Like the GEL? - Android 4.4 Kit Kat to released to N7 and N10 Today

Roland00Address

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It is not a rumor, it is an actual first party source.

But it will be a staged release with google deciding who gets the update now, who gets it tomorrow, etc.

You can't just push update in your settings.
 

jacktesterson

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It is not a rumor, it is an actual first party source.

But it will be a staged release with google deciding who gets the update now, who gets it tomorrow, etc.

You can't just push update in your settings.

Yeah I realize that.

I'm sure it will be on XDA soon for those who want to try the complete stock experience today rather than waiting for the update to hit.
 

kpkp

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My question - Is the new Google Launcher going to be included? (I'll prob end up going back to Nova anyways but would like to look at it)
No. Or better said, it is new but it looks more like the old.
But you can side load it… But there it seems to be an annoying bug that always pops up the keyboard at the home screen.
 

jacktesterson

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I hope this isn't a trend - Google designing specific things for specific devices. (like this launcher only on the N5)

I could see it if it was a specific Cell phone feature vs Tablet, but I like Nexus devices for always getting the newest stock experience. (I then add the features I want via custom roms)

I'm sure the new launcher will be working bug free soon to try out by sideloading as said above.
 

kpkp

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I am thinking the main reason is that they don't want confuse the upgrading users with the new UI. And for the non US/ENG markets google now isn't that useful/impressive… I am happy that I can keep my home screen in the center since for me that is more valuable that Google now being accessible in 2 (different) instead of 1 simple gesture.

I was thinking why they don't ship with both launchers, since now the switching is really simple.
 
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openwheel

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That's BS if they decided to skip the new launcher for Nexus 4/7/10.

WTF Google?
 

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Not on the LTE version yet
 

tential

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Why won't they just let you use the "Check for Updates" function.... That's really annoying right now.
 

Tsavo

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Why won't they just let you use the "Check for Updates" function.... That's really annoying right now.

Just to a manual flash. It doesn't take long.

It's pretty slick, speedy, and the GEL sideload makes it feel quite a bit nicer.
 

jacktesterson

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Any idea when the OTA option is available?

My Nexus 10 is still waiting - Thinking about doing it manually but was thinking it'd just happen through OTA
 

Ravynmagi

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Seems like when I push my "Check Now" button more than 10 times, I should automatically be added to the top priority list for getting the OTA update.
 

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I flashed it to my Nexus 4 as soon as I saw that the image was available (and as soon as I figured out how to use the Android SDK and get it to recognize my device on Windows 8...). It is working pretty well so far, and I've even been using ART instead of Dalvik. Can't say that I have noticed too much of a difference in that regard, though Firefox perhaps launches quicker.

As for my Nexus 7... Well, it slid off of a shelf into the tub with me when I was taking a bath and trying to relieve some back pain the day before the update started rolling out, so it won't be getting the update anytime soon.

I hope this isn't a trend - Google designing specific things for specific devices. (like this launcher only on the N5)

I could see it if it was a specific Cell phone feature vs Tablet, but I like Nexus devices for always getting the newest stock experience. (I then add the features I want via custom roms).

Now that I'm in the market for a tablet again, I feel like I will hold off until something reasonably priced with a Snapdragon 800 comes along, which could hopefully support the new launcher. Nexus 8/10 or something from Motorola, perhaps. I was hoping my Nexus 7 would hold me over for awhile longer to make the wait less painful, but... Anyway. I'm disinclined to purchase the newer Nexus 7, given that Google isn't updating it with the Google Experience Launcher.
 
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Tsavo

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Anyway. I'm disinclined to purchase the newer Nexus 7, given that Google isn't updating it with the Google Experience Launcher.

You can load the GEL apk's for that. I have it on my 2013 N7, and it works like a charm.
 

sweenish

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It's also not part of stock Android. People should stop confusing the two. GEL is proprietary. And I'm sure it will launch soon for other Nexus devices at a minimum, even though it should run on all 4.1+ devices.

It's way too early to be throwing fits about this.
 

Shackanaw

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You can load the GEL apk's for that. I have it on my 2013 N7, and it works like a charm.

My concerns are a bit more complicated. Just enough fear, uncertainty and doubt to keep me from pulling the trigger on another Nexus 7 until I see how things work out. And, I suppose some of this is shaded by the fact that I was bitten by a bug in the 4.2 update for my 2012 Nexus 7 that ruined automatic brightness and was never addressed despite a very long thread in their support forums.

I see it somewhat as Google trying to have their cake and eat it, too regarding their 18 months of support for their Nexus devices. They'll update you to the latest version of Android, but they aren't going to do much in the way of bugfixing, optimization, or finding workarounds for simple issues. They'll save their time and effort by focusing on their latest hardware alone, and get the joy of including exclusive features that encourage people to upgrade to a new device rather than waiting the full 18 months. Again, this isn't just about the GEL, but the automatic brightness issue (which they never seem to have officially acknowledged), or ignoring the 2012 Nexus 7 performance issues for a full year before finally adding TRIM support, or the problems with Nexus 4s being caught in a bootup loop with the 4.3 update.

The 2013 Nexus 7 hasn't even been out 4 months yet, but it isn't being officially supported with some substantial features. Some of those features might merit exclusion, such as the "OK, Google" hotword detection running whenever you are on a homescreen, since the Snapdragon 800 in the Nexus 5 is one of the few SoCs that can offload the voice recognition to specialized hardware, thus reducing power consumption. And I suppose that I have to include the translucent status and navigation bars which apparently performed poorly on the Nexus 10. That said, the other features, such as drag-and-drop reordering of homescreens, Google Now occupying the leftmost homescreen and always running (I understand that there is no delay to launch it, because it is already a part of the homescreen) are substantial features, and don't seem to me to be the sort of things which would substantially increase the system requirements.

Even the voice recognition would have a simple workaround. Seeing as it has been integrated into Google Now for awhile now, and runs whenever you launch Google Now, it seems to me that they could just activate it as soon as you swipe to the leftmost homescreen on hardware which cannot handle it being activated all of the time on every homescreen.

If this were fingerprint scanning, IR support, or 64-bit extensions, which are all things which cannot be worked around, I would understand. When it comes down to (I should say if it comes down to, since they might reverse course in the future) being unwilling to code simple workarounds to support those who've bought your most recent tablets, I get a bit frustrated.

Anyway, I do like my Nexus devices, and I am glad that I do have Android updates, but they are not doing a very good job addressing issues with individual devices. They are acting like they are experimental or developmental devices which can be ignored whenever something new comes along. But they are selling them as consumer devices, and for the most part, I am fine with that. But don't pretend that Android is all the love a device needs. You need to do some device-specific bug fixing and optimization, too.

And with that, I am going to stop rewriting and just post this rant.
 
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