Let Them Eat Cake - Yellow Cake . . . .

[CaptnKirk]

Greenpeace Interferes again

Well, actually not, they are trying to supply uncontaminated barrels to those in Iraq who were
unfortunate enough to have had to steal the radioactive ones from the Uranium Processing Site.

We tried to get them to return them by offering to buy them back, but somehow they think that
radioactive waste is more valuable to them than the $ 3.00 bounty we have offered.

Shame on Saddam for allowing us to defeat his military so the looters could gain access
to all that radioactive material that we didn't have the foresight to protect from theft.

 

[sandorski]

Saddam's evil knows no bounds!

 

[da loser]

I would've thought knowledge of the dangers of using the radioactive waste barrels would've been enough to give them up, guess they don't feel any danger compared to the benefits of storage

kudos to greenpeace for the willingness to offer $15 vs the $3 US, capitalism at it's finest

what happens when they demand $50 for their valuable barrels? evidently they're not your normal barrel...

 

[KenGr]

Keep in mind that this has always been a "hype" story. Yellowcake is just uranium oxide. It is not enriched and has no radioactivity greater than natural uranium. Only 0.7% of the Uranium is radioactive isotopes and almost all of that is Uranium 235 which has a half life of 700 million years - meaning it has an extremely low level of radioactivity - it is virtually stable. It does give off alpha radiation meaning there are long term health effect concerns if large amounts are ingested or breathed. However, Uranium oxide has very low solubility, minimizing the ingestion concerns.

Sure, it's fine to get the barrels back but the potential health effects are minimal or none. The stories that have been circulating about current impact on health are certainly incorrect - there are no known immediate health effects from yellowcake until you eat so much you get heavy metal poisoning.

 

[LunarRay]

What about the Uranium from the M1 tanks that took hits and bits and pieces few into the air... is that dangerous?

 

[KenGr]

Originally posted by: HJD1
What about the Uranium from the M1 tanks that took hits and bits and pieces few into the air... is that dangerous?

The depleted uranium used for armor is not dangerous at all. As the name says, it has a lower content of radioactive material than uranium ore. It is almost entirely Uranium 238 which is stable. Activist groups keep bringing this up and trying to create scare stories but study after study has confirmed common sense. It's a material that is so low in radioactivity it doesn't present a hazard. Again, uranium is a heavy metal like lead and could be toxic if you ate enough, but no one has figured out how to do that.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: KenGr

Originally posted by: HJD1
What about the Uranium from the M1 tanks that took hits and bits and pieces few into the air... is that dangerous?

The depleted uranium used for armor is not dangerous at all. As the name says, it has a lower content of radioactive material than uranium ore. It is almost entirely Uranium 238 which is stable. Activist groups keep bringing this up and trying to create scare stories but study after study has confirmed common sense. It's a material that is so low in radioactivity it doesn't present a hazard. Again, uranium is a heavy metal like lead and could be toxic if you ate enough, but no one has figured out how to do that.

it is not the radioactivity that is dangerous, its the fact that its a heavy metal in dust form that can get into water supplies and so forth, that is the danger

 

[KenGr]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: KenGr

Originally posted by: HJD1
What about the Uranium from the M1 tanks that took hits and bits and pieces few into the air... is that dangerous?

The depleted uranium used for armor is not dangerous at all. As the name says, it has a lower content of radioactive material than uranium ore. It is almost entirely Uranium 238 which is stable. Activist groups keep bringing this up and trying to create scare stories but study after study has confirmed common sense. It's a material that is so low in radioactivity it doesn't present a hazard. Again, uranium is a heavy metal like lead and could be toxic if you ate enough, but no one has figured out how to do that.

it is not the radioactivity that is dangerous, its the fact that its a heavy metal in dust form that can get into water supplies and so forth, that is the danger

The nature of the ammunition and armor that are composed of depleted Uranium minimizes the creation of dust. Again, numerous studies have found very little dispersion of Uranium. Uranium and Uranium oxide have very low solubility.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: KenGr

Originally posted by: HJD1
What about the Uranium from the M1 tanks that took hits and bits and pieces few into the air... is that dangerous?

The depleted uranium used for armor is not dangerous at all. As the name says, it has a lower content of radioactive material than uranium ore. It is almost entirely Uranium 238 which is stable. Activist groups keep bringing this up and trying to create scare stories but study after study has confirmed common sense. It's a material that is so low in radioactivity it doesn't present a hazard. Again, uranium is a heavy metal like lead and could be toxic if you ate enough, but no one has figured out how to do that.

I find it interesting the one of the first questions asked of soldiers reporting illness, or returning from Iraq by the medical people is if they have been exposed to DU. If it is thought to be a completely innocuous substance, why do they do that?

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Originally posted by: KenGr

Originally posted by: HJD1
What about the Uranium from the M1 tanks that took hits and bits and pieces few into the air... is that dangerous?

The depleted uranium used for armor is not dangerous at all. As the name says, it has a lower content of radioactive material than uranium ore. It is almost entirely Uranium 238 which is stable. Activist groups keep bringing this up and trying to create scare stories but study after study has confirmed common sense. It's a material that is so low in radioactivity it doesn't present a hazard. Again, uranium is a heavy metal like lead and could be toxic if you ate enough, but no one has figured out how to do that.

I find it interesting the one of the first questions asked of soldiers reporting illness, or returning from Iraq by the medical people is if they have been exposed to DU. If it is thought to be a completely innocuous substance, why do they do that?

I seem to remember a posting about this awhile back and again recently on TV... news ..the particulates can cause auto immune disorders was what I remember..

Used to be hjd1

 

[Piano Man]

Those damn hippies!!! Always f*cking sh*t up for the poor people!!!

 

[ReiAyanami]

my third eye and sixth finger assure you depleted uranium is completely safe.

 

[KenGr]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Originally posted by: KenGr

Originally posted by: HJD1
What about the Uranium from the M1 tanks that took hits and bits and pieces few into the air... is that dangerous?

The depleted uranium used for armor is not dangerous at all. As the name says, it has a lower content of radioactive material than uranium ore. It is almost entirely Uranium 238 which is stable. Activist groups keep bringing this up and trying to create scare stories but study after study has confirmed common sense. It's a material that is so low in radioactivity it doesn't present a hazard. Again, uranium is a heavy metal like lead and could be toxic if you ate enough, but no one has figured out how to do that.

I find it interesting the one of the first questions asked of soldiers reporting illness, or returning from Iraq by the medical people is if they have been exposed to DU. If it is thought to be a completely innocuous substance, why do they do that?

Because is has been alleged to cause medical problems. If the military doesn't collect this data and have it available, they will be at the mercy of those who wish to selectively develop their own data. This is standard operating procedure when health effects are alleged. You capture as complete exposure record as possible to be able to quickly determine if there is any validity to concerns which develop. This was learned in the Balkans. Ultimately it was shown that that there was no correlation between depleted Uranium exposure and the various illnesses cited, but the cost of investigating it and evaluating the data was huge.

 

[Nitemare]

Sorry to be such an ahole here, but what kind of moron stores food and water from canisters obtained in a nuclear facility?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Sorry to be such an ahole here, but what kind of moron stores food and water from canisters obtained in a nuclear facility?

they probably don't know any better

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Sorry to be such an ahole here, but what kind of moron stores food and water from canisters obtained in a nuclear facility?

I guess the proximate cause of the need to store the water and food has something to do with it.... The Iraqi was used to living with out the need to go to such extremes, I suppose. Ignorance is bliss..