Lets put my sig controversy to rest

[techs]

Let's put this to rest:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

March 3, 2002 press conference:
Correct quote should read: "And, again, I don't know where he [Osama Bin Laden] is. I — I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."

And

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I — I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

So my sig is saying Bush was not concerned with finding Bin Laden.People seem to be quoting his justification. Well, that's not what my sig is about. It's that Bush did not care about getting him and wasn't concerned with getting him. I don't care if you agree or disagree with his justification. My quote is essentially accurate.

Thanks,
As I leave this thread justified.

 

[Atreus21]

I'm so glad you cleared that up. I can sleep tonight.

 

[Infohawk]

 

[xj0hnx]

So my sig is saying Bush was not concerned with finding Bin Laden.People seem to be quoting his justification. Well, that's not what my sig is about.

Ahhh I see now, your sig is partisan hack jab taken completely out of context, and without the full weight of his statement behind it, gotcha. Sorry, your sig is not "essentially" anything except misleading hackery.

 

[JSt0rm]

Ahhh I see now, your sig is partisan hack jab taken completely out of context, and without the full weight of his statement behind it, gotcha. Sorry, your sig is not "essentially" anything except misleading hackery.

o'rly? What was the full weight of his statement?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Your previous thread was locked due to the selective quoting. Your were advised by two different Mods that such was not allowed.

YHPM

Common Courtesy
AT Admin

 

[xj0hnx]

o'rly? What was the full weight of his statement?

That even a mindless partisan hack like you could see that the War on Terrorism was bigger than one man, and to pour resources into searching for one person, considering the scope of the over all war, was not as important as concentrating on the two fronts we were engaged in.

 

[Fern]

Any time someone feels the need to paraphrase a quote, slanting it towards their view, instead of using the direct/accurate quote that is readily available there is an obvious problem.

Fern

 

[Veliko]

This is one of the reasons why I have sigs and avatars disabled - I don't get bogged down with all the attention seeking.

 

[JSt0rm]

That even a mindless partisan hack like you could see that the War on Terrorism was bigger than one man, and to pour resources into searching for one person, considering the scope of the over all war, was not as important as concentrating on the two fronts we were engaged in.

Ok. How is any of that wrong then? He wasnt worried about obl and said so. Misquote not seen.

What did happen is feature creep. By the time he was asked the question about obl he truly hadn't thought about him because our initial mission goals were so far away from where they were in the beginning its laughable. Your boy failed. Failed hard. History books will write of his failure for a long time. Kids will grow up reading about his fail and antiquated redneck neocons like you will argue that his idiocy was really a great man.

 

[Kanalua]

Thanks...I can finally get back to work...

 

[chucky2]

What happened is that Iraqi wackjobs and other ME wackjobs decided they wanted to go apeshit in Iraq (for various reasons), and Iraq turned into 30 years of repression let loose. Had Iraq gone smoothly, more attention could have been paid to Afghanistan*.

*: Not like it shouldn't have been any way. The US is big enough to have done both Iraq and Afghanistan properly, regardless of how Iraq was going. To say nothing of our NATO allies who obviously need us to hold their hand (see Libya) else nothing gets done.

The only thing that's "fail" is the Iraqi's not completely chewing themselves to pieces, despite the totally clear hope from the Bush haters of that happening.

In 20 years, we'll know if Iraq was worth it. Sorry if that doesn't fit your Starbuck's mentality.....

Chuck

 

[bfdd]

Is the second one you posted the direct quote? Because if so, it can be taken two ways. One, Osama isn't a big concern right now(the time he spoke) which could partially be true due to the franchising of ALQ that had gone on or he means he just isn't concerned with searching for him.

I'm not sure, just something I took away from it. I PERSONALLY highly doubt Bush was ever disinterested in finding Osama.

 

[sandorski]

Although your sig states the basic sentiment, putting quotes around it makes it inaccurate. Just put his actual statement there and the issue doesn't need a Thread to clarify. Won't stop the controversy, because Bushbots are really that bad, but at least you won't need to go through extra hoops to defend it.

 

[ProfJohn]

Why don't you post the WHOLE quote in context?

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is — really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just — he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is — as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide — if, in fact, he's hiding at all. So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.
Q: But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I — I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

 

[ProfJohn]

I think I am going to take some Obama quotes and change them to match what I think he meant.

Should be fun.

 

[xj0hnx]

Ok. How is any of that wrong then? He wasnt worried about obl and said so. Misquote not seen.

You don't have to try so hard anymore, we all know that you are the consummate partisan hack.

What did happen is feature creep. By the time he was asked the question about obl he truly hadn't thought about him because our initial mission goals were so far away from where they were in the beginning its laughable. Your boy failed. Failed hard. History books will write of his failure for a long time. Kids will grow up reading about his fail and antiquated redneck neocons like you will argue that his idiocy was really a great man.

Such a sad little boy you are.

 

[ElFenix]

i didn't know attention whoring was allowed in p&n. can OT dump neckbeard on you guys?

 

[JSt0rm]

You don't have to try so hard anymore, we all know that you are the consummate partisan hack.



Such a sad little boy you are.

Thats all you got?

 

[dainthomas]

Why don't you post the WHOLE quote in context?

"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him."

"I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."

These are direct quotes. Would it be OK with you if techs changed his sig to these? Or does he need to include the entire wall o' text you posted to preserve "context"?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Who really gives a fuck what you use for a sig, 99.9% of what you post is total bullshit and only read by/agree with those who support your ideology.

 

[NoStateofMind]

i didn't know attention whoring was allowed in p&n. can OT dump neckbeard on you guys?

Can't you see we have problems of our own!?

 

[xj0hnx]

Thats all you got?

No more is needed.

 

[Steeplerot]

Cowardly attack the messenger shit. Why are these shallow right wing trolls allowed to run amok disrupting everything with personal attacks instead of politics and news? They contribute all of nothing but acting like butthurt drama queens. This forum can do better if I was a righty I would be ashamed to post here with these numbskulls they already make USA look like braindead cultists.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Who really gives a fuck what you use for a sig, 99.9% of what you post is total bullshit and only read by/agree with those who support your ideology.

So you post this, acknowledging you read his post, by your logic implying you support his ideology...