LG unveils first OLED televisions with G-sync Compatibility (55", 65", 77")

[Kaido]

http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2019/09/l...idia-g-sync-for-big-screen-gaming-experience/

• OLED (4K @ 60Hz & 1440p @ 120Hz with 6ms lag)
• G-Sync Compatible
• HDMI 2.1 (ALLM, eARC, VRR).

SEOUL, Sep. 10, 2019 — LG Electronics (LG) has joined forces with NVIDIA to make gamers’ dreams come true, adding support for NVIDIA G-SYNC® Compatibility to its stunning 2019 OLED TVs (model 65/55E9, model 77/65/55C9). LG’s newest OLED products offer blazing speed and stunning color reproduction, their superior performance and image quality validated through NVIDIA G-SYNC Compatible testing to ensure a smooth and immersive gaming experience without flickering, tearing or stuttering.

With exceptional picture quality, low input lag and an ultra-fast response time, LG OLED TVs have already earned a reputation for delivering an optimized gaming performance. The addition of NVIDIA G-SYNC Compatibility raises the bar once more, guaranteeing even more immersive big-screen PC gaming on the company’s industry-leading 4K OLED models, available in 55- to 77-inch screen sizes.

LG’s self-emissive OLED technology takes users deeper into the pulsating action of their favorite games, employing the precision of individual pixel control to produce incredibly realistic images. Along with infinite contrast and highly accurate color reproduction, the TVs offer an ultra-fast response time with a refresh rate of up to 120Hz. Input lag – which can make the difference between victory and defeat – is barely perceptible at a 6 milliseconds range for 1440p content at 120 Hz and 13 milliseconds range for 4K content at 60 Hz. The minimal input lag of LG’s OLED TVs, of less than a frame, with no loss in picture quality, makes them the best displays for gaming.

What’s more, LG’s latest OLED TV models support a variety of popular HDR formats that further elevate the gaming experience. Users can play compatible titles in dynamic HDR10 or Dolby Vision (at up to 120 frames per second for Full HD content) taking advantage of HDMI 2.1 specifications such as auto low latency mode (ALLM), enhanced audio return channel (eARC), and variable refresh rate (VRR).

To heighten viewers’ sense of immersion when playing games or watching fast content, LG’s 2019 OLED TVs support cinematic audio formats including Dolby Atmos and groundbreaking Dolby TrueHD lossless sound technology. With the best premium audio and video format options covered, users can hear and see content as originally intended by its creators. These models also incorporate LG’s deep learning-based AI sound for captivating virtual 5.1 surround.

“It’s no secret LG OLED TVs are coveted by gamers world over and we are committed to optimizing the OLED gaming experience for them,” Sam Kim, senior vice president of the TV product planning division of Home Entertainment company at LG. “With NVIDIA G-SYNC adoption, we are showing that OLED TVs have the support and backing of the world’s top gaming hardware brand to make their products look their best.”

“We are excited to bring G-SYNC Compatible support to LG’s 2019 OLED TVs and HDMI Variable Refresh Rate support to our GeForce RTX 20-Series GPUs,” said Matt Wuebbling, head of GeForce marketing at NVIDIA. “Gamers will be blown away by the responsiveness and the lifelike visuals on these TVs when playing the latest PC games featuring real-time ray-tracing powered by GeForce.”

NVIDIA G-SYNC Compatible support for LG’s 2019 OLED TVs will become available in select markets via a firmware upgrade in the weeks to follow.

 

[Glo.]

Its G-Sync compatibility, not G-Sync, exactly. It has Variable Refresh Rate, most likely - FreeSync.

 

[Kaido]

Its G-Sync compatibility, not G-Sync, exactly. It has Variable Refresh Rate, most likely - FreeSync.

Dang marketing weasel wording! Updated title! So G-Sync Compatible = VRR = Freesync(ish):

https://www.pcworld.com/article/339...s-over-94-of-freesync-monitors-heres-why.html

Nvidia's G-Sync Compatible initiative supplements the company's first-party G-Sync displays. G-Sync Compatible monitors are non-G-Sync displays that support the adaptive sync standard for variable refresh rates while gaming—AMD FreeSync monitors, essentially. Only models that meet Nvidia's stringent standards achieve the label, and have variable refresh rates automatically unlocked on GeForce GPUs.

iirc the whole Freesync support stuff is a bit wonky too...you need a 10-series NVIDIA card, a DisplayPort cable, and a special Adaptive Sync screen labeled as G-sync Compatible if you want guaranteed support. And if you just get a regular Freesync screen, then you risk running into issues...almost reminds me of the iOS App Store (walled garden) vs. the Google's more open Play Store for Android:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/333...c-monitor-support-geforce-graphics-cards.html

And only Adaptive Sync displays certified as “G-Sync Compatible” are guaranteed to work well with Nvidia graphics cards. If you try manually activating G-Sync on other FreeSync monitors, “It may work, it may work partly, or it may not work at all,” Nvidia says. Unlike G-Sync displays, which are all fully tested and certified by Nvidia, FreeSync monitors are built around an open standard with much less oversight.

Remember when you could just buy a monitor & plug it in?

 

[KentState]

Doesn't the Xbox One already support VRR with monitors like this?

 

[Kaido]

Doesn't the Xbox One already support VRR with monitors like this?

I believe so - I think this is just LG's first official offering outside of firmware updates & stuff on the older models.

 

[AdamK47]

Now I want to upgrade my C8 to a C9.

 

[CP5670]

Yeah, I wish they had this update for the 2018 models. I might upgrade mine in another year or two once HDMI 2.1 becomes more widespread, especially on the video card side. The lack of VRR and 4k at 120hz is the only thing I find lacking with mine, otherwise it's the ideal display for gaming.

 

[AdamK47]

Bought a 65" C9 over the weekend to use as my main TV / monitor. It was only $2400 new. Waiting for the GSync firmware to be released. The super low input lag of the C9 in PC mode makes the whole discussion of television vs monitor input lag irrelevant now. I can't tell the difference between the C9 and my Samsung LCD monitor.

 

[AdamK47]

Just a bit of observation on my C9. I noticed that the out of the box gamma was too dark. I was seeing black crush on things my C8 had no problems with. I fiddled with all the settings yesterday to combat it to no avail. Before bed I turned off the TV which put the C9 in standby and allowed it to perform it's regular compensation cycle.

Today, I'm using the C9 with the same settings as my C8 and I can say that the black crush is gone. I can now see the details in near blacks.

I suppose the TV needs to go through a few compensation cycles to get black levels tuned in on its own.

 

[AdamK47]

Recently updated the firmware manually on my 65" C9 to 04.70.05. Also updated my GTX 2080Ti drivers to 440.52 (insider preview). I'm happy to report G-Sync works perfectly.

 

[AdamK47]

NVidia released their 441.08 drivers yesterday and LG released their 04.70.12 firmware today. The LG C9 is officially G-Sync compatible.

 

[mnewsham]

It looks like a very nice setup.
Are you using it for 4k60 or 1440p120?

 

[AdamK47]

Mostly 4K60. I've tried 1440 @ 120Hz and it the input feels great. I can see myself using it for fast pace FPS. The input lag is nearly non-existent. If LG is trying to prove that input lag is a thing of the past for Television displays, then I think they've nailed it.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Maaaaan... I know this isn't full feature GSync but this makes it extremely hard to justify any higher end gaming monitor. Tempted to just get a 55" slap it on the wall and rearrange the office to sit ~3'-4' back.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Mostly 4K60. I've tried 1440 @ 120Hz and it the input feels great. I can see myself using it for fast pace FPS. The input lag is nearly non-existent. If LG is trying to prove that input lag is a thing of the past for Television displays, then I think they've nailed it.

What's your seating distance? How are you finding general desktop usage? At times when I've tried TVs in the past I've felt a bit of eye strain on desktop usage, maybe just from the change in focal distance, but likely didn't have my seating distance dialed in. Can you post a lighted room picture?

 

[AdamK47]

What's your seating distance? How are you finding general desktop usage? At times when I've tried TVs in the past I've felt a bit of eye strain on desktop usage, maybe just from the change in focal distance, but likely didn't have my seating distance dialed in. Can you post a lighted room picture?

About 10' away. Any further away and I find myself having to lean in to see certain desktop related content or game hud data.

In front of me:

Behind me:

I also have a second 10" sub directly behind the chair in conjunction with the Klipsch setup.

 

[alcoholbob]

Just a bit of observation on my C9. I noticed that the out of the box gamma was too dark. I was seeing black crush on things my C8 had no problems with. I fiddled with all the settings yesterday to combat it to no avail. Before bed I turned off the TV which put the C9 in standby and allowed it to perform it's regular compensation cycle.

Today, I'm using the C9 with the same settings as my C8 and I can say that the black crush is gone. I can now see the details in near blacks.

I suppose the TV needs to go through a few compensation cycles to get black levels tuned in on its own.

Did you have any burn in on your C8? And did you buy a burn-in warranty? (i.e., Best Buy warranty?)

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Did you have any burn in on your C8? And did you buy a burn-in warranty? (i.e., Best Buy warranty?)

No noticeable burn in on my E6 (not a monitor). It occasionally gets very bad image retention, but always goes away. It's weird that sometimes the menu retains its worst right when you turn the tv on. I should note my set is calibrated for a dark room, probably not as bright as it should be for where we watch it.

 

[AdamK47]

Did you have any burn in on your C8? And did you buy a burn-in warranty? (i.e., Best Buy warranty?)

None and no.

 

[AdamK47]

RTings says the best overall gaming TV is the LG C9.

 

[Muadib]

RTings says the best overall gaming TV is the LG C9.

Bah!! How can they say that without taking a look at the TCL 8 Series with mini lcd tech?

 

[AdamK47]

Bah!! How can they say that without taking a look at the TCL 8 Series with mini lcd tech?

A 8,294,400 self emissive pixel OLED display is still better than a 25,000 mini LED backlight LCD display.

 

[Muadib]

A 8,294,400 self emissive pixel OLED display is still better than a 25,000 mini LED backlight LCD display.

I hear that it’s closer than you think. I just want to see their review before jumping to your conclusion.