a 7.1 system and a 15" Adire Tumult or two. That's years down the road, however. I need experience and a house to do that 😀

Go directly for some quality speakers.

Check out the lower end stuff that GR-Research has.

Viper GTS

wow neat, haven't heard of that company before, thanks for the link!

what the heck is a ribbon on a speaker?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh, I thought they were just a continuation of the normal multiple driver tower speaker concept... 😱 sorry.

you know, I'm probably better off going the normal route anyway. I'm going to build a Dayton kit off Parts Express first, and then probably the Dayton III MTM's from Speakerbuilder.net.

The BR-1s (shielded):

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-642

The Dayton III's:

http://speakerbuilder.net/web_files/Projects/D3/dayton3.htm

Maybe throw in a line array down the road 🙂 On my budget (both time and financial), I'll be happy if I can do the Dayton III's by the end of the year. My eventual home theater plan/dream is to build a really nice 5.1 TV system with a glossy Rosewood veneer and an SVS tube sub and then a seperate projector room system with a 7.1 system and a 15" Adire Tumult or two. That's years down the road, however. I need experience and a house to do that 😀

Go directly for some quality speakers.

Check out the lower end stuff that GR-Research has.

Viper GTS

wow neat, haven't heard of that company before, thanks for the link!

what the heck is a ribbon on a speaker?

I'll try to redeem myself: a ribbon is a type of tweeter

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh, I thought they were just a continuation of the normal multiple driver tower speaker concept... 😱 sorry.

you know, I'm probably better off going the normal route anyway. I'm going to build a Dayton kit off Parts Express first, and then probably the Dayton III MTM's from Speakerbuilder.net.

The BR-1s (shielded):

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-642

The Dayton III's:

http://speakerbuilder.net/web_files/Projects/D3/dayton3.htm

Maybe throw in a line array down the road 🙂 On my budget (both time and financial), I'll be happy if I can do the Dayton III's by the end of the year. My eventual home theater plan/dream is to build a really nice 5.1 TV system with a glossy Rosewood veneer and an SVS tube sub and then a seperate projector room system with a 7.1 system and a 15" Adire Tumult or two. That's years down the road, however. I need experience and a house to do that 😀

Go directly for some quality speakers.

Check out the lower end stuff that GR-Research has.

Viper GTS

wow neat, haven't heard of that company before, thanks for the link!

what the heck is a ribbon on a speaker?

I'll try to redeem myself: a ribbon is a type of tweeter

normally with very very good on axis response, however they typically have poor off axis response.

MIKE

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh, I thought they were just a continuation of the normal multiple driver tower speaker concept... 😱 sorry.

you know, I'm probably better off going the normal route anyway. I'm going to build a Dayton kit off Parts Express first, and then probably the Dayton III MTM's from Speakerbuilder.net.

The BR-1s (shielded):

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-642

The Dayton III's:

http://speakerbuilder.net/web_files/Projects/D3/dayton3.htm

Maybe throw in a line array down the road 🙂 On my budget (both time and financial), I'll be happy if I can do the Dayton III's by the end of the year. My eventual home theater plan/dream is to build a really nice 5.1 TV system with a glossy Rosewood veneer and an SVS tube sub and then a seperate projector room system with a 7.1 system and a 15" Adire Tumult or two. That's years down the road, however. I need experience and a house to do that 😀

Go directly for some quality speakers.

Check out the lower end stuff that GR-Research has.

Viper GTS

wow neat, haven't heard of that company before, thanks for the link!

what the heck is a ribbon on a speaker?

I'll try to redeem myself: a ribbon is a type of tweeter

normally with very very good on axis response, however they typically have poor off axis response.

MIKE

what does that mean? on and off axis?

 

[Kaido]

eh, someone recommend me a speaker theory website or book. all the math involved, crossover stuff, etc. I understand the basic concepts but not much else 😛

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Kaido
what does that mean? on and off axis?

It's the angle to the speaker you're at.

If you're perpendicular to the front face of the speaker you're on axis.

( again, I hope I'm right 😉 )

 

[MikeMike]

adireaudio.com has some white papers, but those are normally on just their own speaker technology (XBL^2), diyaudio.com i think is a site.

MIKE

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Kaido
what does that mean? on and off axis?

On axis meaning you're sitting directly in the woofer line of travel, off axis meaning you're at some other angle to it.

Viper GTS

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Kaido
what does that mean? on and off axis?

It's the angle to the speaker you're at.

If you're perpendicular to the front face of the speaker you're on axis.

( again, I hope I'm right 😉 )

ah, so it has a limited...soundstage? is that right? I've heard that some speakers have wide/narrow soundstages, which I'm assuming is like how much you can hear if you move around the room or whatever.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
adireaudio.com has some white papers, but those are normally on just their own speaker technology (XBL^2), diyaudio.com i think is a site.

MIKE

yeah, I've looked at both of those. Adire has some killer subs 🙂

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
adireaudio.com has some white papers, but those are normally on just their own speaker technology (XBL^2), diyaudio.com i think is a site.

MIKE

yeah, I've looked at both of those. Adire has some killer subs 🙂

just released a bunch of new subs, extended their lines etc. i think there is an 18" tumult now, but i dunno havent checked in a while.

MIKE