Letter from a Japanese Woman & Mother in Fukushima, Japan

[wwswimming]

Her name is Tomoko Hatsuzawa ~

"To people in the United States and around the world,

I am so sorry for the uranium and plutonium that Japan has released into the environment. The fallout from Fukushima has already circled the world many times, reaching Hawaii, Alaska, and even New York.

We live 60 kilometers (37 miles) from the plant and our homes have been contaminated beyond levels seen at Chernobyl. The cesium-137 they are finding in the soil will be here for 30 years. But the government will not help us. They tell us to stay put. They tell our kids to put on masks and hats and keep going to school.

This summer, our children won’t be able to go swimming. They won’t be able to play outside. They can’t eat Fukushima’s delicious peaches. They can’t even eat the rice that the Fukushima farmers are making. They can’t go visit Fukushima’s beautiful rivers, mountains and lakes. This makes me sad. This fills me with so much regret.

Instead, our children will spend the summer in their classrooms, with no air conditioning, sweating as they try to concentrate on their lessons. We don’t even know how much radiation they’ve already been exposed to.

I was eight years old when the Fukushima Daiichi plant opened. If I had understood what they were building, I would have fought against it. I didn’t realize that it contained dangers that would threaten my children, my children’s children and their children.

I am grateful for all the aid all the world has sent us.

Now, what we ask is for you to speak out against the Japanese government. Pressure them into taking action. Tell them to make protecting children their top priority.

Thank you so much,

Tomoko Hatsuzawa

Fukushima City

May 25, 2011"


Always interesting to hear from "boots on the ground" !

 

[xj0hnx]

Always interesting to hear from "boots on the ground" !

Some lady in Japan is what you consider "boots on the ground", how about someone that knows ...something ...anything ...about nuclear reactors?

Wait, did she cause the earthquake? Or the Tsunami? That scoundrel.

 

[JD50]

link?

 

[xj0hnx]

link?

http://www.google.com/search?q=Tomo...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

So far it looks like "blog, "blog", "blog", weird web site, "blog", yadda, yadda.

But then you have to consider the OP, one of the few posters that makes Anarchist420 sound sane.

 

[EagleKeeper]

<snip>

But then you have to consider the OP, one of the few posters that makes Anarchist420 sound sane.

OUCH!

 

[Steeplerot]

The creepy thing is our plants in the US are just as crappily made and worse.


Our psychopathic nuke industry shills are even more ingrained into our corrupt system.

Just a matter of time until the next one of these old plants goes boom they keep extending the lives of.

The nuke industry profit off the lives of generations to come for 1000s of years.

Oh well profits are from god so let's just keeping kicking the radioactive can down that road to the next generation.

USA is farther falling down the hole of irrelevance while using these 1950s era poison powered hot water heaters still. Wtf?

 

[MotF Bane]

But then you have to consider the OP, one of the few posters that makes Anarchist420 sound sane.

/thread

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah, this doesn't smell at all like one of the many supposed letters circulating the internet that are baloney.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

so it's made its way to NY she says?
how come this hasn't made more news?

 

[zsdersw]

I expect to see a Snopes article debunking this "letter" very soon.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I expect to see a Snopes article debunking this "letter" very soon.

Pretty much.

As for Japan moving away from nuclear power? I highly fucking doubt it unless hippies can fart out all the electricity that Japan needs to continue to be a modern 1st world nation.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

The creepy thing is our plants in the US are just as crappily made and worse.


Our psychopathic nuke industry shills are even more ingrained into our corrupt system.

Just a matter of time until the next one of these old plants goes boom they keep extending the lives of.

The nuke industry profit off the lives of generations to come for 1000s of years.

Oh well profits are from god so let's just keeping kicking the radioactive can down that road to the next generation.

USA is farther falling down the hole of irrelevance while using these 1950s era poison powered hot water heaters still. Wtf?

Please explain your energy plan without using nuclear power. Also, can you explain, with factual evidence, how coal/oil/LNG/fossil fuels are better and cause less harm to people and the environment while being cheaper to operate.

 

[PeshakJang]

Please explain your energy plan without using nuclear power. Also, can you explain, with factual evidence, how coal/oil/LNG/fossil fuels are better and cause less harm to people and the environment while being cheaper to operate.

You're trying to argue with a guy who wasn't able to count above 2 or perform basic math to try and save his argument. Don't expect him to give you something intelligent.

 

[wwswimming]

link?

it was on -

http://www.zerohedge.com/

 

[Steeplerot]

Please explain your energy plan without using nuclear power. Also, can you explain, with factual evidence, how coal/oil/LNG/fossil fuels are better and cause less harm to people and the environment while being cheaper to operate.

None of those are options for long term. The only reason propaganda mislead people whine about coal being the alternative so keep the status quo is the coal and nuke industry are one in the same. First world countries will be moving away from these old dirty technology.

But then USA will probably stay in the pocket of the corrupt nuke industry. Another sign we are on a fast track to 3rd world.

The premise of your question is a false choice. Nuke is not even a third of our energy in a country notorious for not adapting to technical changes with such a corrupt status quo. I would expect no different of a silly question from so many uninformed people here about the seriousness of the situation going on.


Once a few of these old plants pop we will be done as a first world nation. Its only a matter of time now. None of these old hot water heaters are getting newer nor is the spent fuel poison we must babysit going anywhere but in our enviroment through corruption.

 

[drebo]

Nuclear is the midterm future. It's cheap and safe (as long as you don't let idiot bureaucrats make the rules and skimp on oversignt) and abundant.

In the long term, nuclear is also the future. Once we've been able to create a stable fusion reaction, our problems with energy will be over.

Well, as long as they don't call it "nuclear" anyway. Idiots are afraid of "nuclear".

There's a very, very simple solution to preventing a Fukushima-type accident... DON'T BUILD THE REACTOR IN A TSUNAMI ZONE. Don't build it on an earthquake fault line. Don't build it in Tornado alley. Don't build it in a flood plain. Don't build it below sea level. Or, if you do, make sure it's got more than a 6 foot wall around it and better than useless backup generators.

 

[Steeplerot]

You're trying to argue with a guy who wasn't able to count above 2 or perform basic math to try and save his argument. Don't expect him to give you something intelligent.

Do you always speak nonsense or are you just to drunk again this afternoon to care?

 

[Steeplerot]

Nuclear is the midterm future. It's cheap and safe (as long as you don't let idiot bureaucrats make the rules and skimp on oversignt).

This is hilarious, maybe we can have someone loan you some unicorns and fairies. Because there is no such thing in real life. Nuke is not the future as there will not be future for very long with so many dirty bombs popping into the atmosphere every decade or so.

Keep dreaming beavis. We just in the USA have had many close calls in just the past decade. Clean my ass. Anyone who says nuke is clean is a idiot or not spent 5 minutes actually looking at the history of the industry in the USA.

 

[CLite]

None of those are options for long term. The only reason propaganda mislead people whine about coal being the alternative so keep the status quo is the coal and nuke industry are one in the same. First world countries will be moving away from these old dirty technology.

But then USA will probably stay in the pocket of the corrupt nuke industry. Another sign we are on a fast track to 3rd world.

The premise of your question is a false choice. Nuke is not even a third of our energy in a country notorious for not adapting to technical changes with such a corrupt status quo. I would expect no different of a silly question from so many uninformed people here about the seriousness of the situation going on.


Once a few of these old plants pop we will be done as a first world nation. Its only a matter of time now. None of these old hot water heaters are getting newer nor is the spent fuel poison we must babysit going anywhere but in our enviroment through corruption.

I will repeat on DisgruntledVirus's behalf......

Please provide your plan to move away from "poison water heaters".

 

[Steeplerot]

Smartgrids first then solar tidal geothermal wind hydro then figure out how to clean the huge mess up with what's left of these huge moneysinks we are left with for a few thousand years. Nuke was never profitable as they make themselves out to be (unless you are trying to con the piblic into subsidies) time to end shitting on future generations now. Not later.

Nuke power has always been a con job for those easily sucked into the fascinating tech it uses. (And the bombs they made)

This is why the industry spends millions lying, lobbying to misinform. Folks like in this thread eat up a few faddish techie terms instead of using common sense.

Anyhow nuke plants only provide a fraction of the power wasted in these old power distribution network. The plants can be decommissioned after a new grid. (well we still will have to deal with the damage done) after this is replaced.

Am am not a radiophone or anything like that and see some amazing future uses. But using it to boil water within our biosphere is beyond suicidal.

 

[Steeplerot]

Who the he'll is going to be around to spend and create and upkeep these toxic sites in 50 years? 100, this past few generations of humanity will be the most hated and destructive to be hated for centuries because of this nuke scam put upon the public. Bank on it japan is screwed already. Who wants a radioactive Toyota or food when you can get domestic? Thatvis until one of these bubble gum ductape plants pop here. Then on to the southern hemisphere.

You nuke guys have no plan to deal with the real circumstances and scope for using this tech. Time to wrap up the party the mess is big enough. Japan and tepco are bullshitting their own people with small children near the plant. You trust GE to give a shit about your family?

We know how this works..they cover their ass and your family bakes. Fukishima is a perfect example.

 

[Steeplerot]

Oh and don't think for a minute that the Japanese are going to clean up the mess.

(If this is even possible with so many variables)

Here's the skinny on the politics of the cleanup. The spent fuel pools.are total bs as far as safe engineering. We are supposed to be taking all of Japans spent fuel rods...BUT we backed out of the part of the Non-proliferation treaty. Tepco is stalling so they can blame the US government when for example #4 which is falling over dumps that crap all over the place or it pops.

Yes, #4 reactor building with 3-4 reactors of hot rods in that open air spent fuel pool is leaning to one side now.

THE WHOLE REACTOR BUILDING IS FALLING OVER

The building was blown to he'll by a "accidental hydrogen venting" from #2 and #3 early on when they went into total meltdown.



And guess what?

Check the news...a cat 5 typhoon heading for fukishima. Right now.

Do I sound alarmist? Sorry that is the situation.

Want my worst case scenerio for events? The #4 reactor falls over spilling 1441 fuel rod encasements all over the site. Tepco has to evacuate. The 3 reactors in meltdown get no water. Just on have a hydrogen explosion in basement scattering #4s rods and blowing its reactor building sky high. Northern hemisphere 0 fukishima 1

Then there is concern of domino effect of a abandoned site. That is what they call a "extinction event" kiss your asses goodbye. Have a nice day all.

Of you think I am full of shit or being overbthe top all of these scenarios are very plausible. I have been 100% correct about the unfolding events so far
I hope tepco can pull off so much at once bit its going to take a WORLDWIDE EFFORT
The honrstbtruth is humanity has never had such a huge task ahead of us to clean up. And the disinformation and media blackout 2+ months in looks very very bad for our fiturem wake up people the shit got real march 11th. Sleep is not an option things are worse then day or 2 or 3. They bullshitted from day 1.

And you guys are defending nuke.power. wow.

 

[Zebo]

The creepy thing is our plants in the US are just as crappily made and worse.


Our psychopathic nuke industry shills are even more ingrained into our corrupt system.

Just a matter of time until the next one of these old plants goes boom they keep extending the lives of.

The nuke industry profit off the lives of generations to come for 1000s of years.

Oh well profits are from god so let's just keeping kicking the radioactive can down that road to the next generation.

USA is farther falling down the hole of irrelevance while using these 1950s era poison powered hot water heaters still. Wtf?

That's nothing. It's just a matter of time before there is a nuclear exchange/winter killing everyone off but elite who have long term bunkers.

 

[PeshakJang]

Smartgrids first then solar tidal geothermal wind hydro then figure out how to clean the huge mess up with what's left of these huge moneysinks we are left with for a few thousand years.

So, as usual, you have no real plan or numbers to back your argument.

PS - your commie environmentalist friends have sued to block EVERY ONE of your proposals in the past. It's a miracle when a wind farm or a solar farm actually gets the go-ahead.

Nuke was never profitable as they make themselves out to be

I thought they were rich, profit grubbing, evil tyrants? Money money money! Profits profits profits! Guess not?

Anyhow nuke plants only provide a fraction of the power wasted in these old power distribution network. The plants can be decommissioned after a new grid. (well we still will have to deal with the damage done) after this is replaced.

http://www.eia.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/epm_sum.html

20% is a big fraction. It's our 3rd largest source of energy.

Want to replace that with solar? Let's do some math (This is where you shut off... try to pay attention)

In 2010 nuclear consumption amounted to about 807,000 Gwh, produced by just over 100 nuclear plants nation-wide.

The largest solar plant in the US under construction in the Nevada desert will produce just over 1,000 Gwh when completed and occupy 4,000 Acres. Try finding space for 5 more, much less the 799 more it would take to replace nuclear.

How about wind?

In 2010 the combined total of wind output in the US was about 94 Gwh. We'd need to increase by a factor of 8000 to replace nuclear. Good luck, again, finding that much space, and then avoiding the lawsuits.

Tidal?

according to the president of trade association Ocean Renewable Energy Coalition, “The total potential off the coast of the United States is 252 million megawatt hours a year.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_farm#cite_note-7

That amounts to 242,000 Gwh. So it is estimated that the entire sum of potential tidal energy available to the US is just over 1/4 of what we currently produce with nuclear.

Good luck harnessing a fraction of that, without getting sued perpetually for destroying the sea ecosystem (after you get past the lawsuits to stop you from even building it).

Geothermal?

2.5 Gwh in 2010. Very expensive, very terrain restrictive. You'd have to increase production by about 320,000 times.

Hydro?

Currently produces about 250,000 Gwh in the US, which is near the upper limit of identified potential for hydro power.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/windandhydro/hydro_potential.html

Good luck, again, getting around the lawsuits... plus dealing with all the environmental fallout for the next several decades.


So what combination do you suggest to replace 20% of the nation's energy supply?

What will the smart grid save us? How much will it cost? How long will it take to implement? What do we do in the mean time?

How long will it take for you to build these new plants? How much will that cost? Who will pay for it? Who will pay for the lawsuits? How long will they take before you can begin?

Am am not a radiophone or anything like that and see some amazing future uses. But using it to boil water within our biosphere is beyond suicidal.

No, you're just an idiot.

Like every other anti-nuke/anti-coal/anti-oil idiot, you insist that we abandon them in favor of less efficient, more expensive, less convenient forms of energy, or that we rely on some sort of energy source that simply doesn't exist yet... and then you sue to stop anybody that tries to do exactly what you want. You have no real "plan", just a bunch of hand-waving at a collection of ideas with absolutely no realistic means of implementation.

You have no comprehension of the simple numbers involved, and zero comprehension of the physical realities of your idiotic plan. As with everything you spout, you blatantly ignore facts in favor of rhetoric, and then when somebody points at the sun and says it's bright, you insist it is an ice-ball created by corrupt interests.

You're a prophet of a failed ideology, nothing more.

 

[Steeplerot]

Nonsense from the nuke apologists. There is plenty of room for all this and it is proven to work in other countries. You repeat lies...coal and nuke is in no way cheaper considering cleanup and infrastructure and the cost of accident cleanup. Give us a break you cannot be that dumb. TEPCO is finished along with a good part of their economy. Yeah that's cheap alright. So cheap whole areas will not be lived on and cost countless amounts for centuries to keep out of the food chain of generations to come. You have a lot to learn comrade. Your misinformed copy pastes are pathetic. Along withyour endless strawmen. And bunk like "we don't have a lot now of x! So it can't be done."
Hey dumbass, there was NO electric at all or infrastructure less then 200 years ago. Just one plant would cost enough nowadays to cover many states with whole new infrastructure.

Speaking of NIMBY good luck insuring a new plant. The industry is sitting on its hands for months cleaning up Fuku much less the plant in Ukraines containment is STILL falling apart.

How do you nuke apologists think you deserve any credit or trust when it comes to safety? We have had many close calls here in the usa because of the corrupt industry half assing and outright lying about safety of these plants. You should be ashamed of yourself. But you are one of those contrarian losers who get off being a asshole. Nice cut and paste though. You should win a trip to duly so we can stick your head in cerium you idiot.