MotionMan
Lifer
- Jan 11, 2006
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I say we just have a mandatory death penalty for any crime. Don't wanna die don't commit a crime.
Wesley Crusher would not approve.
MotionMan
I say we just have a mandatory death penalty for any crime. Don't wanna die don't commit a crime.
if he lives 40 years this will cost NY millions over 1 million dollars.
if he lives 40 years this will cost NY millions over 1 million dollars.
Not if they put him to work like the good old days.
They don't. lifers have little incentive to work and cooperate within the system even if they did.
What didn't he understand after the 1st and 2nd conviction?
I don't care what "incentive" you have.
You are in jail, you work to contribute back to the society whos social contract you violated.
I never really understood why (mostly liberal states) allow their prisoners to sit in a cell and watch TV all day while eating 3 meals per day.
Its prison not a daycare.
Joe Arpaio has it right with the bologna sandwiches.
how do you propose they "make" someone work within the confines of US laws?
You put them to work. If they don't work, they don't earn their food. They will work. If not, they will die and the world would then be a slightly better place.
no they will just strong arm someone else that did work for their food or get by on commissary
Commissary? They going to eat a concept?
So, you are going to try to make my company hire the rehabbed crackhead over a law-abiding citizen with no record of trouble? Why would any company do that? Subsidize his pay? But then you are back to him costing the taxpayers anyway.
And who is going to be liable when the rehab fails, as it surely will, and the crackhead commits a crime while employed by me?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_commissary
and with that this convo is over you clearly lack any understanding of prison life, not that I'm an expert but you don't even have a grasp on the fundamentals.
Yes but that would just be a concept. You can't buy food that isn't there with money that you don't have.
You obviously don't get the point that this would be a change of how things currently work.[/Q]
Again with current U.S. law that wouldn't be legal. If you are going to disband U.S. law for criminals then just put them on an island or some other massive gated space and let them figure it out themselves why have any input at all.
Yes but that would just be a concept. You can't buy food that isn't there with money that you don't have.
You obviously don't get the point that this would be a change of how things currently work.[/Q]
Again with current U.S. law that wouldn't be legal. If you are going to disband U.S. law for criminals then just put them on an island or some other massive gated space and let them figure it out themselves why have any input at all.
Obviously we aren't trying to suggest that the solutions to the problem work with current laws or current setup of prisons.
Biggest bunch of bullshit ever. Guy goes from a shitty life to a guaranteed 3 squares a day and a roof over his head so long as he doesn't get shanked.
I realize that not everyone had the same opportunities I did growing up but after two strikes something serious had to be done to set an example for the younger generations.
All offenders who get to three strikes should be forced to work in the coal mines, crop fields, or anything other jobs where outside labor is brought in. Prison should be something like the gulag in soviet russia where you would rather die then get sent there.
Obviously we aren't trying to suggest that the solutions to the problem work with current laws or current setup of prisons.
It wasn't obvious. But yeah if you can disregard U.S. law just about anything else is a better solution than the current one.
Looks like a win.What would you give them to harvest coal and crops? You can't expect someone with nothing to live for to be trusted with tools. They would just kill each other all day.
What would you give them to harvest coal and crops? You can't expect someone with nothing to live for to be trusted with tools. They would just kill each other all day.
I don't see the problem there.
So then skip to the chase just make everything punishable by death.
