Lightning kills 5 Mexican children in prayer

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abeal2

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a dolphin saves a drowning child and everyone praises God and calls it a miracle. Lightning bolt kills 5 children while they were PRAYING and everyone says it's "all part of his greater plan." regardless of what the event may be and how negative it may seem, having faith and believing in his plan is a fail-safe excuse for God.

thinking that a tsunami that wipes out hundreds of thousands of people is 100% a good thing seems kind of ignorant to me. it doesn't make sense for God to kill that many people and for all of us to believe that it's "all part of the plan." This "Faith" that we have seems similar to the faith that the Aztecs had back in the days where they thought they had to sacrifice blood every morning in order for the sun to rise.

what if humans look at God the same way animals look at humans. if an animal thinks that we're god and that whenever a car runs over a squirrel is all "part of the plan," then maybe we're making the same mistake with Jesus/Allah/etc. just a thought.
 
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See.. they are really in a better place.. he took them all to Heaven right now because he knew they were going to turn away from Him in the future .. so he saved them now.. :)
 
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conehead433

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So you believe God controls the weather to his greater purpose? That same sort of logic is used by people claiming Katrina was sent by God. Remember the old bumper sticker Stuff Happens, especially random acts by mother nature. Because they were praying you believe God did it? Praying on top of a hill next to a metal object with any kind of thunderstorm or lightning activity anywhere close isn't too smart. On the other hand some could make that case that God answers prayers for some sooner than others and these five are now in heaven.
 
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Moonbeam

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Five dead children. Oh, God, how I hurt. Oh, God, you crucify me as you crucified yourself.
 
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Originally posted by: conehead433
So you believe God controls the weather to his greater purpose? That same sort of logic is used by people claiming Katrina was sent by God. Remember the old bumper sticker Stuff Happens, especially random acts by mother nature. Because they were praying you believe God did it? Praying on top of a hill next to a metal object with any kind of thunderstorm or lightning activity anywhere close isn't too smart. On the other hand some could make that case that God answers prayers for some sooner than others and these five are now in heaven.
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So, you are saying that God doesn't protect dumb people?
 
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Gamer X

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There is good and evil in this life, Pure good is in the afterlife. To think that God will only take adults is ridiculous; people will just die at any age.
 
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Meuge

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: conehead433
So you believe God controls the weather to his greater purpose? That same sort of logic is used by people claiming Katrina was sent by God. Remember the old bumper sticker Stuff Happens, especially random acts by mother nature. Because they were praying you believe God did it? Praying on top of a hill next to a metal object with any kind of thunderstorm or lightning activity anywhere close isn't too smart. On the other hand some could make that case that God answers prayers for some sooner than others and these five are now in heaven.
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So, you are saying that God doesn't protect dumb people?
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There is a good joke out there:

One day there was this preacher and he was having his usual sermon when all of a sudden it started raining, really, really, hard!!!! After about 1 full hour of complete non-stop rain, they started making evacuations because the whole church was flooding, but the preacher just stood there in the ankle-deep water.

A guy in a car came up to him and said. "Preacher,Preacher you better get in here before you drown!"

But the preacher just replied "Don't worry God will save me."

The man then said "Whatever!" and drove away.

The water was now knee-deep and a guy in a raft came over to the Preacher and said "Preacher, Preacher you better get in here before you drown!"

Despite the second warning the Preacher just stood there and replied "Don't worry God will save me."

The man then said "Whatever!!" and rowed away in the orange raft.

The water was now waist-deep and a guy in a power boat came to the Preacher and said "Preacher,Preacher you better get in here before you drown!"

Despite the third warning the Preacher just stood there and replied "Don't worry God will save me."

With that the man said "Whatever!" and jetted away in the power boat.

The water was now neck-deep and a guy in a helicopter came and said "Preacher, Preacher you better get your butt in here before you drown!!"

The man still just stood there and replied "Don't worry God will save me." And with that the man said "Whatever" and flew away.

The water then got so deep that the Preacher was sucked under and died. When he opened his eyes he noticed that he was in heaven. He then saw God and asked "God! Why didn't you save me from that horrible flood?!?"

God then replied, " I sent you a car,a raft,a power boat, and a helicopter!!! What else do you want from me?"
 
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Originally posted by: abeal2
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12467604/

a dolphin saves a drowning child and everyone praises God and calls it a miracle. Lightning bolt kills 5 children while they were PRAYING and everyone says it's "all part of his greater plan." regardless of what the event may be and how negative it may seem, having faith and believing in his plan is a fail-safe excuse for God.

thinking that a tsunami that wipes out hundreds of thousands of people is 100% a good thing seems kind of ignorant to me. it doesn't make sense for God to kill that many people and for all of us to believe that it's "all part of the plan." This "Faith" that we have seems similar to the faith that the Aztecs had back in the days where they thought they had to sacrifice blood every morning in order for the sun to rise.

what if humans look at God the same way animals look at humans. if an animal thinks that we're god and that whenever a car runs over a squirrel is all "part of the plan," then maybe we're making the same mistake with Jesus/Allah/etc. just a thought.
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In death and life God we have an image of absolute or true death and life which are an opposition to God and a participation in the goodness of God respectively. God can be said to be active in physical deaths and physical saving of life if we see beyond deaths to our lack of the eternal and beyond the saving of life to the grace of God which saves us. Strictly these things do not depend on what goes on in the world, but what goes on in the world points us to them, and so we can say that God we can say that God uses these things to show us the eternal truth. Thus God works in all things, both happy and unhappy as we would consider them.
 
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Maybe God knew that 2 of the kids were gay, one was pro-abortion, and the other two were someday going to own a business selling "marital aids".
 
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What are the chances that they were praying for a lightning strike?


Please Lord, give us a charge in our lives, make us into human dynamos.



Snap . . . Crackle . . . Pop . . .
 
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spikespiegal

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Sounds a wee bit cruel, but I believe we have a new entrant for the 'Darwin Awards' given it was a metal cross on a hill in a thunderstorm.

 
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OFFascist

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Part of God's plan was to give humans free will.

So literally everything that we do our allow to happen to us is part of his plan.
 
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abeal2

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Originally posted by: techs
Maybe God knew that 2 of the kids were gay, one was pro-abortion, and the other two were someday going to own a business selling "marital aids".
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hhaha
 
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Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Sounds a wee bit cruel, but I believe we have a new entrant for the 'Darwin Awards' given it was a metal cross on a hill in a thunderstorm.
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There should be more sermons on hilltops with iron crosses, especially during thunderstorms :D
 
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