Let's finish em off (Taliban that is)

bbqweed

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Okay...Have to get some agression out.

I'm glad the US is doing all that military stuff in Afghanistan. Not because we are actually bombing them, but because we are standing up for our freedom. And for all those people in the US who are protesting....(Especially those in front of the Federal Building in Westwood, CA)...you guys are so unpatriotic.

Why do I say this...? Well, for starters....all the US soldiers are puting their lives on the line so that we all can enjoy our freedom. If it weren't for the military, life would basically suk for us all. By protesting, you are saying that your are unappreciative of their efforts. And if we don't attack the Taliban,...what should we be doing? (Wait for another attack?) I don't believe in violence, but I agree with all the war efforts of our soldiers (May God be with them...whichever one they each believe in).

All I know is that I love living in America cuz f our freedoms as compared to many other countries...and I am very proud of all that the US military and the President are doing. God Bless America...and lets finish em off (terrorists that is)


my 2 pennies....
 

Elledan

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Sorry to say this, but you sound pretty ignorant.

Why would it be good if a person is patriotic? I certainly don't see how patriotism can possibly be a logical response in any situation.

As for killing those terrorists, that's merely a short-term strategy. Within a couple of decades the US can start all over again. That is, if the US still exists.
The terrorists are the symptoms of a problem in that place of this world, assumed to be due to actions taken by the US in the past.

As much as I hate to say this, it appears that the US is only getting what it could expect.

 

Tauren

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<< The terrorists are the symptoms of a problem in that place of this world, assumed to be due to actions taken by the US in the past.

As much as I hate to say this, it appears that the US is only getting what it could expect.
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Thread crap and insult the US all in one post. I think that may be a first for you. No, you do it all the time.
 

Elledan

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<< Thread crap and insult the US all in one post. I think that may be a first for you. No, you do it all the time. >>

Can you point out the flaws in my post, then?

I do not intend to insult any one, or any country, for that matter. I merely observe.
 

Tauren

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The tone of your message is: "You got what you deserved."

I don't care what country this happened in. It is a travesty none the less. You are not being pragmatic about this, you are being insulting by insinuating that we were looking for this to happen. Just because your country is in no position to help anyone, don't assume you government would do anything different if it could.
 

b0mbrman

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And for all those people in the US who are protesting....(Especially those in front of the Federal Building in Westwood, CA)...

Nope, the real winners of that contest are, and always will be, in Berkeley

. By protesting, you are saying that your are unappreciative of their efforts

Definitely. Don't think for a second that it doesn't make us sad as hell...

As much as I hate to say this, it appears that the US is only getting what it could expect.

True...but Bin Laden wants more than you can give him. If we leave Saudi, he'll kill the ruling party while at the same time Iraq will come steamrolling through. If we didn't support Israel, they'd be gone awful quick with all the Muslim countries hating them so much. We can't really let the whole world be joined in one huge pan-Islamic state because a lot of people aren't Muslim.

Also, like Rudy G. said, don't ever rationalize that the killing of 5000+ innocent civilians makes sense because of past military actions
 

jjones

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elledan, once again you prove how much of a completely stupid a$$ you are. you are the one that is ignorant. now you're against patriotism in all its manifestations?

well one thing i'm glad about is you must agree about the bombing then. by your logic, the U.S actions are only giving to people what they deserve.
 

bbqweed

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<< I certainly don't see how patriotism can possibly be a logical response in any situation >>



Elledan, patriotism plays a large role. By supporting your soldiers, they will feel that their efforts to protect the people is appreciated. For instance, if you were to go into battle...(not like the Netherlands could ever do such), wouldn't you want to know that the people that you are fighting for are not such ingrates that you are proving yourself to be?

As for the bombings, it's a short term plan on Afghanistan, but if oyu wipe out their ruling party, then they cannot stir up trouble for awhile. It is very likely that we (US) will not be able to entirely abolish terrorism, but at least we can try to stunt their rapid growth. And as for ...



<< it appears that the US is only getting what it could expect >>



You are the one who is ignorant. The US going into their airstrikes over Afghanistan is not only to protect OUR (US) freedoms, but to protect the world. If they (terrorists) can do what they did to us in NYC, then just imagine what they could've done to the Netherlands? Interesting huh? Had it been your country that was attacked...I guarantee you that you would be whining about it, except the only difference is that the Netherlands would not have the military strength to combat these terroist b@stards...

As for the protestors in Westwood, Berkeley or any other US city....they should all keep quiet, if they cannot be supportive. Why do you think the US did not win the Vietnam War...because the anti-war protestors were so unsupportive, that many soldiers saw it as a lost cause....

2 more pennies...



 

ToBeMe

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Elledan:


Sorry to say this, but you sound pretty ignorant.
Yeah, you do, I agree with you for once


I certainly don't see

<< how patriotism can possibly be a logical response in any situation.
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That's your whole problem! You can't see past that big nose on your face!;) WTF do you think you are Spock or something????? Even he saw eventually that logic is not always the right thing to follow!;)



<< As for killing those terrorists, that's merely a short-term strategy >>


They would not have to be if they were turned over to the US as requested........I don't care what YOU think......the United States policy has always been not to negotiate with terrorists and those associated with them........this is no exception! If he (Bin Laden) is NOT guilty........come forth and provide the evidence........he and his people and the Government backing him have decided he can't do this though.....why???? If he is NOT guilty as they say, why doesn't he present his evidence in one of his taped speeches??????

That is, if the US still exists.
Nice.........I'll tell you this much.....if we don't you can bet a lot of the world as you know it won't......including the Neverlands!;)
actions taken by the US in the past.
Been here before with you and to be honest, you can't present ANYTHING that isn't easily refuted this is where you are REAL weak!:Q

As much as I hate to say thisit appears that the US is only getting what it could expect.
Well, once again......it's your opinion..........it just happens to be completely wrong and mindless drivel being spewed from an uneducated drone, but alas, some people are just to far gone to be helped........to bad EllaBAN!!!!;)
 

glenn1

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<< And for all those people in the US who are protesting....(Especially those in front of the Federal Building in Westwood, CA)...you guys are so unpatriotic. >>



Protesting the actions the U.S. takes is, in and of itself, not unpatriotic. However, protesting the acts of the U.S., while not being willing (or able) to suggest a better alternative course of action is rather naive to say the least.



<< As for killing those terrorists, that's merely a short-term strategy. Within a couple of decades the US can start all over again. That is, if the US still exists. The terrorists are the symptoms of a problem in that place of this world, assumed to be due to actions taken by the US in the past.

As much as I hate to say this, it appears that the US is only getting what it could expect.
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Okay, fine Elledan. You're now in charge of U.S. policy. Forget what happened in the past and assigning blame or credit, 'cuz quite frankly it doesn't make a damn bit of difference... we don't live in the past, we live in the present. Give us your alternative recommendations for what we should do NOW and in the future, and the rationales for following your recommendations, or STFU and let the U.S. and President Bush act, since they actually do have a plan. Whether or not you you think it's a good one or not is immaterial if you can't offer an alternative. So lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

I detest people who simply bitch and moan about a "problem" and whose "fault" it is, and won't (or can't) offer a solution to it.