LGA1155 P67 to Z77

[Anteaus]

I currently have an MSI LGA1155 motherboard with 2600k CPU and 8 GB ram. I'm currently planning a "sidegrade" in the sense that I'm moving the system to a better case and updating parts of the system (fans, storage, etc). I have no plans to overclock. Is there any real performance benefit to moving to a Z77 motherboard that would be worth the couple hundred dollars? I feel this should be obvious, but I really don't know enough about how these mainboards work. My guess is that since I'm not overclocking there is no value in it but I'd rather ask people who are in the know. Thanks in advance.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

No

 

[ShintaiDK]

Z77 adds native USB3. Thats about it.

So...no.

 

[Anteaus]

That's what I figured. My P67 already has SATA6 and USB3 so that wasn't a big deal. I'll just stick with what I have. Thanks for the info.

 

[RU482]

nevermind

 

[Red Hawk]

Yeah, Z77 adds native USB 3.0, and I think you need an Ivy Bridge CPU in order to actually use it. Also Z77 motherboards can access the iGPU IIRC while P67 can't.

 

[Arkaign]

Yeah, Z77 adds native USB 3.0, and I think you need an Ivy Bridge CPU in order to actually use it. Also Z77 motherboards can access the iGPU IIRC while P67 can't.

The USB 3 doesn't have anything to do with the CPU thankfully. You're thinking of the PCI Express 3.0 on Ivy vs. the 2.0 on Sandy.

So mainly the sidegrade would give him access to the crappy iGPU

 

[Anteaus]

The USB 3 doesn't have anything to do with the CPU thankfully. You're thinking of the PCI Express 3.0 on Ivy vs. the 2.0 on Sandy.

So mainly the sidegrade would give him access to the crappy iGPU

I didn't know that PCI Express 3.0 is a Z77 thing. I have a GTX 570 right now so it's not a big deal, but if I decide to update to a 600 series what then? Would there be a big performance difference between PCI Express 2.0 versus 3.0?

 

[ShintaiDK]

I didn't know that PCI Express 3.0 is a Z77 thing.

Would there be a big performance difference between PCI Express 2.0 versus 3.0?

PCie 3.0 got nothing to do with Z77. Plenty of Z68/P67/H61/H67 boards got PCIe 3.0 with an IB CPU.

Second qestion, none whatsoever for your GFX.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Unless you go like quad 6990s, it won't matter if you don't gave pci3

 

[bunnyfubbles]

advantage of Z77 over P67 is as follows

1. TRIM over RAID-0 for SSD
2. iGPU support
3. PCI-e 3.0
4. Intel USB 3.0

PCie 3.0 got nothing to do with Z77. Plenty of Z68/P67/H61/H67 boards got PCIe 3.0 with an IB CPU.

Second qestion, none whatsoever for your GFX.

PCI-e 3.0 support wasn't made possible on the 6 series chipset motherboards until after Z68 release, so most P67 boards likely will not support PCI-e 3.0, not that it will actually matter for a few more generations anyway

 

[Arkaign]

True, I oversimplified my response. I should have said that not only does the CPU determine your PCI-e capabilities, but the mobo ALSO has to support it. Some do and some don't, even if they have Ivy bios compatibility.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1242211/faq-does-my-p67-z68-motherboard-s-support-pci-express-3-0

OP miiight have a Gen3 P67 board, but most of those were out after Z68 came out, so P67 sales ditched due to some other differences that made Z68 a more robust chipset (besides just on-die GPU). SRT and a newer Intel Sata controller are the more interesting ones to me. Z77 is another little step forward in many ways.

All in all though, I think my first answer stands. For someone with a stock 2600K that isn't planning on OC, swapping a working P67 board (meaning discrete GPU) for a Z77 board is just a waste of $$.

 

[tweakboy]

I currently have an MSI LGA1155 motherboard with 2600k CPU and 8 GB ram. I'm currently planning a "sidegrade" in the sense that I'm moving the system to a better case and updating parts of the system (fans, storage, etc). I have no plans to overclock. Is there any real performance benefit to moving to a Z77 motherboard that would be worth the couple hundred dollars? I feel this should be obvious, but I really don't know enough about how these mainboards work. My guess is that since I'm not overclocking there is no value in it but I'd rather ask people who are in the know. Thanks in advance.

Keep what you have clean the parts with a blower or something. Take both sides of case out take comp outside and blow all the dust away.

Sidegrade just for some fancy fans and storage ?? Your out of your mind sorry to tell you. You havhe a 2600k not OCed. You want to go to a Ivy Bridge for what reason ? You will not notice a difference in speed, its a waiste of money. Buying a motherboard now for 300 bones. Wait calm down, wait for 2013 and then you can upgrade to whole new tech Haswell motherboard and CPU etc etc.. Keep what you have now..Let us know what kind of storage solution you want.

Also games dont matter if its a 2500k or a 2600k or a ivy,,, its fast enough it all layes down on the video card... gl

 

[UNhooked]

Also Lucid Virtu for Z77

 

[Anteaus]

Keep what you have clean the parts with a blower or something. Take both sides of case out take comp outside and blow all the dust away.

Sidegrade just for some fancy fans and storage ?? Your out of your mind sorry to tell you. You havhe a 2600k not OCed. You want to go to a Ivy Bridge for what reason ? You will not notice a difference in speed, its a waiste of money. Buying a motherboard now for 300 bones. Wait calm down, wait for 2013 and then you can upgrade to whole new tech Haswell motherboard and CPU etc etc.. Keep what you have now..Let us know what kind of storage solution you want.

Also games dont matter if its a 2500k or a 2600k or a ivy,,, its fast enough it all layes down on the video card... gl

You misunderstood me. My current project is to move my system into a different case and upgrading some fans and change up my storage situation. I don't like my current case and wanted to clean things up a bit. I called it a sidegrade but I'm not actually upgrading anything of consequence. My original plan was to simply transplant everything, but I read some reviews for the motherboard I have and some reviewers actually said it underperformed compared to similar boards, so I decided to come here for some opinions.

I figured since everything would be out of the case anyway it would be the perfect time to upgrade anything if it came to that. Money isn't an issue. I'm not interested in overclocking but at the same time I don't want to have under performing parts. I'm likely going to just keep what I have though.