Letter to upstairs neighbor (domestic violence situation)

NetWareHead

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So the neighbors upstairs are a young couple, I assume are boyfriend/girlfriend. Always fighting, always yelling and lately the fighting has escalated. I can always her her screaming at him, sometimes into the late hours. The other day heard something smashed, maybe glass, followed by more screaming. These idiots live directly above me so I pounded on my ceiling so they would get some kind of message. To my surprise, they quieted down. However, at 1:30 in the morning I'm woken up again by heavy footsteps and more fighting so I didn't hesitate to call the cops. I'm pretty much fuming at this point and I have work in the morning. Cops got here in record time ( I told them it sounded like someone was getting murdered, guaranteed sub-5 minute response time) and the fighting ended.

So I write up a letter to the apartment and post it on the front door of the lovely couple living above me. Here goes:

To apartment xxx:

This letter is a collective effort, written by a group of your neighbors, also residents of building #xx. We need to bring to your attention the disruptions that we are forced to endure, sometimes after hours when we are trying to sleep.

It all started on the day when both of you moved in when some of us witnessed a shouting match in the parking lot next to your moving truck. None of us realized that was just the tip of the iceberg. Lately the fighting has been getting louder, more disruptive, more frequent and seemingly dangerous as we hear objects being thrown and doors slammed mixed in with much swearing, screaming and crying.

We understand that in an apartment complex, one can never expect 100% privacy and silence. However, loud noises occurring after-hours and domestic violence cannot be tolerated. We can only bear so much when we have children living here who do not need to be exposed to this sort of behavior, as well as ourselves who require rest at night and desire a calm, peaceful place to live.

For your information, the disturbances emanating from your apartment can be heard on all three floors of the building. Even when objects are not being thrown around, the yelling and screaming carries through the walls and is audible in the hallways and in other neighbors' units.

Therefore, please be advised that this letter is serving as a warning to both of you for any future incidents. While we were reluctant to involve the police before, from this point on we will not hesitate to call them again on the next occasion of violence or violations of the Town of XXXXXXXXX's noise ordinance. Furthermore, we will also collectively begin lodging formal complaints to the apartment association office, your landlord and police. All we desire is a comfortable and peaceful place to call home. We hope to have your cooperation. Thank you...

Sincerely,

Your neighbors at building XX.


I'm hoping that one of them kills one another, its pretty hard to make noise and fight when you are by yourself. What a bunch of inconsiderate assholes.
 

waggy

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oh boy that sucks.

good letter. maybe it will wake some sense into them.


god i hated living in a apartment. then again i like it quite so living where i do is great.
 

rivan

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I'm hoping that one of them kills one another, its pretty hard to make noise and fight when you are by yourself. What a bunch of inconsiderate assholes.


While I agree with your sentiment, that's a pretty ridiculous thing to say, especially when trying to make a point that THEY are inconsiderate.

That said, I think your letter's well worded but far longer than they'll read. You need 2 paragraphs and don't need to talk at all about 'it all started at the moving truck'.
 

mmntech

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Wow that sucks. Good letter but I doubt it will get read. I'm assuming it's a rental, so I'd definitely get together with your nighbours and lodge a formal complaint with the landlord. Sounds like a classic white trash battle. Boot their asses out.
 

Texashiker

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Letter is too long, keep it short and simple.

Maybe something like

Dear retards,

As long you keep waking me up in the middle of the night, I will keep calling the cops.


P.S. Take an anger management class.
 
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NetWareHead

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While I agree with your sentiment, that's a pretty ridiculous thing to say, especially when trying to make a point that THEY are inconsiderate.

That said, I think your letter's well worded but far longer than they'll read. You need 2 paragraphs and don't need to talk at all about 'it all started at the moving truck'.

Meh I really dont care. And yes I'm inconsiderate but my inconsideration doesn;t intrude on other people. Rent is not cheap and I tried to not rent a ghetto apartment. I value my sleep so I can enjoy my time awake and be able to function at work. When you fuck with my peaceful home and sleep time, you lose all of my respect. Fuck 'em both
 
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lxskllr

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Looks like a good letter to me, and it isn't too long. If they have issues reading through a couple trivial paragraphs, they have more problems than just bitching at each other.
 

waggy

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Wow that sucks. Good letter but I doubt it will get read. I'm assuming it's a rental, so I'd definitely get together with your nighbours and lodge a formal complaint with the landlord. Sounds like a classic white trash battle. Boot their asses out.

good advice.

It will get read. Then thrown in the trash. then the 2 will bitch out everyone in the building.

then they will just set fire to the building at night. Everyone dies (all exits blocked) and they laugh as they claim cigar but fell in a trash can.


Now you all are dead. great letter!
 

NetWareHead

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Letter is too long, keep it short and simple.

Maybe something like

Deer retards,

As long you keep waking me up in the middle of the night, I will keep calling the cops.


P.S. Take an anger management class.

Yeah well I dont want them to know its me who called the cops. I dont need retribution exacted on my car in the parking lot or start a war on the home front with people living above me. The letter is as polite as I can make it yet still deliver a message that has some weight behind it.

The fighting has gone on for 2-3 weeks and I'm kinda at my wits end. I've had plenty of patience and been more forgiving that most.
 

Texashiker

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Yeah well I dont want them to know its me who called the cops. .

The reason why I suggested you keep calling the cops, the cops will get tired of going out there. After the first few visits the cops will tell them something like "if we come out here again, someone is going to jail".

After the person is arrested, they will probably be offered an anger management class as a plea agreement.

If the couple is fighting, they need to learn how to deal with their issues and fighting is not dealing with the issue.

Some kind of behavioral management class is probably what they need.
 

God Mode

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Yeah well I dont want them to know its me who called the cops. I dont need retribution exacted on my car in the parking lot or start a war on the home front with people living above me. The letter is as polite as I can make it yet still deliver a message that has some weight behind it.

The fighting has gone on for 2-3 weeks and I'm kinda at my wits end. I've had plenty of patience and been more forgiving that most.

First apartment? The last 3 places I had (non ghetto) had problems like this. My current place has a loser couple that stays home all day banging, stomping, dropping bricks on the floors. Then at night like clockwork till 2-3am, they stomp and go crazy on the bed. I think one of their moms comes by every now and then and gives them money and clean (I can hear loud voices if I'm in the kitchen). Landlord tells me to simply move out and lose my deposit + pay for repairs if it bothers me so much. Same answer each time. I don't feel like going to housing court..

I moved once a year for the past 4 years. I can't afford my own house so.. :'(
 

NetWareHead

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The reason why I suggested you keep calling the cops, the cops will get tired of going out there. After the first few visits the cops will tell them something like "if we come out here again, someone is going to jail".

After the person is arrested, they will probably be offered an anger management class as a plea agreement.

If the couple is fighting, they need to learn how to deal with their issues and fighting is not dealing with the issue.

You're failing to realize that every time I get angry enough to call the cops, its because I am again missing sleep, again not enjoying a quiet evening and again becoming angry. If I can defuse the situation so I don't even have too call the cops, wouldn't you agree that I'm coming out ahead this way?
 

Texashiker

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If I can defuse the situation so I don't even have too call the cops, wouldn't you agree that I'm coming out ahead this way?

Your letter is not going to magically make people change their behavior.

You are dealing with people who probably have some kind of behavioral issue. Chances are they need help in the form of counseling, not letters.
 
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waggy

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Your letter is not going to magically make people change their behavior.

You are dealing with people who probably have some kind of behavioral issue. Chances are they need help in the form of counseling, not letters.

i am also willing to bet it causes more problems. People like that won't see that they are bothering others. They will take it as the building is against them. which will ratchet up the arguments (one will blame the other) and they will be rude to other people in the building perhaps even physically.


to be honest this is not a winnable situation.
 

Texashiker

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i am also willing to bet it causes more problems. People like that won't see that they are bothering others. They will take it as the building is against them. which will ratchet up the arguments (one will blame the other) and they will be rude to other people in the building perhaps even physically.

People usually do not change their behavior unless they are backed into a corner and have no other option. This usually means being arrested, having to hire an attorney, go to court,,,, then go to an anger management class.

But even then, the person has to be willing to go through the anger management class, pay attention, learn something and be willing to change their attitude.

Once those bad habits are developed, its difficult to change.
 

ZOOYUKA

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I'm sure your neighbors appreciate you stating that they were in on the letter. Don't be a coward at anothers expense!
 

Saint Nick

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Letter is too long, keep it short and simple.

Maybe something like

Deer retards,

As long you keep waking me up in the middle of the night, I will keep calling the cops.


P.S. Take an anger management class.
Psst, your slack jawed yokel is showing.
 

NetWareHead

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I'm sure your neighbors appreciate you stating that they were in on the letter. Don't be a coward at anothers expense!

I have the neighbors' cooperation and understanding. I'm the guy who has the worst of it living underneath these clowns. The guy who lives across the hallway from these clowns is a timid Indian fellow with a wife and kids who I'm sure doesn't want any trouble. He didn't seem too receptive to pointing any fingers towards the problem couple and just wanted nothing to do with it.