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TitanDiddly

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
This is really gonna mess up a lot of religious people...

What, it's impossible that God made bacteria on Mars? It'd be seeing things walking around that would scare me.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Wow you guys are really good! Who would have thought that a potential Life on Mars thread could have been turned into yet another ATOT religion bashing session.:roll:

Actually I'm quite impressed with how civil it has remained. :)
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: conjur
Jeez, people.

The Bible was NOT meant to be a scientific resource. It's only purpose is to tell a story...to broadcast a message.

Why do people take the Bible so literally, esp. the Old Testament???

:roll:

This is your view, but it's certainly not the view of those who subscribe to the idea of it representing absolute truth. Literalists and obfuscationists (as I shall call them) alike feel it represents a description of reality, and so as a result they seek affirmation of this description in observations. So many observations that were antithetical to the doctrine resulted in most literalists abandoning their commitment and instead assimilating the idea of an interpretation that was congruent with observations. I believe this answers your question.

I have a personal philosophy on all of these matters, but I try to remain committed to expressing only the views of the apparent dichotomy: Those who subscribe to a theological doctrine for their foundational description of reality, and those who subscribe to the physical.

No, it's not my view. It's how it is.

Think of it this way. All ancient cultures had creation stories and other tales of how things happened in the physical world (Greeks, Romans, Chinese, Native Americans, Jews, Aztec, Mayans, etc.) They all told stories and created "reasons" to explain things they did not understand. All early cultures share that aspect.

Why, out of all of the early cultures, is the Jewish version (and spawning from that, Christianity and Islam) the only credible one? It's illogical.
Good post!
 

DurocShark

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Apr 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: conjur
Jeez, people.

The Bible was NOT meant to be a scientific resource. It's only purpose is to tell a story...to broadcast a message.

Why do people take the Bible so literally, esp. the Old Testament???

:roll:

This is your view, but it's certainly not the view of those who subscribe to the idea of it representing absolute truth. Literalists and obfuscationists (as I shall call them) alike feel it represents a description of reality, and so as a result they seek affirmation of this description in observations. So many observations that were antithetical to the doctrine resulted in most literalists abandoning their commitment and instead assimilating the idea of an interpretation that was congruent with observations. I believe this answers your question.

I have a personal philosophy on all of these matters, but I try to remain committed to expressing only the views of the apparent dichotomy: Those who subscribe to a theological doctrine for their foundational description of reality, and those who subscribe to the physical.

No, it's not my view. It's how it is.

Think of it this way. All ancient cultures had creation stories and other tales of how things happened in the physical world (Greeks, Romans, Chinese, Native Americans, Jews, Aztec, Mayans, etc.) They all told stories and created "reasons" to explain things they did not understand. All early cultures share that aspect.

Why, out of all of the early cultures, is the Jewish version (and spawning from that, Christianity and Islam) the only credible one? It's illogical.
Good post!

Take it a step further... Many stories in the bible (both old and new testaments) are blatently ripped off from earlier cultures. But, hey, only Jews and Christians can claim them now, right? :roll:

I've always viewed the bible (and all additions including the gnostic texts and the LDS chapters) as a history book with morals. The history is semi-accurate, especially in the New Testament, so just keeping in mind it was physically written by MEN (you can say by God's intervention all you want, it was still MEN putting pen to paper) who are easily fooled or have an agenda, will allow people to enjoy the Bible for it's true contents. I do read it every so often, among other religious texts.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: maziwanka
the only explanation for ammonia on mars is life on mars?

That's rediculous. Jupiter is full of ammonia.

Jupiter != Mars in case you didn't quite realize that.

Ammonia stays around in Jupiter's atmosphere indefinitely. It doesn't do so on Mars. The ammonia is destroyed quite quickly. Thus, the only reason there could be ammonia there is if it is being replenished constantly. This can only happen in 2 known ways: 1. Volcanic eruptions of which we haven't seen many on Mars and 2. Life.