Limited Income and an apartment complex

[fury3]

I am in the market for an apartment with a buddy of mine. We both go to college, both work in steakhouses as servers/bartenders. We need a relatively cheap place to stay. We went apartment shopping and here in my home town, prices are outrageous. However, we did find an apartment complex that is EXTEMELY NICE INSIDE, best apartment Ive seen yet. The price is EXTREMELY CHEAP compared to other local complexes. Its also less that 6 months old. Now, here is the kicker. To be able to live in these apartments, you have to be making only so much money. Combined with my buddy, we cant make more than $33k. He and I do not claim much of our tips, we make well over 20k a year easily, but out check stubs show we have made $10k each. Which qualifies us for the apartment. We did all the paper work, but I am starting to have a funny feeling about this.

Are these apartments government owned? Does the government pay a portion of the rent or something. I have never been one for milking the government, but I also need a cheap place to stay. What do u guys think I should do?

 

[DAGTA]

Sounds like Government subsidized apartments to me.

It COULD be a private investor that just wants to help people out, but the chances of that are extremely slim.

 

[fury3]

well, what are ur takes on this, should I do it? it would save me a hell of alot of money

 

[miri]

We have those around here, they put them in the nice areas to. Brand new apartments, government subsidized in nice areas of the suburbs.

Just realize your neighbors will be low income people, not saying that is bad.

 

[fury3]

my question is, is it wrong. the reason I ask is my dad the other day called me and told me he didnt agree with what I was doing( applying for the apartments)

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: fury3
my question is, is it wrong. the reason I ask is my dad the other day called me and told me he didnt agree with what I was doing( applying for the apartments)

Whats wrong is you not declaring all your tips. How do you do that? I thought most people payed with charge cards these days, with the tip cleary recorded.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: fury3
well, what are ur takes on this, should I do it? it would save me a hell of alot of money

It's certainly not moral or ethical.

These apartments are set aside and subsidized by the government for people who need the help, you might be taking the apartment away from a single mom with a kid or two trying to keep her life together after a divorce. Little timmy will be awfully cold out on the street looking up at your warm apartment

It's the same as if you guys applied for food stamps and/or went to a food bank for your groceries. You're taking away a resource that's intended for people who need it a lot more than you do.

 

[fury3]

well, CC tips are automatically claimed, so I never claim and cash tips. At my fine dining steakhouse, we have alot of cash people

 

[fury3]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: fury3
well, what are ur takes on this, should I do it? it would save me a hell of alot of money

It's certainly not moral or ethical.

These apartments are set aside and subsidized by the government for people who need the help, you might be taking the apartment away from a single mom with a kid or two trying to keep her life together after a divorce. Little timmy will be awfully cold out on the street looking up at your warm apartment

It's the same as if you guys applied for food stamps and/or went to a food bank for your groceries. You're taking away a resource that's intended for people who need it a lot more than you do.

I agree with you, thats why I am here. However, these apartments have also been housing alot of evacuees, something I dont agree with. These people have been on welfare for ages, and I work for a living, big difference there. I should make a poll

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: fury3
well, what are ur takes on this, should I do it? it would save me a hell of alot of money

It's certainly not moral or ethical.

These apartments are set aside and subsidized by the government for people who need the help, you might be taking the apartment away from a single mom with a kid or two trying to keep her life together after a divorce. Little timmy will be awfully cold out on the street looking up at your warm apartment

It's the same as if you guys applied for food stamps and/or went to a food bank for your groceries. You're taking away a resource that's intended for people who need it a lot more than you do.

Hes already not claiming most his tips. Thats tax money that could have helped people that need it. I dont think he cares about resources that are intended for people that need it. I could be wrong.

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: fury3
well, CC tips are automatically claimed, so I never claim and cash tips. At my fine dining steakhouse, we have alot of cash people

So when the IRS audits you, your gonna say you made nothing on cash sales?

 

[fury3]

No, I do care. Working the type of job I work sucks. I am paying for my school, I pay for all my things. A little help to get me through all this sure would help me out. Its not like I will be living here for years.

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: fury3
No, I do care. Working the type of job I work sucks. I am paying for my school, I pay for all my things. A little help to get me through all this sure would help me out. Its not like I will be living here for years.

Then get the apartment, just get used to living with poorer people.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: fury3
No, I do care. Working the type of job I work sucks. I am paying for my school, I pay for all my things. A little help to get me through all this sure would help me out. Its not like I will be living here for years.

Well, just hope there is no God and no karma, and that taking this welfare doesn't catch the eye of the IRS.

 

[necine]

It's called section 8. You most likely dont qualify.

 

[fury3]

Section 8?

 

[Mojoed]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: fury3
No, I do care. Working the type of job I work sucks. I am paying for my school, I pay for all my things. A little help to get me through all this sure would help me out. Its not like I will be living here for years.

Well, just hope there is no God and no karma, and that taking this welfare doesn't catch the eye of the IRS.

Reading this thread, it sounds like you've already made up your mind, fury3. DaveSimmons stole my thunder and hit the nail on the head with his two posts in this thread. Solid advice. :thumbsup:

For what it's worth, I wouldn't do it.

 

[DAGTA]

I would say don't do it unless you can't afford anywhere else.

 

[mrchan]

Those homes are subsidized for people who NEED them. Don't do it.

 

[fury3]

Please dont think of me as an imoral person. I did create this thread to instigate effective critisizm. I do work hard, I do pay for EVERYTHING I own, do pay for my own schooling. I mean, at $700 for a 2 bedroom, how much is the government really paying?

 

[fury3]

Originally posted by: mrchan
Those homes are subsidized for people who NEED them. Don't do it.

Why dont "I" need them? I dont make a "blank" load of money here.

 

[So]

If you can't really afford other apartments and school, then you 'need' the apartment, wether the paper says you meet the req's or not...

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: fury3

Originally posted by: mrchan
Those homes are subsidized for people who NEED them. Don't do it.

Why dont "I" need them? I dont make a "blank" load of money here.

you basically know you shouldn't do it, you just want AT peeps to help you justify doing it.

either do it or don't quit whining either way.

 

[Mojoed]

Originally posted by: fury3
Please dont think of me as an imoral person. I did create this thread to instigate effective critisizm. I do work hard, I do pay for EVERYTHING I own, do pay for my own schooling. I mean, at $700 for a 2 bedroom, how much is the government really paying?

I don't think anyone is judging you jury3, I'm certainly not. We're just offering advice. As far as hard work and paying for everything, that's a good thing. Far too many people in this country don't do what you do, thus depend on Uncle Sam. However, it still doesn't make it right to bend your income numbers in order to qualify for subsidized housing.

I'd take your dad's advice.

 

[fury3]

Wow, complete jerk you are. I am new around these woods, and have noticed alot of the TOP people being the TOP jerks. I do feel morally wrong about this. However, I need to save as much money as possible nowadays, I mean, I spend a HELL OF ALOT OF MONEY driving to class every single day, that doesnt come out of my taxes, so I think thats justifying the cost right there.


THIS WAS REFERRED TO PLATINUMGOLD, not you mojoed