LILO and NTFS XFS??

[DaveR]

I just picked up one of the $9.99 120GB WD drives (other forum) and wonder if LILO will work with Xp NTFS and Debian XFS? I assume XP goes on first.

 

[cleverhandle]

It will work fine - just use the "other=" entry in LILO.

 

[DaveR]

Originally posted by: cleverhandle
It will work fine - just use the "other=" entry in LILO.

OK, I will see what needs to be there for NTFS. I think if I install Debian first, XP will then kill the MBR.

 

[TheOmegaCode]

Just remember that if MS isn't the first "OS" on the disk, it throws a bitch fit and wont boot.

 

[DaveR]

Originally posted by: TheOmegaCode
Just remember that if MS isn't the first "OS" on the disk, it throws a bitch fit and wont boot.

So I need to install Xp first on this new disk before Debian?

 

[TheOmegaCode]

Originally posted by: DaveR

Originally posted by: TheOmegaCode
Just remember that if MS isn't the first "OS" on the disk, it throws a bitch fit and wont boot.

So I need to install Xp first on this new disk before Debian?

Yes, unless by some wicked act of fate, I'm completely wrong or you're some sort of sick masochist...

I know that in my experience, it's easier if you just install Windows first then Linux. About 99% of the time, Linux will pick up that Windows is there and automatically (or ask to) list it in the MBR.

BTW, there's an Anandtech FAQ on dual booting Win/Linux...

 

[cleverhandle]

Originally posted by: TheOmegaCode
I know that in my experience, it's easier if you just install Windows first then Linux.

Easier, but not required. Windows XP and 2000 do not need to be on the first partition. Strictly speaking, neither does 98, but that involves a lot more trickery to get working correctly. The only issue with installing XP/2000 after Linux is that they tend to overwrite the MBR, rendering Linux unbootable unless you've got a boot disk.

DaveR - I suggest you read up on the PC boot process. Once you understand it (and it's not really very difficult), configuring multi-boot machines becomes a simple process rather than voodoo techniques. Most Linux installation guides have a half-way decent section. Also check out linky1 and linky2.

 

[DaveR]

Great...I will look. I have Partition Magic so I can play a little.

 

[drag]

The Partition magic is just a stop gap. I wouldn't use it unless I had to, moving partitions is a risky thing at best. If you use it (it's a fine product, I am not knocking it) be sure to back up

If you want to have windows installed along with Linux it's usually best to install the more primitive OS's first, in this case XP since MS doesn't give a damn about multiboot and it's the most b***ch-A**.

And it's a general rule that windows must be isntalled on the first partition, or it'll throw a fit.

However if you use Grub (which is a much more advanced boot manager compared to Lilo of NT boot loader) you can trick windows into thinking it is realy on the first partition.'

here is a link describing the proccess, it's not as hard as it seems and even though this is for win98 it should work for any NT-style OS

But of course if you work from a clean slate it will give you the best results to install windows first, and use Lilo or grub to do the multiboot. Be sure to make boot floppies too.

 

[iam29a]

I stopped using bootloaders altogether when I started buying more robust motherboards a year ago. Now, I can boot with off of the HD0/1/2/3 ATA100 controller, or any of the drives on the Highpoint RAID controller. Although there are other boot options, I've not used them (not even the floppy). When I need to, a quick and simple BIOS manipulation work perfectly.

Previously, I would install Linux after windows, but on occasion I would install Windows after Linux. What protected me was that I always installed LILO onto the floppy where Windows was quite ignorant.

 

[DaveR]

Thanks all...may look at Grub. I, too, can boot cd from bios, but hate to go into bios and change it when I want to do this. I had a bigger issue last night however!

DEBIAN does not like my Promise Ultra100. I removed the hard drives from the Soyo with ATA66 on MoBo and installed the blank drive on a new Promise controller. I did not get off the ground with Debian as it needed a driver disk for the controller. It said no disk drives found!

I tried RH and MDK to be sure all was OK and it was. Now I need to find a way to make the Debian find a driver! I have a system in another room, and it found the Promise Ultra33 OK.

Not sure if I need to specify some kind of option during install?

 

[Flatline]

I like Grub a lot, and it's pretty easy to set up a Windows boot in the grub.conf file:

hd (0,0)
chainloader +1

Just a side note...Drag, your typing has gotten better in the last couple of days!

So, which is it...are you drinking more or sleeping less? :wine:😉