Leopard Vs Tiger

[Silver Prime]

I'm closing this as it has been derailed into Ruptga VS Silver Prime with no end or winner in sight. It's reached capacity for "I know you are but what am I" nonsense.

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Funny, there seems to be no known match up on the web of this hypothetical fight. If it is allowed, I wonder what info is availiable to share and proves who is the superior in combat...


(Sumatran Tiger)

The Sumatran tiger is one of the smallest tiger subspecies. Males weigh 100 to 140*kg (220 to 310*lb)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatran_tiger


Vs


(leopard)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard


Historic accounts

Scene at Wallace's Winter Quarters Outrivals Description Menagerie is In an Uproar. Special to News - Democrat Peru, Ind., Feb. 6. A battle to the death, amid the roaring of lions, tigers, jaguars, hyenas and bears, occurred in the rehearing area at one Hagenbeck - Wallace circus winter quarters a few days ago. The combatants were a big Bengal tiger and a young leopard, and the latter still lives, having clawed out the vitals of the larger beast. The conflict lasted fully thirty minutes and was witnessed by thirty men, all of whom were powerless to separate the combatants. The big tiger was the one seen In Hagenbeck's show at the St. Louis exposition and had always been hard to control. The tiger was valued at $1,000. Yesterday, for the first time this winter, the trainer, Philip Casting, attempted a rehearsal. All the animals used In the big act were brought into the arena and all seemed as tame as pets except the tiger. Immediately on reaching the arena the big brute became vicious and attempted to strike the trainer, who forced the animal Into a corner. Casting then went ahead with the rehearsal. As soon as his back was turned the tiger struck the leopard, which sat on a box near by. The smaller animals struck back and then the battle began. Twice the leopard fastened Its teeth In the tiger's neck and was thrown off. Anticipating a fierce struggle, Casting hurried the other animals out of the arena and then gave his attention to the fighting beasts. The tiger sprang at him and he was forced to quit the arena in order to escape with his life. The leopard tried to get away but was not quick enough. The tiger tossed the leopard In the air a couple of times and beat the smaller animal with Its large paws overthe head almost to Insensibility but finally the, smaller animal got its second wind and fought both ferociousness that was remarkable. While being held down the leopard clawed the tiger's breast until there were great wide gashes in the big ani mal, which soon began to weaken. Continuing its clawing, the leopard, finished its enemy by tearing out the tiger's vital organs. Then the leopard, torn and bleeding, fell exhausted beside the dead body of its adversary. The trainer and other attaches of the circus say the growls and howls and howls of the other animals during the battle were terrific and the excitement was intense.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...wspapers.com&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


But quick as the Bengal tiger had been, the panther was quicker. All thought of Jealousy vanished at Eight of the attack on his mistress. Before the tiger coulduse tooth or claw the lithe, strong-limbed panther had launched himself right at the tiger's throat. Over and over on the floor of the cage the two great cats rolled. Ordinarily the panther ?would have been no match for the far larger tiger. But the panther had caught his grip first, settling his sharp, deep-biting teeth in the tiger's throat. This prevented the tiger's using his teeth effectually. But his claws, especially those on his strong hind legs, could be used. Again and again he struck out with them, ripping through the panther's skin like a soft glove. But he could not shake the deadly grip Chita had on his throat. Although he might be torn to pieces by the great claws. Chita meant to hold on until he felt his teeth meet in his opponent's windpipe. And through all the terrible struggle. Diogenes, the Numldlan lion, sat on his pedestal, lazy, goodnatured, only calmly Interested in the life and death fight of his fierce fellow pupils. "When the circus men separated the two big cats the Bengal tiger was dead, and the black panther, torn In twenty pieces, was dying. Carmen was unhurt, except for a few slight bruises caused by her fall on the floor of the cage.

~The San Francisco Call 3 July 1904 › Page 12
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...osure+fought&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


(Herman Boger of Hagenbeck had a leopard named Puss ripped out a bengals throat)

As I increased my group by bringing in new animals, of course, there were troubles. The creatures would fight, at times, and I had to make peace with the whip and the pistol. I have never used any red hot irons and don't approve of them. Sometimes a beast was killed. One of my very best performers is a leopard that has killed a cheetah, two boarhounds, a tiger and a polar bear,
http://books.google.com/books?id=-i...a=X&ei=DiqRU67xMI74oASHnoLgCQ&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA


Leopard named Beauty kills bengal named Rajah
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...roat+leopard&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


Leopards are known to attack and kill tigers
http://books.google.com/books?id=xz...X&ei=34iQUIHyAoXBiwL31oCoCA&ved=0CEsQ6AEwCDhk


leopard kills and stalemates tiger:
http://books.google.com/books?id=07...a=X&ei=A4mRUrvsB8_3oASx2oHADw&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAg


Two leopards stale mates tiger:
http://books.google.com/books?id=0I...a=X&ei=Nuj6UuaFCcXZ2QXUsIDoAQ&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAA


Small leopard kills huge bengal witnessed by Louis roth:
http://www.worthpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Louis-Roth.jpg

Tigers advantages: Heavier, Longer, Taller
Leopards advantages: Faster, more agile, more cunning

The leopard is one of the most diverse predators, still in competition with tigers, lions, cheetahs, hyenas, baboons, crocs and more, I think the leopard stands a 8/10 chance of beating a sumatran tiger since afterall, small female leopards have shown to have killed full grown male bengal tigers one of the largest of sub-species of tigers who are twice the size and strength of a sumatran.


African lion vs Grizzly bear seems much definitive as well:
http://teamauthority.myfastforum.org/African_Lion_vs_Grizzly_Bear_about729.html

 

[gotsmack]

But what about a Tiger vs a Hippo?

 

[JEDIYoda]

A tiger verses a full grown adult Wolverine.....

 

[Maximilian]

VS

Animals suck

 

[positivedoppler]

What about a leopard vs a leper?

 

[ElFenix]

damn you maximilian, came in here to post that

 

[KLin]

Tigers will fuck all their shit up. Especially those overgrown pussy cats known as lions.

 

[Ruptga]

How about this time we cut to the chase and just ban this guy on page one? Consider: three months of trolling and several idiotic 500 post threads where a full 200 posts are just the OP's unhinged ramblings interspersed with disjointed images, all that can be averted right now with the push of a button.

 

[Silver Prime]

How about this time we cut to the chase and just ban this guy on page one? Consider: three months of trolling and several idiotic 500 post threads where a full 200 posts are just the OP's unhinged ramblings interspersed with disjointed images, all that can be averted right now with the push of a button.

Ha ha ha ha, yeah because the off topic section here is just full of champion stuff. Go back to fantasizing about Bigfoot...you know.. fictional things, things that you're use to ranting about:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2392991&highlight=


As if... science such as paleontology has over a 100 different types of dinosaur bones, and not a single bigfoot skeleton, hair sample, bone and scat remains? Obviously you're hopes and dreams are beyound childish, they're ilogical and plain right out stupid. Predators would have exposed him long ago, pumas and bears would have had conflicts with bigfoot and by their ecological food preybase, they kill animals much larger than big foot, atleast 10 bigfoots would be found dead each year on that statistics alone, thousands of bears and mountain lions get killed each decade, yet not one big foot?

Give me a fucking break. GTFOOH ya dumb troll.

 

[waffleironhead]

Tigers will fuck all their shit up. Especially those overgrown pussy cats known as lions.

No way. The leopard will kill the lion and wear its skin while killing the tiger. Thus fooling people into thinking lions are great while hiding the fact that the leopard is indeed the best killer ever.

 

[Silver Prime]

No way. The leopard will kill the lion and wear its skin while killing the tiger. Thus fooling people into thinking lions are great while hiding the fact that the leopard is indeed the best killer ever.

(Leopard stalemates bengal)

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...in-mudumalai-tiger-reserve/article1452183.ece


The leopard is slowly moving up the ladder in being called the best killer ever, still has to get past the pumas track record of killing brown bears, but as for puma/leopard sizes, they show they are atleast P4P more formidable than a tiger or jaguar...

 

[arkcom]

Who would win in a fight between Bigfoot and Yeti?

 

[Silver Prime]

Quite amazing the size differences in the bengal and sumatran:

And yet leopards have documented killing bengals more than any subspecies of tiger so far.

Who would win in a fight between Bigfoot and Yeti?

Even if big foot did exist. (Hypothetically) Whats the whole statistics on bigfoot/yet? Is their even a biological standard? What does he average in mass and height? Last time I checked he was 7 foot tall and 400 lbs...something a silver back can easily outweigh 810 lbs was the guiness record holder for a S.B, and 7 feet tall? Roughly the same size/height as shack oniel...tons of other humans have by far exceeded those dimensions, tallest man 9 feet tall...I mean look at andre the giant...a pro wrestler. But overall, a big cat would handle the fictional bigfoot just fine, as theyre relatives go down without the slightest accord:

PANTHER BEATS HUGE GORILLA

But Victor Defies Efforts To Tend Wounds Received In Gory Battle SPOKANE, July 23 —(JP>— A sleek, powerful black panther, who tore a 300-pound gorilla apart in a long gory struggle, paced back and forth in his cage today, defying- efforts to tend wounds he suffered in the fight. The panther slipped under an unlatched 'gate at a 'wild animal show last night and pounced on the ape in an adjoining cage while nearly 400 • spectators watched in terror. ; They founght for more than two hours and at the end, the gorilla was shot and killed by attendants who were unable to separate them. The panther had torn off the gorilla's right arm and was clawing and chewing at his victim as the ape fought flat on his 'back. A huge lion in an adjacent cage slammed against his bars in an attempt to get •• into the fight. Shrieks of pain and .anger -from the battlecage Could be heard for almost a mile. ' . Sheriff Ralph Smith made a personal inspection of all the cages today and said he would permit the show to go on.. He said he wassatisfied that all were strong enough to keep the-animals from getting free. . The show was held at Liberty lake resort, 15 miles east?- of here. An attendant, who was discharged today, had left a connecting gate open between the cages, permitting the panther to get at the ape. . Ruby Smith, -trainer and part owner of the show, said the animals had been "feuding" since the cat tried to claw a'- the gorilla through the bars- three weeks ago
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...+gorilla+arm&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


(Leopards killed 4+ gorillas)
http://www.berggorilla.org/en/gorillas/general/everyday-life/do-gorillas-have-enemies/

 

[Ruptga]

Ha ha ha ha, yeah because the off topic section here is just full of champion stuff. Go back to fantasizing about Bigfoot...you know.. fictional things, things that you're use to ranting about:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2392991&highlight=


As if... science such as paleontology has over a 100 different types of dinosaur bones, and not a single bigfoot skeleton, hair sample, bone and scat remains? Obviously you're hopes and dreams are beyound childish, they're ilogical and plain right out stupid. Predators would have exposed him long ago, pumas and bears would have had conflicts with bigfoot and by their ecological food preybase, they kill animals much larger than big foot, atleast 10 bigfoots would be found dead each year on that statistics alone, thousands of bears and mountain lions get killed each decade, yet not one big foot?

Give me a fucking break. GTFOOH ya dumb troll.

I give you an E for effort, which is of course somewhere between a D and an F.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36572763&postcount=9

Actually, even though you could be forgiven for not realizing it's a parody, did you not notice the bit under the picture, which one of our mods so graciously made obvious?

Now go away. We all know your schtick and it's just annoying. Leave us to our puns and bad parodies.

 

[Silver Prime]

I give you an E for effort, which is of course somewhere between a D and an F.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36572763&postcount=9

Actually, even though you could be forgiven for not realizing it's a parody, did you not notice the bit under the picture, which one of our mods so graciously made obvious?

Now go away. We all know your schtick and it's just annoying. Leave us to our puns and bad parodies.

And I'll give you a solid F, for Fucking stupid. Excuse me, but did I go into your (wap) thread and cry like a bitch to the mods to ban your parody (fanboyish waste of time on a stupid topic)? No, this is my thread, you get the fuck out....bitch.


B (Back) O (on) T (Topic):

What about pound for pound," I asked the animal expert who has spent most of his life 'bringing 'em back alive.' "There's only one answer for that one," Buck said. "It is the black leopard, a pack of dynamite which is always looking for a fight, a lightweight that even the tiger ducks.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...fought+tiger&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1

 

[Ruptga]

Well I was going to just walk away, but when you put it that way :wub:

I think I'll stick around, for now.

Oh, and have you noticed that there are 0 on topic replies? It's just you in here talking to yourself; this thread will fall by the wayside as soon as we get tired of poking at you, unless some patsy wanders in here first. Maybe you'll get lucky.

 

[Silver Prime]

Well I was going to just walk away, but when you put it that way :wub:

I think I'll stick around, for now.

Oh, and have you noticed that there are 0 on topic replies? It's just you in here talking to yourself; this thread will fall by the wayside as soon as we get tired of poking at you, unless some patsy wanders in here first. Maybe you'll get lucky.

Suit yourself, I like watching people contradict the fuck out of themselves, as it all falls back onto that person highlighting his/you own inner qualitys. 0 replies? Jesus I just started this thread only an hour or so ago, and its not like I want the whole 100 thousand people on here to reply directly to me, its about sharing thoughts and its doin fine, as again its merely in the off topic section. You on the other hand have 5,000 + post of bigfoot, ghost, bullshit and parodys aka the sole merits of wasting time, having no life, being a true troll, and all the other things you idiots like to boust out...*ahem* ...cuntradicting your whole purpose of posting in the first place...which is what again?

Oh yeah, nothing... you have no purpose. Go ahead and troll on, doesnt bother me, last time I checked it actually aids the classic notion of...Bump. If you wanna bump the thread by all means, troll on.


(B.O.T)

The tiger is a bi-pedal fighter, the leopard doesnt care for this tactics, it rushes in clinches and hangs on tearing primarily for the throat and vital areas, while the tiger will dance around the ring swating with rapid but feeble paw swipes/blows that do minimal damage, the leopard will jet in and go straight for the kill, the leopard also has the advantage of being smaller, as goes a harder target to hit, while the bigger tiger the opposite, as hes a much easier target to latch onto being also slower upon the evasion, smaller things have more dexterity in movement and are more durable in the sense of flexability.

The african leopard is use to a more frequent inter-specific conflict, via more fights equals a more apt gameness.

 

[StoutMaster]

The Bengals suck. They've been making the playoffs fairly regularly but shit...
The Lions are worse. Way more talent but can't find the playoffs with a flashlight.
Then there are the Jaguars. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. They get beat by everyone. Man or beast.

If I were a member of any of those species I'd sue those teams sure as if I were a beloved patriot.

 

[Silver Prime]

The Bengals suck. They've been making the playoffs fairly regularly but shit...
The Lions are worse. Way more talent but can't find the playoffs with a flashlight.
Then there are the Jaguars. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. They get beat by everyone. Man or beast.

If I were a member of any of those species I'd sue those teams sure as if I were a beloved patriot.

Detroit lion sucks, no superbowl rings for them. Interesting to note, the lion owned by Clyde beatty was going to be the teams mascot:

http://books.google.com/books?id=cd...a=X&ei=fa3cU7SaCYShogScroH4Bw&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA

Heres a photo of the lion:

That lion named Prince killed three tigers (females) named Sleika the 2nd, Rosie and Sheba:
http://books.google.com/books?id=OR...a=X&ei=S3DtUufQKMj6oAT1wIHABw&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAg


Funny too...Clyde beatty also had a lion named Detroit that killed 3 tigers as well in 1936, heres one of them:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...wspapers.com&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1

Detroit killed three of them (All females), Alice a siberian, and two bengals Sleika the first and Empress. It seems 3 is Clyde beattys lions lucky numbers, as Bosstweeds even more so grand as he fought and killed 3 bengal tigers in a single 3 vs 1 fight (gender male/female unknown):
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...three+tigers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


The more well known lion that killed three tigers who was owned by Clyde beatty was named Caesar, as he was suppose to be shown fighting the tiger named Bobby in Clydes movie "The Big cage":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLpFrTto4jw

Though that was not Caesar we see fighting, Caesar killed bobby so fast they didnt have enough footage, nor were they about to show Caesar gruesomely ripping open Bobbys throat, (what we see is a 3rd fight) as the 2nd fight was similar of a lion named Sultan who killed a tiger named Tommy before they could capture any useful footage for the movie, both Sultan and Caesar had large belly manes, the one lion in the movie has no belly mane. Caesar killed 2 more tigers later in a performance killing both almost instantly...which makes the three tigers he killed in as of the killers Caesar, Prince, Detroit and Bosstweeds, the four horse men of death all killing 3 tigers each.

 

[Ichinisan]

Don't do this.

...or this.

 

[Engineer]

 

[JulesMaximus]

Sharknado > *

It is a well known fact that the only thing that can defeat a sharknado is Ian Ziering.

 

[Bulk Beef]

Who the fuck let your goofy ass back in here?

 

[Eileenfurst]

Funny, there seems to be no known match up on the web of this hypothetical fight. If it is allowed, I wonder what info is availiable to share and proves who is the superior in combat...


(Sumatran Tiger)

The Sumatran tiger is one of the smallest tiger subspecies. Males weigh 100 to 140*kg (220 to 310*lb)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatran_tiger


Vs


(leopard)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard


Historic accounts

Scene at Wallace's Winter Quarters Outrivals Description Menagerie is In an Uproar. Special to News - Democrat Peru, Ind., Feb. 6. A battle to the death, amid the roaring of lions, tigers, jaguars, hyenas and bears, occurred in the rehearing area at one Hagenbeck - Wallace circus winter quarters a few days ago. The combatants were a big Bengal tiger and a young leopard, and the latter still lives, having clawed out the vitals of the larger beast. The conflict lasted fully thirty minutes and was witnessed by thirty men, all of whom were powerless to separate the combatants. The big tiger was the one seen In Hagenbeck's show at the St. Louis exposition and had always been hard to control. The tiger was valued at $1,000. Yesterday, for the first time this winter, the trainer, Philip Casting, attempted a rehearsal. All the animals used In the big act were brought into the arena and all seemed as tame as pets except the tiger. Immediately on reaching the arena the big brute became vicious and attempted to strike the trainer, who forced the animal Into a corner. Casting then went ahead with the rehearsal. As soon as his back was turned the tiger struck the leopard, which sat on a box near by. The smaller animals struck back and then the battle began. Twice the leopard fastened Its teeth In the tiger's neck and was thrown off. Anticipating a fierce struggle, Casting hurried the other animals out of the arena and then gave his attention to the fighting beasts. The tiger sprang at him and he was forced to quit the arena in order to escape with his life. The leopard tried to get away but was not quick enough. The tiger tossed the leopard In the air a couple of times and beat the smaller animal with Its large paws overthe head almost to Insensibility but finally the, smaller animal got its second wind and fought both ferociousness that was remarkable. While being held down the leopard clawed the tiger's breast until there were great wide gashes in the big ani mal, which soon began to weaken. Continuing its clawing, the leopard, finished its enemy by tearing out the tiger's vital organs. Then the leopard, torn and bleeding, fell exhausted beside the dead body of its adversary. The trainer and other attaches of the circus say the growls and howls and howls of the other animals during the battle were terrific and the excitement was intense.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...wspapers.com&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


But quick as the Bengal tiger had been, the panther was quicker. All thought of Jealousy vanished at Eight of the attack on his mistress. Before the tiger coulduse tooth or claw the lithe, strong-limbed panther had launched himself right at the tiger's throat. Over and over on the floor of the cage the two great cats rolled. Ordinarily the panther ?would have been no match for the far larger tiger. But the panther had caught his grip first, settling his sharp, deep-biting teeth in the tiger's throat. This prevented the tiger's using his teeth effectually. But his claws, especially those on his strong hind legs, could be used. Again and again he struck out with them, ripping through the panther's skin like a soft glove. But he could not shake the deadly grip Chita had on his throat. Although he might be torn to pieces by the great claws. Chita meant to hold on until he felt his teeth meet in his opponent's windpipe. And through all the terrible struggle. Diogenes, the Numldlan lion, sat on his pedestal, lazy, goodnatured, only calmly Interested in the life and death fight of his fierce fellow pupils. "When the circus men separated the two big cats the Bengal tiger was dead, and the black panther, torn In twenty pieces, was dying. Carmen was unhurt, except for a few slight bruises caused by her fall on the floor of the cage.

~The San Francisco Call 3 July 1904 › Page 12
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...osure+fought&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


(Herman Boger of Hagenbeck had a leopard named Puss ripped out a bengals throat)

As I increased my group by bringing in new animals, of course, there were troubles. The creatures would fight, at times, and I had to make peace with the whip and the pistol. I have never used any red hot irons and don't approve of them. Sometimes a beast was killed. One of my very best performers is a leopard that has killed a cheetah, two boarhounds, a tiger and a polar bear,
http://books.google.com/books?id=-i...a=X&ei=DiqRU67xMI74oASHnoLgCQ&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA


Leopard named Beauty kills bengal named Rajah
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...roat+leopard&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&prmd=ivns&strip=1


Leopards are known to attack and kill tigers
http://books.google.com/books?id=xz...X&ei=34iQUIHyAoXBiwL31oCoCA&ved=0CEsQ6AEwCDhk


leopard kills and stalemates tiger:
http://books.google.com/books?id=07...a=X&ei=A4mRUrvsB8_3oASx2oHADw&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAg


Two leopards stale mates tiger:
http://books.google.com/books?id=0I...a=X&ei=Nuj6UuaFCcXZ2QXUsIDoAQ&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAA


Small leopard kills huge bengal witnessed by Louis roth:
http://www.worthpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Louis-Roth.jpg

Tigers advantages: Heavier, Longer, Taller
Leopards advantages: Faster, more agile, more cunning

The leopard is one of the most diverse predators, still in competition with tigers, lions, cheetahs, hyenas, baboons, crocs and more, I think the leopard stands a 8/10 chance of beating a suamtran tiger since afterall, small female leopards have shown to have killed full grown male bengal tigers one of the largest of sub-species of tigers who are twice the size and strength of a sumatran.

i like to tiger wallpaper for decorate my desktop background
http://coolhdwall.com/animals-wallpaper/wide-tiger-animal-full-wallpaper.html

 

[Rakehellion]