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Why don't you try it and see? Or are you afraid it's going to cost you $149.99 just to find out?So does it still suck versus MS Office?
Can a small startup afford $6 a month per user? Yes. So I agree with your comment about Office 365. Shell out the bucks for the full desktop suite and it's unbeatable. The money you save in productivity makes up for the "free" LibreOffice. Just my $.02.This is getting interesting. No doubt if I was doing a small startup I would use this. Well, maybe. O365 is kind of cool
Can a small startup afford $6 a month per user? Yes. So I agree with your comment about Office 365. Shell out the bucks for the full desktop suite and it's unbeatable. The money you save in productivity makes up for the "free" LibreOffice. Just my $.02.
slugg, have you actually spent time (like months) using Libre/Open Office? For many users, it has EVERYTHING that is needed. People need to learn the menu system because it is not a carbon copy of MS Office... but then, they've had to relearn some things moving to Windows 7 and also to Windows 8.
So why all the hate?
slug,
You make a number of very valid points. I'll give you one from my personal experience.
I'm in charge of the Data, Programming, & IT/IS departments for the corporation I work for. The other day, one of the Data people was working with an Excel project and needed to save a Tab delimited file without any text qualifiers (quotes) around any of the fields, just tabs as delimiters.
After searching a ton on the web, she couldn't figure out how to do it. So I looked, and couldn't come up with a Excel setting for this either.
I told her to fire up Libre Office (which I keep on all the Data machines, in addition to MS Office). In about a minute, we were able to save the tab delimited file, with out any quotes.
I know that's a pretty rare scenario for the average person. But, from my personal perspective, there are still things that I can do in Libre Office that I simply cannot do with MS Office... though they are admittedly pretty rare.
I wouldn't say I hate LibreOffice. It's just the reality of the matter that MS Office really dominates the productivity suite market. It's due to the skills and experience involved, cost effectiveness, and target market.
Generally, a company is looking at a potential employee, experience in whatever tools that company already uses is by far more valuable than an alternative. And most likely, that company uses MS Office. Likewise, if you're trying to develop skills, you're better off learning what the industry uses: Microsoft Office.
In the case of small businesses and startups, I still think Microsoft's solution is better. If the startup is super small (two friends, for example), then chances are, they're using their personal computers. They would then be using their personally licensed software. A lot of people have some version of MS Office already. If they don't, then Office 365 starts at 4 bucks a month, but the $6 option is totally worth it if you ever plan on working real-time online with your partner(s). Cook at home one more time a month and you've already recovered your cost.
If the startup is a bit bigger (let's say 10 people), then you have a couple options. If you want to stay traditional, you could go for a volume licensing agreement for $64 per license, which is a one-time purchase. Or if the company would like a cloud-based, fully managed solution, $6/month is really nothing.
No matter what the company size, if it can't afford a $6/month overhead per employee, then that company has no business staying in business.
So where does that leave LibreOffice? Well one thing's certain; people who hate Microsoft definitely like LibreOffice. Or if you're stuck in a Linux environment and just need something for minor work, it's a no brainer. I wouldn't say it's appropriate for educational institutions since all of them get deals with Microsoft or other OEMs (example: Dell might absorb the licensing cost). Developers like LibreOffice; you can use its API and borrow some of its functionality into your own software, which is definitely nifty. That being said, you can do the same with MS Office, although you obviously can't distribute MS Office with your proprietary software.
So what about personal use? Eh, maybe. I'd believe that. But chances are, if you ever get a desk job, your employer will provide Microsoft Office. Why learn two tools when you can learn one? But I guess if you plan on never using a computer in any job you'll ever have, then LibreOffice makes perfect sense.
Now keep in mind that my reply is talking in the general case. I'm more than aware that a select few companies exclusively use free tools. Then again, most of those pay for support, so the point is moot.
i rather my employees learn to use libre office just because if they couldn't learn to use it then they're no good to me as employees
That would be a good interview test. Hiring a Photoshop guy? Give him a task, a time limit, and Gimp to complete it. That would help separate the thinkers from the button pushers.
LibreOffice should stop wasting its time and give up trying to be an alternative to Microsoft Office. Until they have something awesome and new and compelling, it's still just second best.So in your mind MS has won and anyone else doing anything separate is wasting their time and should give up?
That would be a good interview test. Hiring a Photoshop guy? Give him a task, a time limit, and Gimp to complete it. That would help separate the thinkers from the button pushers.
LibreOffice should stop wasting its time and give up trying to be an alternative to Microsoft Office. Until they have something awesome and new and compelling, it's still just second best.
Winner!But why? Are you opposed to all free alternatives to closed software or just a few special cases? Does that apply to non-free alternatives too? Should MS kill off Hyper-V because VMware was there first and still has a much better product? Should Apple kill off OS X and iOS because Windows and Android kill them in marketshare?
I'm in charge of the Data, Programming, & IT/IS departments for the corporation I work for. The other day, one of the Data people was working with an Excel project and needed to save a Tab delimited file without any text qualifiers (quotes) around any of the fields, just tabs as delimiters.
After searching a ton on the web, she couldn't figure out how to do it. So I looked, and couldn't come up with a Excel setting for this either.
I told her to fire up Libre Office (which I keep on all the Data machines, in addition to MS Office). In about a minute, we were able to save the tab delimited file, with out any quotes.
But why? Are you opposed to all free alternatives to closed software or just a few special cases? Does that apply to non-free alternatives too? Should MS kill off Hyper-V because VMware was there first and still has a much better product? Should Apple kill off OS X and iOS because Windows and Android kill them in marketshare?