Legalize marijuana, prostitution and polygamy

[gopunk]

<< >>>btw if polygamy is made legal, they shouldn't be allowed to have children. call me bigoted or whatever, i just don't think that's a good environment to have children in. <<<

OK, your a bigot. And an ignorant one at that. You can not now, or ever, justify that comment with fact. >>



ever? why do you say that? you think it's *impossible* that the comment be true?

and what makes you so sure they would be good parents?

 

[snooker]

I wonder why the government has not put it on a National ballot to legalize cannibus. If the people truly do not want it and/or think it would be better off legal, then it would be voted down. No harm done and the people have spoke. If it is voted for then it needs to made legal and everyone who is sitting in jail/prison for any cannibus related offense (Buying or selling)

I myself am not no cannibus user, but if I felt the need to try it, I feel I should be able to do so without worrying that Uncle Sam will come knocking on my door.

I would vote to legalize cannibus not just for medical reasons but for leasure/pleasure like alcohol.

 

"Rotflol,Somehow,the thought of having to deal with cooking,cleaning and laundry for more than one dude isn't appealing at all "

Well, wouldn't it be more appealing if the many men were doing all of the cooking, laundry and all for you ("you" is used generically here)? I for one witnessed this happen where the men rather did the cleaning, cooking, laundry and all. :Q Of course in such society, the woman tended to be the wealthy person, so that might explain why.

Edited for another typo.

 

[Geekbabe]

<< "Rotflol,Somehow,the thought of having to deal with cooking,cleaning and laundry for more than one dude isn't appealing at all "

Well, wouldn't it be more appealing if the many men were doing all of the cooking, laundry and all for you ("you" is used generically here)? I for one witnessed this happen were the men rather did the cleaning, cooking, laundry and all. :Q Of course in such society, the woman tended to be the wealthy person, so that might explain why. >>



lol, actually no, I like taking care of myself and portioning out the tasks I don't like to a service, the scene you're describing would be just too weird, besides I like men, not houseboys

 

[Tripleshot]

>>>ever? why do you say that? you think it's *impossible* that the comment be true?<<<

Yes I do. Why do I say that?

1) I am married to a woman who's father is a product of a polygymist upbringing. My wife and all her sisters and brothers are well adjusted, contibuting members of society, working diligently and raising fine nieces and nephews for me to enjoy. I take care of that fine Patriarch of this family daily,as he is 82 and in frail physical health, but he could mop the floor with you on any moral or ethical foundation for polygamy. You should study up on the subject before spouting your BS opinion. I find it offensive.

2) I live not 30 minutes from two of the largest, open ,practicing ,polygmist communities in the US. I shop at stores with these fine people,and my children have gone to school with many of them and know work side by side with them in some of their jobs.

The only problem with this brand is of polygamy is it is not sanctioned by my Church any longer, and it is difficult for a sister wife to up and leave a relationship that is most often pre arranged by the religous body of the group and deemed an honorable and necessary lifestyle for the preservation of the community and to uphold religous dogma.

You do not have any basis for your comment. Come back when you can refute my "opinion" with FACT!

 

[UltraQuiet]

<< When was the last time you heard of someone being arrested, let alone prosecuted, for committing adultery >>


Happens rather frequently in the military. Unless, of course, you are the Commander-in-Chief.

 

[Amused]

<< "I agree with you on pot and prostitution, however, polygamy has a long history of abuse that causes real harm, and I've yet to see a healthy polygamous relationship that doesn't subjugate the women involved (or what ever sex is in the majority). It also can harm the children involved. Too many mates and too many children = not enough time to properly care for them all the way a real father should. "

Huh? First off, do you care to mention what "real harm" it causes? I have not much knowledge of what you speak of there. Thanks.

Secondly, who said polygamy means only the men can have several wives? Huh? The very definition of that word does not assume the sex of the party who practices it. Perhaps you had polygyny in mind? (Or for the women who practice it, you mean polyandry?)0

In fact, there are and I do know of societies where polygamy is practiced by both women and men. It's funny witnessing a woman with many husbands! :Q

I for one wouldn't be constrained if I wanted more than one husbands. In other words, in a polygamous society, it is possible for women to have rights and not be any more subjugated than men are.

What bugs me is stuff as mentioned by Notfred. The inherent inconsistency. AmusedOne, have you any evidence that the supposedly 50% or at least something close to it divorce rate is any healthier than polygamy? I for one note that now just about every individual married had been previously married. And then there's the "cheating" is normal crap. (It better not be normal with me 'cuz I don't give a rat a$$ for as long as a man commits himself to monogamy, there's absolutely no justification for "cheating".)

The suggestion that polygamy would cause harm to the children, at least emotionally is bull. It only seems so because we are accustomed to a nuclear family, so children grow up with that idea engraved in them. Thus, when such system is interrupted, it interrupts their emotional thought process. However, if kids are raised with the concept of polygamy, I do not think it does any more harm than our current state of affair has. Also, polygamy seems to promote the idea of respect and seniority. There's always the senior spouse who gets all of the respect in decision making. Okay, I won't deny there are issues with polygamy. Nonetheless, I do not think the issues are any worse than our current state of affair is.

Okay, I have little time to carefully respond to other materials, so I'll leave it at that.

Edited for typos. >>



There is a reason why after hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, most cultures on Earth --even those separated for millennia-- adopted monogamy and banned polygamy. There is also a reason why most cultures who continued to practice polygamy were a bit less advanced than those who didn't.

 

[gopunk]

You do not have any basis for your comment. Come back when you can refute my "opinion" with FACT!

dunno why you put "opinion" in quotes...

and i think i already made it clear i don't have any basis for my comment. that's just my feelings on the matter. calm down.

btw, i wasn't even thinking of the brand of polygamy you speak of. i was thinking of all those "free love" hippies

 

[BornStar]

Alright, time to enter this again and pull the focus away from polygamy for a few minutes. I don't think that marijuana should be legal because there will inevitably be a victim; the taxpayers. I'm not saying that all people (or even most people) that smoke pot can't support themselves financially, however, there will be some that see it as just another way to have fun like smoking and drinking. If it were legal, some people on wellfare would be all over it. There has been evidence that smoking pot for extended periods of time causes brain damage. (Sorry, I don't have time to come up with a source right now. If this is ten years old, I apologize.) So, what we've got is people that can't take care of themselves to begin with so Uncle Sam has to help and then they turn around and buy cigarettes, boozed and now marijuana. The marijuana eventually gives them slight brain damage which just lowers them more and now they have no chance to get off wellfare and I have to pay for them the rest of their life. No thank you.

 

[Amused]

<< Alright, time to enter this again and pull the focus away from polygamy for a few minutes. I don't think that marijuana should be legal because there will inevitably be a victim; the taxpayers. I'm not saying that all people (or even most people) that smoke pot can't support themselves financially, however, there will be some that see it as just another way to have fun like smoking and drinking. If it were legal, some people on wellfare would be all over it. >>



You think they aren't now? Do you honestly think people don't do drugs because they're illegal?

I STILL have yet to meet one person who's main, or even signifigant, reason for not doing drugs is the fact that they're illegal.

And this is another damn good reason to dump the welfare state, and most socialism period. When the state pays the bills, it becomes parental and you LOSE freedoms.

 

[gopunk]

<< Alright, time to enter this again and pull the focus away from polygamy for a few minutes. I don't think that marijuana should be legal because there will inevitably be a victim; the taxpayers. I'm not saying that all people (or even most people) that smoke pot can't support themselves financially, however, there will be some that see it as just another way to have fun like smoking and drinking. If it were legal, some people on wellfare would be all over it. There has been evidence that smoking pot for extended periods of time causes brain damage. (Sorry, I don't have time to come up with a source right now. If this is ten years old, I apologize.) So, what we've got is people that can't take care of themselves to begin with so Uncle Sam has to help and then they turn around and buy cigarettes, boozed and now marijuana. The marijuana eventually gives them slight brain damage which just lowers them more and now they have no chance to get off wellfare and I have to pay for them the rest of their life. No thank you. >>



that problem can be easily remedied by getting rid of welfare

most of the damage pot will do in regards to development occurs at a younger age... before 21 or so. if you're 30, and only smoke pot occasionally (ie, you're not wallowing in it 24-7)... i don't think you would be dumbed down too much. i don't know if it causes brain damage... i have heard that it doesn't. but they're pretty sure it arrests development.

 

[Ultima]

<< btw if polygamy is made legal, they shouldn't be allowed to have children. call me bigoted or whatever, i just don't think that's a good environment to have children in. >>



Well according to that logic gay couples and deaf couples (hint hint, you know what I'm referring to here) etc shouldn't be allowed to have kids either. And actually I agree with that.. wtf kind of environment is that to raise a kid?

 

[ttn1]

<< I don't think that marijuana should be legal because there will inevitably be a victim >>



Do you not see how ridiculous that staement is?

In that line of reasoning, noone should be allowed to drive because sooner or later there will
be an accident and somebody will be killed.

I hate bleeding hearts that want everything illegal to protect them from themselves. When will
people grow up and take responsibility for their own actions. Sometimes it's hard to know when you're
protecting people or suffocating them.

And I agree with others in saying do away with welfare. At least in its present form.

I think all of this stuff should be legalized. As for drugs, I think we all know how far the great drug war
in America has gotten us. Maybe, nowhere. Prositution is ripe for corruption. So why not
legalize, regulate and tax. I think the chances of people getting hurt would decrease. As far as
polygamy goes, I say to each his own. If people are adults and want to do it, fine. I do think
there should be a minimum age of consent though. If it's all consenting adults I have no problem withn it.

 

[BornStar]

<< They're either victimless crimes or obsolete ideals with religious strings attached. >>



Perhaps you should actually read the first post before jumping in at the end. It was his whole basis for the marijuana section of the thread.

 

[Moonbeam]

A big part of why i don't do marajuana is because it is illegal.

You can relax kamiam and keep your sig. I'm with Amused on this. I'm proud of you thought that you can support something that I think gives most guys a scare. I think I can get past that part too, but I think the human norm and proper form of family is one mommy and one daddy. It is, however, one of those things I can see may be just an old fashioned prejudice. If I were in a position to affect the lives of others by what I thought in this topic, I would have to dig deeper and try to know for sure. At the moment, though, its the norm for me. I do go for the notion that it takes a village to raise a child.

 

[gopunk]

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<< btw if polygamy is made legal, they shouldn't be allowed to have children. call me bigoted or whatever, i just don't think that's a good environment to have children in. >>



Well according to that logic gay couples and deaf couples (hint hint, you know what I'm referring to here) etc shouldn't be allowed to have kids either. And actually I agree with that.. wtf kind of environment is that to raise a kid? >>



are you referring to the deaf couple that specifically MADE their baby deaf? yes, those nutjobs should be sterilized. anybody that would make their baby be born with a defect should not be having that child in the first place.

with gays however it is different. while the jury is still out, i believe sexuality is not a choice. not to say it is something you are born with, but it is not a conscious decision... whereas polygamy most certainly is, just like monogamy is.