Lieberman to speak at GOP convention.

[techs]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/gop_convention

Democrat-turned-independent Sen. Joe Lieberman also will take center stage at the GOP gathering.



So, I guess Lieberman is now a Republican. He must really be hoping for the VP nod from McCain, or a Cabinet post if McCain wins. Because if he stays in Congress on the day the new Senate convenes in 2009 Lieberman will be radioactive to the Dems who will control the Senate.
Personally, I am kinda hoping McCain picks him as the VP candidate because he would seriously hurt McCain, and not add even one state to McCains list.

 

[nageov3t]

isn't Hagel speaking at the DNC convention?

 

[fskimospy]

He's definitely angling for a McCain cabinet post at a minimum. He knows his future in the Democratic party is toast and that this is his last term in the senate. (his poll numbers in Connetticut have tanked if I remember right) With that in mind, what are his other options?

 

[lupi]

Welcome to 6 hours ago. "Libermann has accepted a speach position at the repub convention"

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: techs
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So, I guess Lieberman is now a Republican.

He caucuses with the Dems.

And like others have said, he's probably going to get a cabinet position.

After all the Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Brownie etc. stuff, I've often thought in this race it might be a good idea for the candidates to name some of their preferred cabinet positions.

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: techs
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So, I guess Lieberman is now a Republican.

He caucuses with the Dems.

And like others have said, he's probably going to get a cabinet position.

After all the Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Brownie etc. stuff, I've often thought in this race it might be a good idea for the candidates to name some of their preferred cabinet positions.

Fern

It will be interesting to see what happens after this election. He's certainly praying for McCain to win, because he's fucked after November. Since the Democrats are almost certain to enlarge their majorities, if/when they do there's a really good chance he will be stripped of his chairmanships and most of his power. You don't shit on your political party like he has and get away with it.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: techs
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So, I guess Lieberman is now a Republican.

He caucuses with the Dems.

And like others have said, he's probably going to get a cabinet position.

After all the Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Brownie etc. stuff, I've often thought in this race it might be a good idea for the candidates to name some of their preferred cabinet positions.

Fern

It will be interesting to see what happens after this election. He's certainly praying for McCain to win, because he's fucked after November. Since the Democrats are almost certain to enlarge their majorities, if/when they do there's a really good chance he will be stripped of his chairmanships and most of his power. You don't shit on your political party like he has and get away with it.

Indeed. I actually don't like the mindset behind punishing someone for not going with the crowd, but the political reality is that the Democrats need to do more of that. Republicans are GREAT at getting everyone march in step, and the fact that the Democrats aren't hurts them.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: techs
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So, I guess Lieberman is now a Republican.

He caucuses with the Dems.

And like others have said, he's probably going to get a cabinet position.

After all the Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Brownie etc. stuff, I've often thought in this race it might be a good idea for the candidates to name some of their preferred cabinet positions.

Fern

It will be interesting to see what happens after this election. He's certainly praying for McCain to win, because he's fucked after November. Since the Democrats are almost certain to enlarge their majorities, if/when they do there's a really good chance he will be stripped of his chairmanships and most of his power. You don't shit on your political party like he has and get away with it.

Oh right lieberman shit on the democrats? A little revisionist if you ask me. After denying him a democrat ticket in his last senate race he ran as an independent and spanked the democrat who ran in his place.

If he really wanted to shit on the noble democrat party who left him out to dry. He could have declared himself voting with the republicans and given them the majority in the senate for the last 2 years, denying democrats control of the comittee's. Democrat should be kissing this guys ass for not truely fucking them over considering how much they tried to fuck him.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Indeed. I actually don't like the mindset behind punishing someone for not going with the crowd, but the political reality is that the Democrats need to do more of that. Republicans are GREAT at getting everyone march in step, and the fact that the Democrats aren't hurts them.

I'm not in favor of punishing people for having policy differences either, but Lieberman has taken it way too far. Endorsing the opposition party's presidential candidate and speaking at their nominating convention is too much to ignore.

As far as the Republicans being better at getting everyone to march together that's true, but I think they also have a more monolithic party then the Democrats do, so it's a lot easier.

 

[jpeyton]

America's Mayor, Rudolph "Nine-Eleven" Giuliani announced he is giving the keynote at the GOP convention.

I hear they are turning the entire stage into a reconstruction of ground zero. :laugh:

As a bonus, the theme of the convention will be "prosperity" and "peace". Something John McBush will deliver in spades.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: techs
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So, I guess Lieberman is now a Republican.

He caucuses with the Dems.

And like others have said, he's probably going to get a cabinet position.

After all the Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Brownie etc. stuff, I've often thought in this race it might be a good idea for the candidates to name some of their preferred cabinet positions.

Fern

It will be interesting to see what happens after this election. He's certainly praying for McCain to win, because he's fucked after November. Since the Democrats are almost certain to enlarge their majorities, if/when they do there's a really good chance he will be stripped of his chairmanships and most of his power. You don't shit on your political party like he has and get away with it.

Oh right lieberman shit on the democrats? A little revisionist if you ask me. After denying him a democrat ticket in his last senate race he ran as an independent and spanked the democrat who ran in his place.

If he really wanted to shit on the noble democrat party who left him out to dry. He could have declared himself voting with the republicans and given them the majority in the senate for the last 2 years, denying democrats control of the comittee's. Democrat should be kissing this guys ass for not truely fucking them over considering how much they tried to fuck him.

Wow, talk about revisionist history.

What do you mean 'denying him a spot on the ticket'? He lost in the primary. Are you trying to say that the Democrats should have ignored the primary results and put him on anyway? How insane would that be?

In his campaign platform he explicitly promised Connetticut voters that he would caucus with the Democrats. Do you think he actually would have won if he had said otherwise? (of course he also said he would work to elect a Democrat president in 2008... oops!) The Democratic party did nothing to fuck him, the voters in the Democratic primary didn't want him and the party followed the will of the voters. If that's 'fucking him', you're crazy.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
-snip-
It will be interesting to see what happens after this election. He's certainly praying for McCain to win, because he's fucked after November. Since the Democrats are almost certain to enlarge their majorities, if/when they do there's a really good chance he will be stripped of his chairmanships and most of his power. You don't shit on your political party like he has and get away with it.

I agree with the part about him potentially losing power.

But IMO the Dems crapped on him 1st.

Originally posted by: Rainsford
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Republicans are GREAT at getting everyone march in step, and the fact that the Democrats aren't hurts them.

Like James Jeffords?

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fern

But IMO the Dems crapped on him 1st.

I simply do not understand how the Democrats crapped on him first.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Fern
...

Originally posted by: Rainsford
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Republicans are GREAT at getting everyone march in step, and the fact that the Democrats aren't hurts them.

Like James Jeffords?

Fern

I didn't say there weren't examples of Republicans jumping ship, but when it comes to toeing the party line, I think Republicans have a big advantage there.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: techs
-snip-
So, I guess Lieberman is now a Republican.

He caucuses with the Dems.

And like others have said, he's probably going to get a cabinet position.

After all the Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Brownie etc. stuff, I've often thought in this race it might be a good idea for the candidates to name some of their preferred cabinet positions.

Fern

It will be interesting to see what happens after this election. He's certainly praying for McCain to win, because he's fucked after November. Since the Democrats are almost certain to enlarge their majorities, if/when they do there's a really good chance he will be stripped of his chairmanships and most of his power. You don't shit on your political party like he has and get away with it.

OTOH, he's friends with Harry Reid... I certainly wouldn't want to be Joe Lieberman on November 6th, but if his caucus is the difference between a filibuster proof majority or not, I'm sure he'll be doing just fine... hell, I think he'll probably be doing just fine anyways unless the dems want to start off their new "we control all of washington" regime by playing the same hardball games with their members that the reps did.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: loki8481

OTOH, he's friends with Harry Reid... I certainly wouldn't want to be Joe Lieberman on November 6th, but if his caucus is the difference between a filibuster proof majority or not, I'm sure he'll be doing just fine... hell, I think he'll probably be doing just fine anyways unless the dems want to start off their new "we control all of washington" regime by playing the same hardball games with their members that the reps did.

Well the caucus is mainly good for organizing the chamber, people are still free to vote however they want on individual issues. I don't see Lieberman suddenly changing his stripes on issues and so I don't really see him being consequential to a 'filibuster proof majority'.

 

[Vette73]

If the dems have 49 seats, or 50 with McCain as Prez, or 59 then Libermna will be coming back to the senate with open ar,s from the Dems. But if the Dems have 50+ setas without McCaain as Prez then I bet he loses his chair position.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

But IMO the Dems crapped on him 1st.

I simply do not understand how the Democrats crapped on him first.

Oh I don't know... maybe supporting his opponent(or being neutral) in the primary he lost?

Sheesh, do you people really not remember what happened in his race?

 

[umbrella39]

I had the misfortune of waiting on Kwame Kilpatrick and Lieberman back in '02. Shit tippers. btw Can't say I liked either one of them very much back then and ffw 6 years, they have both become even more unlikeable if that is even possible. Stick a fork in both of these guys, both of their political careers are over after their terms are up, one, hopefully much sooner than that.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

But IMO the Dems crapped on him 1st.

I simply do not understand how the Democrats crapped on him first.

Oh I don't know... maybe supporting his opponent(or being neutral) in the primary he lost?

Sheesh, do you people really not remember what happened in his race?

Yeah, I don't know how supporting the moveon candidate that is propped up to take your seat would be turning on him.

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: Genx87
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Oh right lieberman shit on the democrats? A little revisionist if you ask me. After denying him a democrat ticket in his last senate race he ran as an independent and spanked the democrat who ran in his place.

If he really wanted to shit on the noble democrat party who left him out to dry. He could have declared himself voting with the republicans and given them the majority in the senate for the last 2 years, denying democrats control of the comittee's. Democrat should be kissing this guys ass for not truely fucking them over considering how much they tried to fuck him.

Gen87, it's you with the revisionist history. I live in CT and am extremely familiar with Lieberman. Because of his pro-war position he lost the Democratic primary, fair and square. What he did next was form his own party with the de facto backing of the GOP (the GOP governor was publically calling on the GOP Senate candidate to withdraw-on the front page of the Hartford Courant) and with the full backing and support of Rove, and tons of GOP money, Lieberman persuaded enough gullible fools in CT that he had changed his ways, that he now understood what they wanted. Approximately 1.2 nanoseconds after being re-elected he went back to the total war all the time hawk that he has been in the last eight years.

Beng defeated by the popular vote of the people in a fair primary is not being shafted. It is Lieberman who crapped on the Democratic Party-and the people of CT-and the people of the USA-all for the promotion of what he thinks is best for Israel.

The GOP can have this slime-the people of CT are done with him. He's never done a d*mn thing for this state-except take credit for what other pols deliver.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

But IMO the Dems crapped on him 1st.

I simply do not understand how the Democrats crapped on him first.

Oh I don't know... maybe supporting his opponent(or being neutral) in the primary he lost?

Sheesh, do you people really not remember what happened in his race?

So being neutral between two separate members of your party is crapping on someone? There were a few Democrats that endorsed Lamont, but there were far more who endorsed Lieberman and the leadership stayed neutral. It's interesting that in your bizarro world the leadership not showing favoritism is a betrayal.

Oh wait, you're CAD. It all makes sense now.

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

But IMO the Dems crapped on him 1st.

I simply do not understand how the Democrats crapped on him first.

Oh I don't know... maybe supporting his opponent(or being neutral) in the primary he lost?

Sheesh, do you people really not remember what happened in his race?

Didnt Obama support him in the primary?

Yeah. Lieberman is a twat. Truth is, he was not a very good dem.

 

[Lemon law]

I agree with the basic contention, Lieberman is a DINO, more a servant of Israel than either a democrat or a Republican. His present value to the democrats is being the swing vote in the Senate, meaning the Senate majority leader is a democrat and not a republican. But in reality, does it really matter when either party can prevent any action in the Senate.? But bottom line, Lieberman is political toast after 11/4/08 on both a short term and long term basis. Long term, he will be both too old and unwelcome if he tries to run again after his term expires in 2012, and short term, he will likely have greatly reduced value to a democratic majority in the Senate post 2009. Assuming the dems win a greater than a 50 seat margin in the Senate, but short of a full 60 seats, Lieberman will have greatly reduced democratic future clout. Look for Lieberman to pay the price next year, loss of any plum committee positions next year.

But as a democrat, I am so looking forward to the Republican convention. Led off by a speech from Mr Terror himself, Rudy Guiliani. Followed by such luminaries such a Romney and then Cheney, the entire convention will be ready to start another few quagmires as the chant of eight more years, 8 more years of John McSame. And Lieberman will ice the cake, saying ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for Israel and perpetual conflict in the Mideast?

Lieberman may think he is a legend in his own mind, but he has still committed political suicide. And will find no welcome anywhere post 11/4/08.

 

[nageov3t]

too old? :laugh: he's a spring chicken compared to senators like Byrd and Lautenberg.