Let's hear it for the first COUNTERSTRIKE STRATEGY THREAD!!

Sephiroth_IX

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Alright CS players, I wanna hear some strats and tips from everyone. Mainly on the rifles, especially the AK47. Whenever i play with that it is just recoil city - too hard to get kills with in comparison to the MP5.

Lets hear em!
 

atom

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Oct 18, 1999
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Don't get killed. And sky surfing and the box glitch in dust is cheap. :)

They destroyed the AK in 7.0. In 6.x and before, the AK was extremely accurate in 3-4 shot bursts (AK sniping in millitia was awsome). It's a LOT less accurate now.

I find myself buying the pump shotgun and the Sig P228 a lot more often now.
 

Sephiroth_IX

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Sig = bueno, but Pump Shotgun? Blah... a MP5 is better in almost every situation if you have any aim.
 

atom

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Yeah, the MP5 is better but it gets boring after a while. The shotty is more fun :)
 

Sephiroth_IX

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What do you think of the MAC10? I used it for the first time (well, second, i tried it before and never used it again :)) tonight and i pulled down 7 in one round... This happens with other weapons also, but this MAC10 just lays people out at short range. From medium to long i was using it like an AK, ducking and bursting...

Any thoughts?
 

Untamo

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A real Mac10 can unload it's clip before the first shell hits the ground. This thing will tear you up @ close range.

My fav combo is the Mp5 with Dual Pistols. I prefer the Dual Pistols over everything, takes more skill, and is waaaaaaaaaay more fun that way. I'm more of a tactical son of a bitch, wait, shoot 3-5, move, plan, execute again, etc...

Dual Pistols
Silenced Pistol
Pump Shotgun
Knife
Arctic Warfare Magnum

That's my prefernce in THAT order. I'm a damn fine sniper, but it's tooooo booring. And I like the tactics more, I have to be tactical, I play with COPS constantly, and on a 12 person LAN, 100Mbit switched, PII400's & GeForces, it's a rockin game, and has became an "official" game of the County Sheriff's after hours :) Course they like the p0rn too on high speed :)

As far as tactics, 2 man teams MINIMUM, 4 prefered for ASSUALT, 3 is PERFECT on all occaasion. We're very circle strafing, fire from behind you, plan & react group. Our tactics are almost that simple :)
 

BA

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The Mac10's good for penetration. Playing a poor T on militia, just get a Mac10, sit inside the front door, and wait for a colt to stick through.

The one thing the pump shotgun is for shooting people from above. Nothing beats jumping on their head and liquefying it.

I really like the USP now, I'll go for rounds and rounds only using it.

Problem with the MP5 and Dual Berettas is that you're using the same 9mm. With my USP, I can always whip it out if I run out of primary ammo.
 

loogie

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I haven't really played beta 7, however, one of the better tips is to be able to switch to your pistol quick. The mp5 + dual beretta is a great combo, just go at em with the mp5 and when you run out, switch to berretta. If you can't kill em without reloading, learn to aim. Use your radar, lots of people will have a teammate die and not realize where they were. If you watch the radar, you'll know where your teammate dies and where to expect the enemy. With the ak, i'm sure everyone will tell you to burst, well, do it. It worked in the betas before, i'm not sure if they changed it radically in beta 7 though. Long range, I'd shoot a bullet or two at a time. If you nail the guy with a burst in the chest, he is most likely dead as the bullets often times will ride up into the head. Use he grenades and flashbangs to your advantage as well. If the opposing team is rushing hard, a well placed nade will force em back or slow em down. Oh, and if the moron hostage is being stupid and run into the wall, just execute him, you'll feel better, and hopefully, you'll have more hostages to make the money back.
 

Untamo

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Executions are a nice touch. The Ak47 is WAY more inaccurate in B7. But they added dual pistols and a driveable jeep. Although, I dont think you run as fast, is this just my illusion or what?
 

BiB

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Overall the best strategy is that when you've run out of ammo on primary weapon, instead of reloading go quickly to pistol. More than once (way more) me and a foe have been out of ammo and as he is reloading his machine gun I go to a pistol and finish him off.

Knife sucks in B7, never use it.

Auto-shotgun is one of the better weapons in the game now. Cheap and deadly at close range it really kills up close almost as fast as the heavy machine gun.

Never try and kill anyone with the glock. It takes nearly a full clip in their face to score a kill, the weapon blows.

BiB
 

FrogDog

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The triple shot can be affective in short range tho...but when ur a T just buy a Sig Pistol...that's what I do. I love the sig pistol even moer than the USP.

The colt is good too...especialy when silenced, It's REALLY acurate!
 

BoberFett

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One of the best things to learn to use is smoke at strategic locations, and to avoid them in close proximity since your framerate will suffer. I was playing online the other night and my CT squad was getting slaughtered on cs_arabstreets. Once we figured out where to place smoke, it turned around immediately. Strategy seems far more important to me than type of weapon or accuracy.
 

Sephiroth_IX

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Glock works just fine - circle strafe, click as fast as you can, aim for the head... they'll fall....

My strategys include looking for flanks, having a competent wingman to give suppressive fire and clean up the people that just picked you off, and, when covered, using flash-rushes.

There are many more, but those are the main ones. Also, when using a powerful rifle from medium range, crouch and aim for the mid chest - i guarantee a headshot :)
 

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The dual berettas are fun but I don't think they are that great. When I am using the pistol anyways I always go for a head shot so I don't need the Berettas capacity. I just use them if I feel like some John Woo action. I might buy the Berettas also if I also buy a sniper rifle. Scout/Beretta is a fun combo (I refuse to buy awp's).

Grenades are probably the most overlooked weapon. Most people just chuck them without thinking, which is pretty bad. Nothing is better than getting three kills with one grenade mid round.
 

Sephiroth_IX

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Grenades are all timing - but you have to have someone to cover you so they dont pop out and drop you. Flashbangs and HE's are very effective if you know there will be people where you are throwing.

Also, here's a trick to the rest of you. Be the Arctic Avengerr skin Terrorist, throw a smoke bomb, when it gets smoky crouch right on top of it. Half the time they wont even see you at ALL, and they never see you in time to stay alive...
 

Howard

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If you join the CT team, make sure you buy a TMP instead of an MP5, because:

A) It's cheaper
B) It's a much better killer because
B1) It's near-soundless, and no muzzle flash
B2) Headshots are so godd@amn easy to achieve with it.

Practice for a few rounds, and you'll rock ass.

If you have a Scout, it's very easy to just go scouting (;)) around the map, zooming and sniping, or just plain running and firing. The Scout doesn't lose any accuracy (enough to make a difference) when you are running, so take aim at their chest, fire, rebolt, aim slightly to the direction they were moving in, and fire.

However, the AWP only lets you fire semi-accurately while walking, not running.

The AK47 is indeed less accurate, but it's still a good weapon, considering the price. IMHO, the SIG Commando, is much better than the Steyr AUG, because it's got super-low recoil while zoomed, a little better accuracy while unzoomed, and for me I kinda feel lighter using it.

Last, if you're a rushing-type person, shotguns, SMGs, and rifles are your type of thing. IMHO, the PARA is only good for close-medium range, firing in bursts of about 5 bullets each.


 

Howard

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BTW, with the PARA, don't reload right after an encounter, if you've got more than 70 bullets left. The damn chain has 100 bullets, use them.
 

Tonec

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AK is a dominant weapon when in the hands of a lpb. 2 shot bursts are very accurate and more importantly this weapon is availible to ts in the second round while cts can't afford the 3000+ for their rifles.

A strategy that I'm seeing more of lately is for the ts to spray pornographic logos at strategic points and sniping when a ct stops to stare. ;)
 

Cable God

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Anyone here play INF UT? Not to change the topic or anything... I was curious if I am the only one....
I especially like the 750x zoom Barrett .50 headshot city :)
 

raptor13

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Tonec NAILED the best strategy of the game: Full color porno logos!


Just place one early where you know the other team will be running, grab a scout or AWP, and pop their collective booty as they stop to gawk. It's so easy it's almost funny.
 

konichiwa

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Alright Seph, you're forcing me to lay the smack down.

Here's strategy for rifles (ala Colt and AK)

Okay. You're running down a hallway in Estate and you see a terrorist across the hall. In this situation what you'll probably want to do is duck out, fire THREE shots and then duck back behind a wall. Three shot bursts with the colt are accurate. As you hold down the mouse button move your mouse down. The recoil makes the shots move up the more rounds you fire. Repeat this as necessary. After you've done it a couple of times, run out into the hallway and keep your sights trained on the end of the hallway, crosshairs at head level. If you see the dirty Terrorist pop out, smack him with TWO shots (since you are running). Make sure to ALWAYS strafe. Back and forth, back and forth.

If you're outside in a large area, instead of strafing back and forth you'll want to strafe in a circle around the guy and fire at him. He'll get bewildered and not know where you are.

Now if you're at long range, such as in Siege, what you'll want to do is spot your enemy and immediately CROUCH. then fire off FOUR rounds, jump back up and start moving towards cover. Fire as you go, even if you don't see your enemy...he will not come back out so long as he hears shots and sees the bulletholes on the wall next to him. Then repeat the process detailed above to whack him fully.

Any questions? :)
 

Redwingsguy

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Throw smoke grenades like mad in the start of the game over the WHOLE map!!! this lags out all some people! less people means less to kill! ;)

But learn to use Colt, I only play CT in every level, so I kinda suck with T if i had to but am awesome at CT, COLT COLT COLT its good for all situations and the USP is a nice little sidearm too! Learn to charge past people but circle strafe with right timeing so you blow right past them and gun them down! Works well around corners!


And for those newbies, if you dont want to get killed too often let ur teamates go in first then BlOCK THE DOORWAY!!! After they die pickup their weapon and go kill the weakened guys! :)
 

Redwingsguy

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o and koniciwa when you spot ur enemy they can see you, and from very hard learned lessons, most of the people I stop to shoot at are ALWAYS snipers! so before I can pop that second shot off I'm dead! Just learn to aim and shoot will jumping and running like a madman! And never poke around corners when you know a sniper is watching cuz thats just instant kill, instant jump from a little bit back so ur at about ur max height when you get in their veiw and run like mad for cover!
 

konichiwa

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If you're using a rifle, colt, ak or sig good luck hitting shit while you're running and jumping like a madman.