Let's assume for the moment...

[zsdersw]

- Herman Cain or another Tea Party favorite wins the Republican nomination and the general election
- Republicans win supermajority control of both the House and Senate

Then.. after a year or two...

- Unemployment and budget deficits remains at or nearly as high as it was in the Obama years
- Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid receive only token reforms that don't really cut costs
- Taxes get cut and regulations are eased

These are not unreasonable assumptions, either.. BTW.

What bandwagon will you all jump on in the 2014 and 2016 elections?

 

[zsdersw]

No one has been able to address the central roadblock to getting our fiscal house in order: the immense popularity of and dependence on The Big Three government programs.

Until or unless that roadblock is cleared everyone's partisan/ideological rhetoric on here is just a circle jerk (and not the good kind).

 

[werepossum]

- Herman Cain or another Tea Party favorite wins the Republican nomination and the general election
- Republicans win control of both the House and Senate

Then.. after a year or two...

- Unemployment and budget deficits remains at or nearly as high as it was in the Obama years
- Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid receive only token reforms that don't really cut costs
- Taxes get cut and regulations are eased

These are not unreasonable assumptions, either.. BTW.

What bandwagon will you all jump on in the 2014 and 2016 elections?

My default bandwagon is always the Libertarian Party.

It's not that they have better ideas, just that they have fewer bad ones.

 

[Texashiker]

What bandwagon will you all jump on in the 2014 and 2016 elections?

I vote straight line Libertarian party, and have done so for 15 years.

Regardless of what the dems or repubs do, I see no reason to vote for either party.

 

[zsdersw]

I vote straight line Libertarian party, and have done so for 15 years.

It's a pity no one* else does the same.

* an infinitesimally small number

 

[zsdersw]

I mean, I find the lunacy from people like spidey, Craig234, and other ideologues very amusing... but it's all fluff; long on talking points, short on practicality.

 

[xj0hnx]

I mean, I find the lunacy from people like spidey, Craig234, and other ideologues very amusing... but it's all fluff; long on talking points, short on practicality.

This is what you get when such a diverse nations political parties are reduced to the two sides of the same coin.

 

[zsdersw]

This is what you get when such a diverse nations political parties are reduced to the two sides of the same coin.

Indeed.

 

[Jaskalas]

What bandwagon will you all jump on in the 2014 and 2016 elections?

My being conservative will not change. I'll continue to try and discover those who best represent my ideals of limited federal government and strong state pluralism.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I mean, I find the lunacy from people like spidey, Craig234, and other ideologues very amusing... but it's all fluff; long on talking points, short on practicality.

In all honesty, your post was a lot of fluff, talking points, and short on practicality as well. What was the point of your post exactly? If it was to spew talking points and fluff I think you succeeded.

I find it amusing that we can't seem to blame Obama after nearly 3 years in office, but after 4 years, and only 1 to 2 of whatever "Tea Party" candidate wins (According to you), people should jump ship since they are just a bunch of bandwagon riders anyway (again, according to YOU).

 

[QuantumPion]

- Herman Cain or another Tea Party favorite wins the Republican nomination and the general election
- Republicans win control of both the House and Senate

Then.. after a year or two...

- Unemployment and budget deficits remains at or nearly as high as it was in the Obama years
- Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid receive only token reforms that don't really cut costs
- Taxes get cut and regulations are eased

These are not unreasonable assumptions, either.. BTW.

What bandwagon will you all jump on in the 2014 and 2016 elections?

If, under the best possible conditions (GOP controlled house + senate + TP president), we are still unable to reign in the beast, then it's time to learn Chinese because America is finished.

 

[zsdersw]

In all honesty, your post was a lot of fluff, talking points, and short on practicality as well. What was the point of your post exactly? If it was to spew talking points and fluff I think you succeeded.

The point of this thread is outlined in the second post.

It's not "talking points and fluff" to ask what people will do if/when their version of "Hope and Change" doesn't deliver.

It's also not "talking points and fluff" to identify the main problem with doing what needs to be done to fix our fiscal problems.

I find it amusing that we can't seem to blame Obama after nearly 3 years in office, but after 4 years, and only 1 to 2 of whatever "Tea Party" candidate wins (According to you), people should jump ship since they are just a bunch of bandwagon riders anyway (again, according to YOU).

If Republicans win the presidency, control of the House, and control of the Senate they will.. as they've done in the past when given this amount of control.. demonstrate that they're just as damaging to the country as when Democrats have the same level of control. This will mean they have at most 2 years to enact the policies upon which their election was predicated.

 

[Ausm]

- Herman Cain or another Tea Party favorite wins the Republican nomination and the general election
- Republicans win control of both the House and Senate

Then.. after a year or two...

- Unemployment and budget deficits remains at or nearly as high as it was in the Obama years
- Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid receive only token reforms that don't really cut costs
- Taxes get cut and regulations are eased

These are not unreasonable assumptions, either.. BTW.

What bandwagon will you all jump on in the 2014 and 2016 elections?

I needed to seek therapy after reading this part due to a panic attack

 

[QuantumPion]

I needed to seek therapy after reading this part due to a panic attack

racist against change and so forth

 

[Fear No Evil]

I needed to seek therapy after reading this part due to a panic attack

A black woman like Condi Rice getting elected would probably kill you.

 

[Jaskalas]

This will mean they have at most 2 years to enact the policies upon which their election was predicated.

Problem with this country is that even with the Presidency and two majorities in Congress, the minority has the power to stop absolutely every single action - so long as they hold the line together.

Every action the Republicans take would require Democrats to support it. Ergo they get to butcher the purity and effectiveness of the bill. Look no further than the President's health care bill. Proof that short of 60+ super majorities in BOTH houses you've got nothing.

In short, this means they will have at most 2 years to do absolutely NOTHING.

 

[Ausm]

racist against change and so forth

Your calling a Liberal a racist now that's a new one LMFAO

My comment had nothing to do with color but everything to do with ideology.

 

[zsdersw]

Problem with this country is that even with the Presidency and two majorities in Congress, the minority has the power to stop absolutely every single action - so long as they hold the line together.

Every action the Republicans take would require Democrats to support it. Ergo they get to butcher the purity and effectiveness of the bill. Look no further than the President's health care bill. Proof that short of 60+ super majorities in BOTH houses you've got nothing.

In short, this means they will have at most 2 years to do absolutely NOTHING.

True...

I'll amend my original list of assumptions.

 

[Ausm]

A black woman like Condi Rice getting elected would probably kill you.

Like I said before color and gender makes no difference to me but Ideology does.

 

[Jaskalas]

True...

I'll amend my original list of assumptions.

No need. No one will ever get super majorities in both houses. If the anti-Bush backlash couldn't achieve it - then nothing will. This country just doesn't divide that way.

 

[QuantumPion]

Your calling a Liberal a racist now that's a new one LMFAO

My comment had nothing to do with color but everything to do with ideology.

Did you believe republicans when we said the same thing in response to being called racist by democrats? Then why should we believe you now?

 

[zsdersw]

A black woman like Condi Rice getting elected would probably kill you.

Adding yourself to the list of fluffers, I see..

 

[zsdersw]

No need. No one will ever get super majorities in both houses. If the anti-Bush backlash couldn't achieve it - then nothing will. This country just doesn't divide that way.

The rosy-colored glasses of Hope and Change can give either party a supermajority.

That's what this is about; the bandwagon mentality.

 

[Ausm]

Did you believe republicans when we said the same thing in response to being called racist by democrats? Then why should we believe you now?

Ok the first problem with your reply is there isn't enough bandwidth on the Internet to cover all the Racist connotations that come from the Right Wing and the second problem is I don't give a rat's ass if you believe me or not

 

[JS80]

What bandwagon will you all jump on in the 2014 and 2016 elections?

Believe it or not many of us true conservatives have evolved beyond any bandwagons