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purbeast0

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My previous team's standups averaged about 30 seconds.

My new "team" average is about an hour and a half. :rolleyes:

yeah sounds like you have management/process issues. i'd be gone if that was the case. time to look for a new job!
 

IronWing

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My previous team's standups averaged about 30 seconds.

My new "team" average is about an hour and a half. :rolleyes:
For our next mtg could you put together a brief presentation to roll out a collaborative process for reducing our meeting times? Be sure to circulate your initial concept among stakeholders prior to the presentation so we can get some informed feedback at the meeting. We'll see how things go from there but be prepared to meet offline with interested stakeholders and bring back a refined product for consideration by the whole team at a future meeting. K, thx.
 

drebo

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I have a new boss at my job that insists on inserting himself into everything, despite the fact he's completely unqualified to make any recommendations about anything regarding the actual content of my job.

It's fucking annoying and leads to meetings that take 50% longer than they should because I have to explain things multiple times in multiple ways until he understands it.
 

vi edit

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Uhg. Meetings. I'm on three major projects right now and the design/build/testing meetings for them in addition to the routine standing crap I have on a weekly basis leave with with 10+ hours of meetings on a weekly basis. Plus I have to carry a call pager. Plus do my normal work. Plus actually implement all the things I'm on the meetings for.



Meeting'd. To. Death.
 

kranky

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A co-worker told me a while ago that at his previous job, he had an average of 33 hours of regular, recurring meetings on his work calendar every week. That's beyond nuts. He finally gave an ultimatum - either let him choose which meetings to attend, or wipe out all his defined development goals for the year and replace them with "Attend all scheduled meetings." And he also started to schedule his assignments based on a 17 hour work week (33+17=50 hours, which is what he would spend).

"That next assignment is expected to take two months? OK, then at 17 hours per week, I'll commit to a 5 month completion date." After a couple of those, they let him choose the meetings to attend.

For our next mtg could you put together a brief presentation to roll out a collaborative process for reducing our meeting times? Be sure to circulate your initial concept among stakeholders prior to the presentation so we can get some informed feedback at the meeting. We'll see how things go from there but be prepared to meet offline with interested stakeholders and bring back a refined product for consideration by the whole team at a future meeting. K, thx.

No problem! I'll just pull together some second-level stakeholders to brainstorm ideas before we deploy the collaborative process. However, as per Process Document PRM063 I will need to solicit consent from targeted resources that they wish to be stakeholders, which necessarily means I cannot have the feedback in my pocket by the next meeting. I will set up a pre-meeting to outline the concept and bring the PRM063 Stakeholder Agreement form so they can complete it there.
 

Ns1

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A 15 minute daily meeting is not micromanaging.

Also: bitching about a single 15 minute recurring meeting? Pffffft
 

SunnyD

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A 15 minute daily meeting is not micromanaging.

Also: bitching about a single 15 minute recurring meeting? Pffffft

If you're referring to my OP... try reading again. That was my previous schedule. My new team eats up about 3 hours a day worth of meetings now.

My role hasn't changed at all.
 
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Went back and checked last week. Scheduled for over 28 hours worth of meetings. Most of them overlapping each other by at least half an hour. Some group always ends up pissy that you skipped them and something else was more important.

Plus I had a vendor here for 20 hours I had to escort around. And carry the call pager and work the ticket queue for the week.
 

Slew Foot

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Most admins are full of MBA business types who have never actually done any work in their life, they just sit in meetings all day, telling people what to do.
 

kranky

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Went back and checked last week. Scheduled for over 28 hours worth of meetings. Most of them overlapping each other by at least half an hour. Some group always ends up pissy that you skipped them and something else was more important.

Plus I had a vendor here for 20 hours I had to escort around. And carry the call pager and work the ticket queue for the week.

28 hours of meetings in one week = I would die. No one on earth can be fully productive in that situation. Don't let those meetings be the cause of not meeting your assigned goals for the year if that might be the case.
 

Jeff7

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don't forget to invite everyone who might possibly ever be marginally involved
And those people who know the least about the subject are also the same ones who manage to have the most to say about how the project needs to proceed.
 

vi edit

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And the real kicker with my meetings is that they are sometimes split between two campuses on the same day and it's an hour + of travel and parking problems trying to get between them. A 1 hour meeting is more like 2. And they *REFUSE* to make them dial in capable to appeal to those of us working the remote location.
 

Ns1

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If you're referring to my OP... try reading again. That was my previous schedule. My new team eats up about 3 hours a day worth of meetings now.

My role hasn't changed at all.

ah, yes that sucks.

but meh, you know what happens when you have a business that doesn't support the project? You end up with a project like this guy:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2423202&highlight=project


Anyway, I just got off a project similar to yours - we had a lot of resources from the business side and it took a lot of time away from their day job. But thanks to the business support, the project went (fairly) well and the system actually does what the business needs.