Life on Mars to be announced by NASA this Friday (July 23rd.)

OutHouse

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Richard C. Hoagland offered updates on several topics. He suggested that with the discovery of ammonia on Mars, that there would soon (as early as Friday the 23rd) be an announcement that the only explanation for this is that there is currently living biology on that planet. Evidence also indicates that we may be looking at long cycle seasons, and a return of the green areas that Lowell saw along with the canals, he said.
 

So

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I hate to say it, but I really hope not, any life will mean that the greenies can stymie any development of mars for human use. :(
 

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Ive seen on current imagery what appears to be plant life on Mars
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: maziwanka
the only explanation for ammonia on mars is life on mars?

yip

But wait... evolutionary theory says that before life on earth, the atmosphere was composed of mostly nitrogen, argon, and ammonia. :confused:

Yeah, so this is bull.
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Richard C. Hoagland offered updates on several topics. He suggested that with the discovery of ammonia on Mars, that there would soon (as early as Friday the 23rd) be an announcement that the only explanation for this is that there is currently living biology on that planet. Evidence also indicates that we may be looking at long cycle seasons, and a return of the green areas that Lowell saw along with the canals, he said.

Uhm, but the canals are a proven nonentity. :confused:

No source, no backing, no care.
 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: So
I hate to say it, but I really hope not, any life will mean that the greenies can stymie any development of mars for human use. :(

wouldnt they be 'reddies'?
 

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from ammonia to life...that's quite a jump. i find it to be another ploy to encourage government funding of Mars exploration.(which I believe in strongly anyway). even if they found crude amino acid structures, I'd be doubtful. Now if they found genetic material...
 

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Originally posted by: maziwanka
the only explanation for ammonia on mars is life on mars?

Yes, it means the cleaning lady left her spray bottle there.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: Citrix
Richard C. Hoagland offered updates on several topics. He suggested that with the discovery of ammonia on Mars, that there would soon (as early as Friday the 23rd) be an announcement that the only explanation for this is that there is currently living biology on that planet. Evidence also indicates that we may be looking at long cycle seasons, and a return of the green areas that Lowell saw along with the canals, he said.

Uhm, but the canals are a proven nonentity. :confused:

No source, no backing, no care.

Are you a scientist with access to all of the information the people making this announcement have?

I wasn't aware that NASA scientists were members on this forum. :confused:
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
This is really gonna mess up a lot of religious people...

You would think, but many so-called creation scientists are willing to accept the idea that Mars once collided with Earth; this would facilitate the transfer of biotics from Earth to Mars. This retains the idea that life originated on Earth, solely exists on Earth, and any existence of it elsewhere is merely happenstance.

Most would agree this is nonsense for obvious reasons, but if you wish to know more you can read Creator and the Cosmos.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: Citrix
Richard C. Hoagland offered updates on several topics. He suggested that with the discovery of ammonia on Mars, that there would soon (as early as Friday the 23rd) be an announcement that the only explanation for this is that there is currently living biology on that planet. Evidence also indicates that we may be looking at long cycle seasons, and a return of the green areas that Lowell saw along with the canals, he said.

Uhm, but the canals are a proven nonentity. :confused:

No source, no backing, no care.

Are you a scientist with access to all of the information the people making this announcement have?

I wasn't aware that NASA scientists were members on this forum. :confused:

Umm, it's been known for a long time that what Lowell saw was a result of two things: His overwhelming imagination and belief that intelligent life existed on Mars, and the optical illusion of his relatively low-resolution optics. Simply Google around for more information.
 

djheater

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This thread is useless without links.

I haven't been keeping up with this. Point me to a site where I can read more please.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Richard C. Hoagland offered updates on several topics. He suggested that with the discovery of ammonia on Mars, that there would soon (as early as Friday the 23rd) be an announcement that the only explanation for this is that there is currently living biology on that planet. Evidence also indicates that we may be looking at long cycle seasons, and a return of the green areas that Lowell saw along with the canals, he said.

Um, Richard C. Hoagland does NOT work for NASA.
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
This is really gonna mess up a lot of religious people...

Not really..... until you find life itself, not the compositions required for life, the debate is still open :p
 

clamum

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: MacBaine
This is really gonna mess up a lot of religious people...

You would think, but many so-called creation scientists are willing to accept the idea that Mars once collided with Earth; this would facilitate the transfer of biotics from Earth to Mars. This retains the idea that life originated on Earth, solely exists on Earth, and any existence of it elsewhere is merely happenstance.

Most would agree this is nonsense for obvious reasons, but if you wish to know more you can read Creator and the Cosmos.

They'll make up or back whatever just so it doesn't conflict with their religion, which of course isn't wrong.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: gururu
from ammonia to life...that's quite a jump. i find it to be another ploy to encourage government funding of Mars exploration.(which I believe in strongly anyway). even if they found crude amino acid structures, I'd be doubtful. Now if they found genetic material...


no its not a jump. Ammonia has a very short life span, for the amount of ammonia found in the atmosphere it has to be coming from something. The only thing that produces ammonia are living things.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Citrix
Richard C. Hoagland offered updates on several topics. He suggested that with the discovery of ammonia on Mars, that there would soon (as early as Friday the 23rd) be an announcement that the only explanation for this is that there is currently living biology on that planet. Evidence also indicates that we may be looking at long cycle seasons, and a return of the green areas that Lowell saw along with the canals, he said.

Um, Richard C. Hoagland does NOT work for NASA.

Yeah the quack-factor of the google summaries is pretty high there....


:(
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: MacBaine
This is really gonna mess up a lot of religious people...

You would think, but many so-called creation scientists are willing to accept the idea that Mars once collided with Earth; this would facilitate the transfer of biotics from Earth to Mars. This retains the idea that life originated on Earth, solely exists on Earth, and any existence of it elsewhere is merely happenstance.

Most would agree this is nonsense for obvious reasons, but if you wish to know more you can read Creator and the Cosmos.

"Creation scientists" (and it pains me to add "scientist" to that label..) are willing to come up with ANY hairbrained ideas to support their silly image of how life came to be.