"Let Me Finish"

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: JHoNNy1OoO

Originally posted by: Todd33
Even without the bleed through, that White House audio shows Bush talking with huge gaps between each sentence. That's scary. Also, that outdoor conference where he screws up the name and then gets it right looks pretty bad too.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news...-newsconference.v.smil

I remember seeing some comment on another blog (Eschaton?) about Bush wearing an earpiece during press conferences and being fed answers. I think it was a joke or idle speculation. Well, if you watch the press conference starting at about 13:23, Bush is going through a list of names of Al Qaeda terrorists they have caught and he stumbles over the name of Ramzi Binalshibh, eventually calling him Ramzi Alshibh. He jokingly apologizes to Ramzi if he got his name wrong and then, at 13:32, he looks down and to his right intently for about 2 seconds, like he is listening to something, and looks up and says "Binalshibh, excuse me." As I recall, people usually look up and to the left when trying to recall something from memory. So where did he get the correct name from? I've watched the segment several times, and I am sure he has an earpiece in his right ear. It just looks so obvious from the expression on his face and the way he holds his head."

That seems very telling.

I don't blame him for using an earpiece but when the president is suppose to know information in and out and basically live it day to day. Especially after Semptember 11th and with terrorism. It is very disconcerting when there is a possibility that he is being fed information to look like he is competent.

what's worse is that the people who are voting for him aren't listening to the facts. i wanted to give bush the benefit of the doubt in terms of the debate and an ear piece, but the evidence is piling up against him. not enough for it to resolute a clear and resolute judgement, but still

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: conjur
Perhaps the voices from his implant were telling him something.

cough_partisan hack_cough.....

Nice troll and run bozack. :thumbsdown:

 

[CaptnKirk]

Binalshibh

Arabic for 'My Little Goat'

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Binalshibh

Arabic for 'My Little Goat'

HE SPEAKS ARABIC!!!! HES A TERRORIST
























































































captnkirk is NOT a terrorist, and the comment was made in jest and a satirical nature. (you never know in bush's post 9/11, i didn't want to get u in trouble for nothing)

 

[CaptnKirk]

I always wondered why he named his War Cabinet for Spok's home Planet . . .

And hug out with those Enron Guys who named their companied after Star Wars . . .

Dweee-oooh, Dweeee-ooooh,
(Cue the Theremin)

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur

Nope.

Tell me, bozack. Are you denying that Bush has ever used an earpiece during speeches?

Conjur, your a hack plain and simple....

as to your question, no I am not saying that Bush or any politician never used an earpiece or any other aid in speeches, if the technology is available which it is then I see no reason why they wouldn't nor shouldn't use it...with that said I do think that these claims of his using assistance in the debates are laughable especially given his poor performance

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: bozack

Conjur, your a hack plain and simple....

Except you can't explain why, which means you're the hack.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: bozack

Conjur, your a hack plain and simple....

Except you can't explain why, which means you're the hack.

pot kettle

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: conjur

Nope.

Tell me, bozack. Are you denying that Bush has ever used an earpiece during speeches?

Conjur, your a hack plain and simple....

as to your question, no I am not saying that Bush or any politician never used an earpiece or any other aid in speeches, if the technology is available which it is then I see no reason why they wouldn't nor shouldn't use it...with that said I do think that these claims of his using assistance in the debates are laughable especially given his poor performance

My what is a hack?


And, Bush's speeches prove even more that he is a failure. If he can't take direction fed to him, how can he make sound judgments on his own?

 

[tiredofit]

Maybe his ear piece didn't work thats why he seemed so ill prepared.

 

[conjur]

Bush was Wired in Debate
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/298647.shtml

there was something very curious about his speaking style: the unnatural way he would be at a loss for words, pause a couple of seconds looking down at his lectern--as if listening--and then looking up, deliver a full sentence as if it had just come to him out of the blue. This occured several times during the "debate."
Bush Wired in "Debate"

Even though the "Debate" was really just a rigged, dual press conference, with previewed softball questions--and a gagged, hand-picked audience to boot--it was still difficult to believe that the man who Nelson Mandela said "cannot think properly" failed to make a single verbal gaffe while speaking without teleprompter for around 20 minutes.

Bush may not have misspoken but there was something very curious about his speaking style: the unnatural way he would be at a loss for words, pause a couple of seconds looking down at his lectern--as if listening--and then looking up, deliver a full sentence as if it had just come to him out of the blue. This occured several times during the "debate." He seemed to be getting live help. It was noted that Karl Rove was on hand at the Miami event. If he was not sitting in full view of the audience, then he's the likely candidate to have been the brain on the other end of Bush's wireless earpiece.

Consider also the following transcript evidence from an earlier Bush press conference:

Opinion: Bush Wired for Sound? (24 Dec 03)

RadioFreeUSA.net Editor
Early in the Bush administration, commentators poked fun at his inability to accurately read a teleprompter. Then he seemed to improve. Some Bush watchers believe he now wears a hidden earplug of some kind and says whatever comes through to him from his (unseen) handlers. Hard evidence for this theory is hard to find but... consider this quote from a December 15th press conference.

After Bush makes a mistake (saying "commiserate" instead of "commensurate") he doesn't correct himself but rather appears to echo his unseen handlers frustrated comment.

George Bush: "I want to remind you all that in order to fight and win the war, it requires an expenditure of money that is commiserate with keeping a promise to our troops to make sure that they're well paid, well trained, well equipped. . . . See, without the tax relief package, there would have been a deficit, but there wouldn't have been the commiserate -- not 'commiserate' -- the kick to our economy that occurred as a result of the tax relief."

Is Bush using a wireless listening device? If so ... 02.Oct.2004 08:35

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redpeter link


Is Bush using a wireless listening device? If so ...he is likely to be using a Completely-In-the-(ear)-Canal (CIC) earpiece, then it is likely to operate using FM technology.

People who or hard-of-hearing use assistive listening devices (ALDs) in conferences, theaters and other large auditoria to get Personal Address System sound delivered direct to their hearing aids or cochlear implants without any background noise which can be highly distracting.

If Bush and his handlers are using such a system, it is likely that it is operating using FM technology that is commonly found in ALDs, in which the latest short-distance transmitters uses a bandwidth between 216-217 mHertz. It is possible that a totally unique bandwidth was chosen, but then it would have to be customized, and not beyond the $$$ reach of the Bush campaign.

However, if we assume that Bush is wirelessly listening to his handlers, there maybe a way to check it out and listen in.

A Device made by Phonak (www.phonak.com) called a Microfield is able to scan the 216-217 mHz frequency range and will pick up any FM transmission in that range. (old technology uses 72-74 mHz, and the microfiled can also scan this bandwidht, but this range was recently sold off by FCC to a cellphone company, hence the newly designated 216-217 mHz bandwidth dedicated for ALDs).
(Unfortunately, Phonak does not list the Microfield, but I have a microfield receiver, and have seen them in operation)

Police scanners could also work if they scan a wide enough range of frequencies.

The most important criteria is to be within 100-300 feet of these extremely short-distance transmitters.

If an audience member wearing a microfield can detect such a transmission, it would be interesting to observe hopw the bush campaign respond to such evidence.

FYI, if you are interested in how high quality "pirated copy" or bootleg recordings of concerts are achived, it is simply by using an available ALD plugged directly into a recorder. If the listener could also record Bush Handlers talking to Bush, this would be excellent evidence.

Perhaps some-one can test this hypothesis at the next debate doing this. Please forward this suggestion to interested persons going to the Ohio, St. Louis and Pheonix debates.

 

[CycloWizard]

Nice of you to leave out the author... "author: dr spock"

As for the debate being 'rigged', I know (indirectly) two people that were selected to be part of the 100 members of the 'town hall meeting' for this debate. I'll be sure to see what they have to say about how the questions were taken and handled.

 

[conjur]

Get a life, Cyclo. I copied the heading and then cut-n-pasted the content...excuse the piss out of me if I missed the author line. Who cares of the nick of the person who posted that?

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: conjur
Get a life, Cyclo. I copied the heading and then cut-n-pasted the content...excuse the piss out of me if I missed the author line. Who cares of the nick of the person who posted that?

You left the title out of the quote to make it sound definitive. Plus, it gave you an excuse to leave out the fact that it's some web post by a guy named Dr. Spock. If you're going to present the text, present it as-is without the spin.

 

[element]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
i remember watching bush say this during the first debate, and i was wondering WHO was he talking to? who would interrupt the president during the presidential debate?


i didn't pay too much mind to it, but now they are saying that bush might have had an earpiece talking to his advisers. i'm thinking they must be a left wing twist to the story, but who did bush's camp say he was talking to?

Well actually, you forgot Poland. He was talking to Poland.

 

[gutharius]

I was watching the debate on MSNBC's internet feed, just now, and I thought I noticed a white wire going along the back of bush's neck and down into his collar. Does anyone have a higher res video cap of the candidates as they are walking to their podiums and getting setup. You can see it, just for a moment, when bush has his face turned down at the podium.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6149899/

Towards the bottom of the page is the Launch button for the prediential debate. I had it zoomed full screen.

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.isbushwired.com/

PHANTOM VOICE: The French are going to provide advice...

PRESIDENT BUSH: Listen, the French are going to provide great advice. President Chirac has got good judgment about the Middle East, and he understands those countries well. The French are going to work together to put out a U.N. Security Council resolution that sends a clear signal the free world is united in helping Iraq. And those are great contributions, for which I am grateful, and so is my nation.
Hope that helps.
Posted by: IGrantius on October 4, 2004 at 12:24 PM |
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On the Real audio link of the Bush/Chirac press conference, the phantom voice occurs at 22:40.
Posted by: IGrantius on October 4, 2004 at 12:32 PM |

Here's the White House link:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news...04/06/20040605-6.a.ram

That was kind of strange

There's also this video of the FOX News clip mentioned on that site:
http://www.canofun.com/blog/vi.../BushAndTheOddSync.wmv

I posted that in another thread up here, too.

That's supposedly an actual capture, no modifications or voiceovers added.

WOAH... btw. it's from CNN not Fox

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur
My what is a hack?


And, Bush's speeches prove even more that he is a failure. If he can't take direction fed to him, how can he make sound judgments on his own?

I think shiner said it best in a response to Infohawk....

At least conjur is blinded by hatred instead of good old fashioned stupidity like you.

With the Hack comment, you used to put fourth some objective info and save us from the unfounded claims and or personal bias...however as of lately you have become nothing more than a clone of Mcowen posting baseless garbage with little or no proof as long as it supports "your guy" and or hurts Bush...

With your latter point, his speeches which are fed to him are generally good, hence my argument that it is obvious the debate was not "fed" since he sucked so badly.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Byung

WOAH... btw. it's from CNN not Fox

edited original post.


And, btw, it's whoa.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

Anyone here notice the the cable on Bush's back in the second debate?

I did notice yet again another cable on Bush's back on his left should blade. It surely wasn't a shirt crease since even when he stretched his arms out wide it didn't even move. Gonna try and get some pictures of it.

 

[conjur]

Looked to me like the outline of a vest (such as a kevlar vest maybe sew into his jacket)

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

The NY Times has picked up the bulge story, and the Bush campaign response is interesting - first they suggested it had been doctored into photographs, then said there simply was no bulge - it was just a ripple in the fabric (which the footage seems to refute).

The campaign confirms, in any case, that President Bush was NOT wearing a bulletproof vest during the first debate.

 

[conjur]

non denial denials?