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Let's discuss the popularity of Rap

johnjohn320

Diamond Member
Rap/Hip-hop music is the most popular music in the country today. Let's figure out why. This is NOT a thread for debating its quality, etc. I don't care whether you think it's "really" music or not. I am simply curious as to the source of its appeal to the masses.

Obviously, there's sort of a cyclical thing, a circular logic that leads us to understand that people will be more likely to listen to/enjoy music they hear more often on radio, tv, movies, etc. But we also recognize that these mediums will play what is more popular. So regardless of whether the chicken or the egg came first, what makes Americans (and maybe other cultures) want to hear it so much? A professor once told me that Western ears strive to find a pulse (steady beat) in music. Naturally, the easier you can make this pulse to find, the more the common ear will be apt to enjoy it. The inclusion of a drum set in rock music, and even more so the heavy electronic drum beats and bass lines of hip hop might explain why so many enjoy it so easily. Another theory has been that this generation Y (or whatever you want to call it) has a desire, just as every young culture of people does, to somehow defy the generation before it, to set themselves apart. This goes in fashion, art, music, anything, and has been the case for hundreds of years, though the "rebellion" of young people in the 1890s may seem tame to us. Rap is a type of music that the baby boomer generation almost certainly won't like, thus a subconcious appeal to the young crowd of today.

Just some of my thoughts-what are yours? Follow-up question if anyone's interested: conversely, why is decidedly more developed music, i.e. classical or jazz, suffering? It's certainly not that the music is unaesthetically pleasing, but rather seems to be boring or uninteresting to those who don't listen to it.

EDIT-I'm going to say this one more time, because apparently many of you cannot read. I really, honestly (not kidding, seriously) DONT CARE what kind of music you like. You can think it sucks. You can think it's gold. That's not the question. I am asking about it's popularity, not whether or not YOU like it. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Follow-up question if anyone's interested: conversely, why is decidedly more developed music, i.e. classical or jazz, suffering?
Because it sucks.
 
Originally posted by: ShadowBlade
Rap blows

/thread

Kinda like your reading skills. Read the very first couple of sentences I posted, and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Follow-up question if anyone's interested: conversely, why is decidedly more developed music, i.e. classical or jazz, suffering?
Because it sucks.

Again, this not a thread for debating quality. If you try to debate quality here, you will lose, and my original question will go unanswered. Please refrain from posting in this thread if you haven't the slightest hint of an intelligent thought to offer. Thanks.
 
you said it, the circular logic has got us by the balls. We see it in the media, and the media plays what is popular. We can't stop it. unless the 7 white guys up top want to stop it.
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
. Please refrain from posting in this thread if you haven't the slightest hint of an intelligent thought to offer. Thanks.
You obviously forgot where you are posting.
 
Younger people like crap music (rap, Britney spears, nSync, etc) while older people like developed music. What's so hard to see?
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: ShadowBlade
Rap blows

/thread

Kinda like your reading skills. Read the very first couple of sentences I posted, and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Follow-up question if anyone's interested: conversely, why is decidedly more developed music, i.e. classical or jazz, suffering?
Because it sucks.

Again, this not a thread for debating quality. If you try to debate quality here, you will lose, and my original question will go unanswered. Please refrain from posting in this thread if you haven't the slightest hint of an intelligent thought to offer. Thanks.

I DID, do you think i care
 
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
. Please refrain from posting in this thread if you haven't the slightest hint of an intelligent thought to offer. Thanks.
You obviously forgot where you are posting.

The only thing worse than the stupidity of your posts here is your apparent pride in it.

I DID, do you think i care

I think I'm beginning to understand why everyone's leaving these forums...it's been overrun by 13 year olds...
 
I think people like rap for a number of reasons. For one, image is what makes rap so appealing. That gangsta hard boy image is why people like rap. It still seems dangerous.
If you look at how rock 'n' roll became popular you'll notice that the two are very similar. In the 50's rock stars lived dangerously and they tackled issues that were tabboo, just like rap stars today. Rock music today is very corporate where old people make the decisions. This is untrue for rap but it could and probably will change as people get older.

That's why younger people prefer rap.
 
Where did you get the stat that says Rap is the most popular music today? I don't know anyone that listens to that crap.
 
I'll go with what tec699 said. Rap's appeal is in its image. If you like to project a criminal image then rap is for you.

And yes it is primal music barely removed from the restless tribal pandemonium you hear in Africa.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
I would hardly call rap a "developed" music. More like primal garbage, the lot of it.

I'm pretty sure at some point people hated whatever music you prefer
 
Rap/Hip-hop has already established itself as the "norm" for what is considered "cool" music. Girls tend to follow what is normally "cool". Guys tend to want to get laid so even those who would not normally listen to Rap would try to acquire that musical taste.

When a group of young girls (20-something y/o) are in my car and given the decision to put on Club/Rap music or put on my old collection of Journey and 80s rock, I tend to go with the former. The latter would put my odds of getting laid to zero.
 
I really don't know, but it'll eventually change. The masses always go through phases in what is considered hip. It was once Opera and Orchestras, but now it's Rap and Hip-Hop.

I think the reason why the majority of relatively affluent people would listen to rap is that they really have no meaning or purpose to their empty lives. The middle and upper class of society adore the quaint, the mediocre.
They listen to some rapper talking about his problems to beats and they feel some sort of kinship, despite the fact their lives are hugely different. As to why people choose to emulate someone on the opposite side of the social spectrum, I do not know.
 
Lots of people are saying "it's the image." Interesting thought. Why do you think people care more about the image and spectacle and overall "show" in music than the music itself?
 
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