Lenovo IdeaPad 100s - great little Netbook (Atom Z3735F done right?)

VirtualLarry

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I'm starting another thread about this little device, to comment on its performance.

It's an Atom Z3735F platform, with 2GB RAM, and 32GB eMMC, and Windows 10 32-bit.

Now, I'm not exactly unfamiliar with this platform, it's the same basic Intel hardware reference platform, used by the HP Stream 7 tablet (1GB/32GB), the Winbook TW700 tablet (1GB/16GB), and my MeegoPad T02 Compute Sticks (1GB/32GB).

But the implementation in the IdeaPad 100s is superb. 2GB of RAM, means that you can actually use Skype, and use Firefox to web browse, without paging massively to the eMMC.

Even while on Skype for 10 minutes (something that would bring the MeegoPad T02 to its knees, due to thermal-throttling issues from continuous CPU usage), and web browsing with Firefox, according to Task Manager, the CPU was running at a steady 1.57Ghz. Which means that it has sufficient power / cooling, to run at "Burst" speeds even after extended usage.

My tablets could mostly do this too.

One thing that I couldn't test, was running 64-bit Waterfox, because this hardware runs 32-bit Windows 10 Home, even though the CPU is capable of 64-bit operation, because of Intel's decision to ship a 32-bit UEFI.

I know that on my 64-bit Windows 7, I've A/B tested the newest Waterfox, against the newest official 64-bit Firefox (yes, there's finally a download for an official, non-beta, 64-bit Firefox), and the 64-bit Firefox couldn't handle streaming radio using HTML5 without skipping, while Waterfox handled it fine. (Edit: This on a G3258 @ 4.0, so it wasn't a lack of CPU power causing the issue. Wired ethernet too.)

So I don't know if this is just a regression in recent Firefox code, or a bug in the 64-bit edition, or what, but I noticed that listening to internet radio using HTML5 in Firefox 32-bit on the IdeaPad 100s would also skip.

Now, I should also mention that I was able to listen to internet radio just fine, using Firefox 32-bit (an earlier version) on my MeegoPad T02 running Win10 32-bit Pro, UNTIL a forced update of the Intel video drivers (I was using HDMI output for audio), and after that, it was really messed up.

However, those could be two separate issues. I don't really know.

Web browsing is actually pretty smooth and speedy, on the IdeaPad 100s, even compared to the Winbook TW700 and HP Stream 7. I attribute this to the extra 1GB of RAM that doesn't get immediately eaten by the OS when you boot.
 
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coercitiv

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The title alone suggests this thread belongs in another forum.
That's a better context. My apologies for being picky.

Btw, Firefox is yet to receive the much needed true multithreading support. It was supposed to be out by now (FF 43), but new realistic release target puts it somewhere in mid 2016.
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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This sounds like a very competent little Linux netbook. 32-bit UEFI (why, Intel, WHY?) sounds like a pain in the ass but I at least know how to tell GRUB2.x to do it from an Arch live medium.
 

cbn

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Thanks for the review Virtual Larry.

Have you thought about testing with Linux Mint as well?
 

jhu

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This sounds like a very competent little Linux netbook. 32-bit UEFI (why, Intel, WHY?) sounds like a pain in the ass but I at least know how to tell GRUB2.x to do it from an Arch live medium.

I have the ASUS version of this laptop running 64-bit Debian 8.2. It's pretty trivial installing 64-bit Linux despite having 32-bit UEFI.

As for why, it might be Microsoft's doing. I suspect Windows 10 is either really cheap or $0 for the OEM on these typea of computers.
 

cbn

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I suspect Windows 10 is either really cheap or $0 for the OEM on these typea of computers.

That is probably true.

I will say I am glad this does use the regular Windows 10 (not some kind of Windows 10 with Bing) though.

So installing Linux (Mint, Debian, Ubuntu, etc) can be done without having to make a back up image of the original Windows install AFAIK.

Just get the Windows product key with Belarc advisor and make a Windows 10 disc with the downloadable iso (should the user either want to sell the laptop with Windows, or reinstall Windows for whatever reason).
 
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VirtualLarry

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This sounds like a very competent little Linux netbook. 32-bit UEFI (why, Intel, WHY?) sounds like a pain in the ass but I at least know how to tell GRUB2.x to do it from an Arch live medium.

I just took my Linux Mint 17.3 64-bit Cinnamon bootable USB3.0 stick, added the bootia32.efi file, and was able to boot Mint on it. Unfortunately, nothing worked, except holding down the power button to force power-off. No keyboard / trackpad, nor would it work with a USB RF wireless nano-dongle for my Logitech keyboard / mouse set.

Edit: Someone got further than I with Ubuntu.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/6840...deapad-100s-linux-has-issues-with-this-laptop
 
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jhu

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I just took my Linux Mint 17.3 64-bit Cinnamon bootable USB3.0 stick, added the bootia32.efi file, and was able to boot Mint on it. Unfortunately, nothing worked, except holding down the power button to force power-off. No keyboard / trackpad, nor would it work with a USB RF wireless nano-dongle for my Logitech keyboard / mouse set.

Have you tried just a regular USB keyboard?
 

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That is probably true.

I will say I am glad this does use the regular Windows 10 (not some kind of Windows 10 with Bing) though.

So installing Linux (Mint, Debian, Ubuntu, etc) can be done without having to make a back up image of the original Windows install AFAIK.

Just get the Windows product key with Belarc advisor and make a Windows 10 disc with the downloadable iso (should the user either want to sell the laptop with Windows, or reinstall Windows for whatever reason).

You know that Windows 8.1 with Bing was 100% identical to standard W8.1, right?
 

VirtualLarry

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You know that Windows 8.1 with Bing was 100% identical to standard W8.1, right?

Well, in terms of user functionality, that is true... but in terms of actual product SKUs, and re-installation media, that is NOT true.

Win8.1 w/Bing was an OEM-only release, so you cannot download re-installation media from Microsoft using their media tool, like you can with the other (retail and OEM) variants.