LEO enters fenced yard, gets barked at, and shoots himself

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norseamd

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That's possible, it's a lot less likely than being shot if you point a gun at him though.

he also might not get to go home

you need to start making cops aware that they might have consequences for their behavior if you want everyone to live normally without cops causing hate and oppression
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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he also might not get to go home

you need to start making cops aware that they might have consequences for their behavior if you want everyone to live normally without cops causing hate and oppression

You know cops are ordinary citizens right?


Some of you guys need some serious help, you sound like Charles Manson, a psycho.
 

WelshBloke

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he also might not get to go home

you need to start making cops aware that they might have consequences for their behavior if you want everyone to live normally without cops causing hate and oppression

If everyone starts pointing guns at cops when they come to the door they won't stop coming to the door they'll just use the full paramilitary approach instead.

I'm all for holding bad cops to account but treating them all as the enemy isn't the way to fix things.
 

norseamd

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You know cops are ordinary citizens right?

you are right

lots of americans have commited hate crimes as well as war crimes while serving in the military overseas

in fact a lot of military veterans end up as law enforcement officers after they leave the military
 

norseamd

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If everyone starts pointing guns at cops when they come to the door they won't stop coming to the door they'll just use the full paramilitary approach instead. I'm all for holding bad cops to account but treating them all as the enemy isn't the way to fix things.

so there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of right wing fundamentalists with guns

something like that would case them to consider shooting any government workers on sight

also there are a lot of left wing activists who like to film any law enforcement

the nra already is very powerful.. think about how much more powerful they would become and they would bank
 

MongGrel

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The cop did it wrong, usually I wouldn't say it but he almost deserves it for doing it that badly.
 

waggy

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Evictions aren't time sensitive?

Yes and no.

Yes in they want the people out ASAP. No as in they idiot cop could have taken an hour to call animal control. its not a major issue to give the damn thing a little while latter.

it was not so time sensitive as to kill a dog that was not attacking.
 

Jaskalas

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You look at the video and learn a few things. To access the front door you must enter the fenced in yard and be subjected to the dog.

How should policy change, let it be known that officers can shoot any dog on their way to the front door, or should they have to wait for a professional to peacefully handle the dog?
 
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People like you are amusing. Just a bunch of scared little pussies who talk tough on the internet but would piss their pants if ever faced with any actual threat of danger.

I gather he's just trolling. If not, he is suffering from a truly crippling level of paranoia and delusions of persecution.
 

NoStateofMind

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You know cops are ordinary citizens right?


Some of you guys need some serious help, you sound like Charles Manson, a psycho.

Not ordinary 'citizens' at all, frankly. Where do you think all the animosity comes from? Simply because of their job? No it's deeper than that. Ordinary 'citizens' get long term sentences from killing people/animals but that's not the case with police. Ignorance of things like this takes a special kind of stupid.
 

NoStateofMind

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Is that the same kind of ignorance as believing there could be a trust worthy, compassionate, and sharing society without goverment.

Is that the same kind of ignorance as believing there could be a trust worthy, compassionate, and sharing society with government.
 
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You know cops are ordinary citizens right?


Some of you guys need some serious help, you sound like Charles Manson, a psycho.



Modern LEO are absolutely not ordinary citizens.


Ordinary citizens cannot shoot someone simply walking towards them "because someone with a knife 30ft away can sprint towards me and kill me in 4 seconds so anyone who is within 30ft = good shoot"

Ordinary citizens can not walk inside a fenced yard for no justified reason and shoot people's dogs.

Ordinary citizens are not de facto believed by judges.
 
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So, what you're saying is that if a LEO showed up at your door unannounced, you're going to shoot because certainly no LEO could ever have any reason to knock on your door?

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Absolutely not. I give LEO's my full respect when they present themselves appropriately - IE knock on my door, announce themselves, pull me over for a justified reason etc.

This was not a LEO knocking on a door. This was a gang member entering a gated yard, then immediately shooting a family dog. If they weren't comfortable entering the yard then they should call animal control or other officers for backup. Not just immediately whip out penis #2 and start stroking the trigger.


Evictions aren't time sensitive?

Have you ever dealt with an eviction? My last eviction took over two months. It was a HUGE process. The sheriff didn't show up during the first scheduled removal date because he supposedly had to deal with arresting someone he caught with pot. He made me wait almost 3 hours.

Most street cops make $60-$80k/year. That's $30-$40/hour.

From an officer perspective an eviction is not at all time-sensitive. Almost all LEO's in this country are paid hourly. Who cares if they twiddle their thumbs while the taxpayer shells out an extra $40 for an hour of waiting for animal control?



You're telling me that this dog's life is worth less than $40.


Shame on you.


Our dog is our family member. Our back yard is fenced. I am a law abiding tax paying pillar of my community.

If ANYONE came into my fenced back yard and pointed their gun at my dog I would assume they are a thug trying to perform a home invasion and would respond as such.