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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=1526829
what's going in to happen? They said the beef is still bad....
what's going in to happen? They said the beef is still bad....
let's bomb them with beef
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If Japan doesn't let beef imports back in the price of beef will go down. Beef is VERY expensive in Japan.
Jan. 20, 2006
BROOKLYN, N.Y. -- In response to the reports today that Atlantic Veal and Lamb shipped beef to Japan containing cattle backbone -- halting U.S. beef imports for now -- company president Philip Peerless has issued the following statement:
"We sincerely regret that we shipped product not approved for export to Japan. Our company shipped this product in response to an order by a Japanese customer.
"The product we shipped is safe and is widely consumed in the U.S. marketplace. Were this product shipped to San Francisco, there would be no question about its safety. But because we shipped it to Japan, and because it contained bones that are not accepted by the Japanese, we have now been prohibited from exporting to Japan.
"We are absolutely confident that the product is safe. However, we regret that there was a misinterpretation of the export requirements and an honest mistake involving a very small amount of product that has led to this degree of concern.
"It is important to note that Atlantic Veal produces veal derived from very young animals -- animals that have never tested positive for BSE. We estimate that the veal we shipped came from animals who were less than 4 1/2 months of age.
"We will cooperate fully with USDA to provide any information they require to ensure that our company is in fully compliance with all inspection regulations and that our export programs going forward operate in a way that is fully consistent with export requirements."
American Meat Institute speaks out on export issue
Also today, the American Meat Institute issued a statement emphasizing the safety of U.S. beef.
J. Patrick Boyle, president and CEO of the AMI, said the following:
"We deeply regret the incident that has prompted Japan to suspend all U.S. beef imports. We are confident in U.S. beef safety and are committed to providing any assurances needed to restore exports.
"It is our understanding that a small shipment of veal from calves that were under 6 months of age was shipped. The product was inspected and passed by USDA as safe, but contained bones prohibited by the Japanese. This product is consumed with confidence here in the U.S. It is important to note that BSE has never been detected in an animal this young.
"Despite this shipment, sent in error, the facts are indisputable: U.S. beef and veal remain among the safest in the world. Experts say that the U.S.' proactive, preventive BSE firewalls have made the level of BSE in the U.S. so low it can scarcely be quantified.
"We understand that USDA will revalidate all plant export programs in a committed effort to show Japan that we take our promise to them seriously. We will cooperate fully with USDA and look forward to restoration of beef trade with Japan.
"This incident points to the need for uniform, global export standards to prevent the sort of trade disruptions that this error has caused."
SOURCES: Atlantic Veal and Lamb via PR Newswire; American Meat Institute via PR Newswire.
Jan. 20, 2006
BROOKLYN, N.Y. -- In response to the reports today that Atlantic Veal and Lamb shipped beef to Japan containing cattle backbone -- halting U.S. beef imports for now -- company president Philip Peerless has issued the following statement:
"We sincerely regret that we shipped product not approved for export to Japan. Our company shipped this product in response to an order by a Japanese customer.
"The product we shipped is safe and is widely consumed in the U.S. marketplace. Were this product shipped to San Francisco, there would be no question about its safety. But because we shipped it to Japan, and because it contained bones that are not accepted by the Japanese, we have now been prohibited from exporting to Japan.
"We are absolutely confident that the product is safe. However, we regret that there was a misinterpretation of the export requirements and an honest mistake involving a very small amount of product that has led to this degree of concern.
"It is important to note that Atlantic Veal produces veal derived from very young animals -- animals that have never tested positive for BSE. We estimate that the veal we shipped came from animals who were less than 4 1/2 months of age.
"We will cooperate fully with USDA to provide any information they require to ensure that our company is in fully compliance with all inspection regulations and that our export programs going forward operate in a way that is fully consistent with export requirements."
American Meat Institute speaks out on export issue
Also today, the American Meat Institute issued a statement emphasizing the safety of U.S. beef.
J. Patrick Boyle, president and CEO of the AMI, said the following:
"We deeply regret the incident that has prompted Japan to suspend all U.S. beef imports. We are confident in U.S. beef safety and are committed to providing any assurances needed to restore exports.
"It is our understanding that a small shipment of veal from calves that were under 6 months of age was shipped. The product was inspected and passed by USDA as safe, but contained bones prohibited by the Japanese. This product is consumed with confidence here in the U.S. It is important to note that BSE has never been detected in an animal this young.
"Despite this shipment, sent in error, the facts are indisputable: U.S. beef and veal remain among the safest in the world. Experts say that the U.S.' proactive, preventive BSE firewalls have made the level of BSE in the U.S. so low it can scarcely be quantified.
"We understand that USDA will revalidate all plant export programs in a committed effort to show Japan that we take our promise to them seriously. We will cooperate fully with USDA and look forward to restoration of beef trade with Japan.
"This incident points to the need for uniform, global export standards to prevent the sort of trade disruptions that this error has caused."
SOURCES: Atlantic Veal and Lamb via PR Newswire; American Meat Institute via PR Newswire.
If the American cattle ranchers want to make up for the loss of Japanese markets, they could reduce the price of beef in their own country.
Have you been in the meat department of your grocery store lately?
Have you been in the meat department of your grocery store lately?
Japanese love beef, it is just VERY expensive over there. I think it's more then double the price here in the US.
EDIT: I couldn't find any really good figures, but it appears that roast quality beef sells for $6.50 for 100 grams in Japan, which would convert to $30/pound.... for a roast?? Ouch!
Yep, beef and veal (they mostly eat veal) is very expensive there. But it's also of much higher quality, can't compare it with the crap they sell in Albertson's, Safeway, etc. They have some really weird beef too, like from calves fed with beer and massaged constantly so that the fat is distributed uniformly in the meat 
About $50 per kilogram
I don't eat beef myself much (prefer veal) but the meat I had in Japan was DELICIOUS. I've been to quite a few "beer gardens" with very good beer and plates loaded with veal and chicken morsels, and ... well, I'm starting to salivate so let me stop.
About $50 per kilogram I don't eat beef myself much (prefer veal) but the meat I had in Japan was DELICIOUS. I've been to quite a few "beer gardens" with very good beer and plates loaded with veal and chicken morsels, and ... well, I'm starting to salivate so let me stop.
Especially since they have had 19 cases of mad cow disease in Japan and we've only had one in the US.
techs
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The true extent of mad cow disease won't be known for many years. The prions that cause mad cow take years and years (usually) to cause enough damage in humans to be noticed. In fact no one knows how infected our meat has been before we started noticing this problem. So no one knows how many people are already infected. In 20 years we may have an epidemic.
trenchfoot
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that meat was usda inspected.
AV&L cleary understood what the export requirements were for the product being sent to japan.
their attempt to minimize their error and mollify its US customers is pretty fuuny too, considering what they said could lead one to surmise that US inpection and quality standards for domestic consumption are inferior to export standards.
it's the integrity of the inspection routine and standards that the japanese are concerned about, and not so much the quality and safety of the meat being shipped to them.
i guess the question of the day here is "who inspects the inspectors?"
AV&L cleary understood what the export requirements were for the product being sent to japan.
their attempt to minimize their error and mollify its US customers is pretty fuuny too, considering what they said could lead one to surmise that US inpection and quality standards for domestic consumption are inferior to export standards.
you mean to say they can't even interpret their own agreement correctly? that part about where they said "only a very small amount of product" makes me chuckle even more. it's like saying that that very small amount (if it was infected) could not infect all the other meat and equipment it made contact with.
it's the integrity of the inspection routine and standards that the japanese are concerned about, and not so much the quality and safety of the meat being shipped to them.
how's that for obfuscating the obvious? they were (typically?) lax on their inspection routine and the usda was (typically?) lax on them.
i guess the question of the day here is "who inspects the inspectors?"
sandorski
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There is a distinction though. Japan(I believe) tests 100% of their cattle for BSE, the US < 20%(far lower than that even). Many times in the US, instead of testing suspect cattle, they'll just kill and bury, just to avoid any controversy.
The problem isn't so much cattle having BSE as much as it's cattle not being tested for BSE. It's very likely that there are 100's of cattle in North America with BSE that will never be identified as such because their symptoms have not become detectable. So finding even 1 cow in North America is a crisis of confidence.
OTOH, France has a 100% testing regimen and finds >70 cattle/year with BSE. There is no crisis though, because no meat is sold from a cow until the BSE test is complete. If a cow tests positive for BSE, the meat is tossed and never gets into the supply.
This comes back to Japan/US Beef trade. The US has very lax inspections when it comes to BSE and Japan knows it. That's why certain parts are forbidden entry, those particular parts are at high risk of BSE, while most other parts are not.
Many in North America want a 100% testing regimen, so far the USDA has been adamant against it. I think it makes no sense not to have one and would certainly clear up all these Trade disputes.
I'm not really a cattleman, but I can tell you that ranchers take BSE very seriously. If a cow looks sick, they have vets out and they get it checked. They simply can't afford to lose 1 cow (worth $1000 or more) let alone have some unkown sickness spread through their herd.
If the consumer wants all their beef tested, then that's fine with me, but be aware we slaughter 35 million head of cattle anually. It costs $25 a sample to do the ELSIA test and since we've only had one cow found in this country with BSE I have to wonder if it's worth the cost??
Don't get me wrong, the danger is real and we need to keep a close eye on it. I just think there are better ways to stay ahead of this then to test every cow butchered in the US from now until eternity.
If the consumer wants all their beef tested, then that's fine with me, but be aware we slaughter 35 million head of cattle anually. It costs $25 a sample to do the ELSIA test and since we've only had one cow found in this country with BSE I have to wonder if it's worth the cost??
Don't get me wrong, the danger is real and we need to keep a close eye on it. I just think there are better ways to stay ahead of this then to test every cow butchered in the US from now until eternity.
If we test it, we need to do it for ourselves becuase Japan will still test it again when they receive it, so I reject your argument.
If supply and demand is real like the Rich Republicans always claim then there will be more beef in the U.S. and prices should come down.
Anyone here other than the rich tired of paying $15 for a small steak?
About the only steak I can afford is Venison. About 3 weeks ago though, I did pick up 40 pounds of 93% lean hamburger on sale for only $1.83/lb. I mix it half and half with my deerburger and it makes good chile, tacos, and egg rolls.
LOL, when I'm feeling "rich" I just make a 100% beef burger with all the trimings.
sandorski
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Why care whether they re-test it or not? If the USDA is thorough, the Japanese equivalent won't find anything and the issue of cutting off the Trade will never rear its' ugly head again(for this reason).
There's also the US Consumer to be considered here. It is foolish to think there's no BSE in the US. Without thorough testing some of that is going to end up on the shelves where Consumers will end up getting it. The incidence of ill effect from BSE in Humans(don't recall the name) is very low and even if many eat BSE affected Beef most will never develope anything, but some will. It's Russian Roulette with the Food Supply, 1 confirmed case of BSE in Cattle sent a shockwave through the Industry, imagine if 1 case of Human Infection is detected? Many countries already have 100% testing, there's no reason we shouldn't have it in North America.
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