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piasabird

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About half the population of Illinois lives around Chicago area. The rest of the state is stuck with however Chicago votes into law. There is an awful lot of white welfare rednecks even in southern Illinois.

I live in Illinois. About half of the state consists of Corn farming.
 
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chucky2

Lifer
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Democrat? Yes. "Liberal"? No. Democrats are middle/right.

The kook in charge of Chicago is not just 'middle/right' (that was a typo, Yes? You meant Left did you not?). There are tons of Libs in Chicago. Maybe not insane flaming Libs (well, there are those too), but, very Lib none the less.

Chuck
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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AZ & KY are run by Libs? Who knew?

:D

We ALL know the Repubs are GREAT with money! :rolleyes:

us-size-spending-by-president.jpg
 

PokerGuy

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I thought CA actually implemented some spending cuts?

LOL... you don't seriously believe that do you? No, they just jacked up taxes and created rosy forecasts that obviously won't resemble reality to pretend that they will close the deficit. CA will have the title back soon enough.

Unfortunately for all of us, irresponsible spending and government waste is not limited to one party, though one party tends to do more of it. The voters are to blame for putting idiots in government who just spend spend spend.
 

zsdersw

Lifer
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Lol at the characterization of Chicago as a liberal mecca.

Yes, those who think Chicago is best described as solidly "liberal" clearly have no sense of perspective. They've probably never heard of many cities in California or almost any big city in New England.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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:D

We ALL know the Repubs are GREAT with money! :rolleyes:

us-size-spending-by-president.jpg

That chart left out the biggest spender in the history of ever. How about being a little honest and put Obama on there as well. We all know why you left Obama out, we all know what the chart will look like with his numbers in it, so who are you trying too fool?
 

dank69

Lifer
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That chart left out the biggest spender in the history of ever. How about being a little honest and put Obama on there as well. We all know why you left Obama out, we all know what the chart will look like with his numbers in it, so who are you trying too fool?
Obama is right there on the chart.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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That chart left out the biggest spender in the history of ever. How about being a little honest and put Obama on there as well. We all know why you left Obama out, we all know what the chart will look like with his numbers in it, so who are you trying too fool?

Here are the numbers....

MW-AR658_spendi_20120521163312_ME11.jpg

Also checkout this Rightwing site called Forbes!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...isenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/

Here is also the CBO's latest Fiscal model.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/42905
 

Zargon

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Yes, those who think Chicago is best described as solidly "liberal" clearly have no sense of perspective. They've probably never heard of many cities in California or almost any big city in New England.

I dunno


highest taxes in the state? check

decriminalized possession of weed? check

ban guns? check

HUGE poor population living on welfare? check

pushed for gay marraige rights? check



sounds like text book 'liberal' to me

disclaimer: noting said things doesnt make me for or against them, just pointing them out :p
 

zsdersw

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I dunno


highest taxes in the state? check

decriminalized possession of weed? check

ban guns? check

HUGE poor population living on welfare? check

pushed for gay marraige rights? check



sounds like text book 'liberal' to me

Compared to the other places I mentioned, no, Chicago is not "liberal".

And, aside from that, the thread title should contain "Chicago", not "midwest".
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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So your chart is saying O's spending has remained at the same level since 2010.....So?

It's still going somewhere.
800px-U.S._Total_Deficits_vs._National_Debt_Increases_2001-2010.png

What I am saying are you Rightists are full of shit when you claim O is spending like a drunken Sailor AKA Ronnie Raygun. ;)
 

Dr. Zaus

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What I am saying are you Rightists are full of shit when you claim O is spending like a drunken Sailor AKA Ronnie Raygun. ;)

The money added to our debt during Obama's administration (4 years) is much more than that of the last three republican presidents (20 years) combined AKA make reasonable arguments ;)
 

ElFenix

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What I am saying are you Rightists are full of shit when you claim O is spending like a drunken Sailor AKA Ronnie Raygun. ;)

oh, he's spending like a drunken sailor, he's just not spending any more than the last binge of the previous guy.