LET'S GO USA!!!! Bush/Cheney 2004!!!!

fjord

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First Canadian buses, now Canadian music--Bush must be wishing he had gone to Canada to dodge the war in Vietnamt--instead of doing the influential daddy-National guard debacle.
 

tnitsuj

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I think he is doing a fine job on the economy. I have always been for tax cuts in principle. It is the ill advised national security policies of the president that I disagree strongly with.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: conjur
What is it?

<--- no flash installed

It's like a campaign ad, which surprisingly doesn't attack Kerry. It references Clinton, but surprisingly not in an attack either! Tries to say Bush is as good as Clinton in one case, in another tries to potray Bush as better. The theme is Bush is good for the economy (I guess his papa passed a few hard learned lessons to his son?) I think it's a pretty good overall, since it doesn't wrap Bush in a flag or pull the 9/11 card, but has the usual things taken out of context like glamorizing 500k new jobs in 2003 without mentioning he's still in a big job deficit overall.
 

conjur

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Ah...maybe more along the lines of Kerry's new ads which, btw, factcheck criticize somewhat but they seem to think there's not much to really attack in the ads, as far as truth, unlike Bush's ads.
 

arsbanned

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I think he is doing a fine job on the economy.

Don't we have huge deficits right now? Aren't there a lot of people out of work? Haven't they spent over 100 billion on a war gone wrong in Iraq and are asking for more? Tell me how it is in this other, parallel universe you speak of.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: lozina
BTW, look at this chart I dug up from earlier this year.

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2004/01/chart_of_the_we_2.html

That I fully believe. Looking back at the March job numbers, it seems about 1/2 were part-time jobs...low-paying...no benefits.

It's no wonder consumer confidence isn't that high. People just aren't making much money...it's all going to corporations.

Consumer confidence isn't the same as conjur confidence. ;)

In fact it looks pretty damn good...

Consumer confidence
 

Zephyr106

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ITJunkie

Hey Little Bo' Peep....I found one of your sheep ^ :p

AHAHAHAHA...OMG...That was teh funniest line evar!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Neverthe less, nice ad hom...top notch.

Oh and thanks for the insightful and fact-filled rebuttal...we need more posters like you on this board.

Has your horse been smoking weed? Because it sure seems high.

Zephyr
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: lozina
BTW, look at this chart I dug up from earlier this year.

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2004/01/chart_of_the_we_2.html

That I fully believe. Looking back at the March job numbers, it seems about 1/2 were part-time jobs...low-paying...no benefits.

It's no wonder consumer confidence isn't that high. People just aren't making much money...it's all going to corporations.

Consumer confidence isn't the same as conjur confidence. ;)

In fact it looks pretty damn good...

Consumer confidence

Yes, it's come up somewhat but it's still low. Consumer confidence wasn't all that hot in Nov. 2003 and we're just now back to that point.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Taking care of big business.

Who employs and pays people. What's the problem?

The problem is that we have to pay for the tax breaks for businesses that employ and pay people overseas.
 
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Taking care of big business.

Who employs and pays people. What's the problem?

The problem is that we have to pay for the tax breaks for businesses that employ and pay people overseas.

1. Don't believe the hype...off-shoring is a blip.
2. By saving money they sell their product for less, saving other companies and individuals money and have more capital to invest in better paying jobs like marketing, finance, R&amp;D.

Or, if you'd prefer, we could all pay more for stuff and keep the mundane chump work for ourselves. Then again, if chump work is all you're qualified for...
 

Stunt

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Well if you consider that the buget had a surplus of $500 billion before bush took the helm and now we are looking at $500 billion deficits, that's a lot of friggin money, i would hope that $1 trillion+ dollars were spent on at least something, and those marginal increases in economy etc are definately not worth the risks of the US economy going under due to debt and deficits. There is a point where lenders will realize that the moeny is not coming back, and they will call in the loans. Tell me where this money will come from? Bush and Cheney are playing it risky, and i hope it will not bite americans and us canadians (highly dependant on US economy) in the ass.