Legalize marijuana, prostitution and polygamy

bandXtrb

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Why not, right?

They're either victimless crimes or obsolete ideals with religious strings attached.
 

minendo

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<< obsolete ideals with religious strings attached. >>


Does that mean murder should be allowed too? Since it is one of the commandments and has reliqious strings attached.
 

gopunk

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why stop with pot? legalize all substances, put them under the same regulations as any other drug.
 

BornStar

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<< Why not, right?

They're either victimless crimes or obsolete ideals with religious strings attached.
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Man, I'd hate to see what you think after you contracted AIDS or some other similarly life threatening STD.
 

gopunk

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<<

<< obsolete ideals with religious strings attached. >>


Does that mean murder should be allowed too? Since it is one of the commandments and has reliqious strings attached.
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no, that doesn't strike me as an obsolete ideal.. it's still relevant.
 

gopunk

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Man, I'd hate to see what you think after you contracted AIDS or some other similarly life threatening STD.

people who want to engage in these behaviors are probably already doing so. i doubt the chances of contracting HIV would be any higher.
 

BornStar

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Right, I would agree with you for the most part, however, it currently takes some work to find them. If you could drive down the street and see a hooker on every street corner, I think people would be more likely to engage. I also believe that the STD rate would go through the roof. It's not worth it.
 

mchammer187

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marijuana - no probs for me ; i would never try it if it was legal but i would vote for legalization

prostitution - i doubt i would either; i think it could work if it was properly regulated i dont think it can be though without corruption so i'm gonna have to go not likely to no

polygamy - i think that is worse than the other 2

 

gopunk

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<< Right, I would agree with you for the most part, however, it currently takes some work to find them. If you could drive down the street and see a hooker on every street corner, I think people would be more likely to engage. I also believe that the STD rate would go through the roof. It's not worth it. >>



if it is legalized, you can license it, just like they do with truck and taxi drivers. i think some other country has done this with some success. a county in nevada does it, and i haven't heard of any HIV epidemic over there.
 

kamiam

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<< The criminal is always the victim in a victimless crime.

nik (thinks you're a troll)
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kam thinks your your brainwashed nick
 

gopunk

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btw if polygamy is made legal, they shouldn't be allowed to have children. call me bigoted or whatever, i just don't think that's a good environment to have children in.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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<< The criminal is always the victim in a victimless crime.

nik (thinks you're a troll)
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kam thinks your your brainwashed nick
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Brainwashed? RUBBISH!

*must... kill... Bart...*

;) :p :D

nik
 

BornStar

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<< if it is legalized, you can license it, just like they do with truck and taxi drivers. i think some other country has done this with some success. a county in nevada does it, and i haven't heard of any HIV epidemic over there. >>



Good point, I didn't really give that much of a thought. I think that they would be very expensive though. Luxury tax, sales tax and sin tax. :D I still think STDs would be much higher even if it were licensed. Honestly, when you want sex, are you really going to make sure they have their license and it's in order?
 

Hehehe! Cmin7, you raise a question that I've been asking for a while. I'm all for legalisation of all three of those things.

And before anyone jumps to conclusion, I don't practice any of the aforementioned.

I am simply in support of it from a historical, societal practice (which is very inconsistent) point of view. I do not think society has a moral ground to criminalise these things as it has.

I have to jet now, so I cannot sit to type up all of my reasoning. I'm sure someone else will touch it.
 

LH

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Fact of the matter is every other modern country has legalised prostitution. Its simple, ban street walking, require prostitutes to be licensed, and to work for a licensed brothel. They can go to their clients place/hotel or inside the brothel. Require monthly tests for STD's and AID's. And of course, manditory condom usage. The US was a pimp twice in the '90s, its why Bush Sr was called a pimp a couple times. The US government seized one of the legalised brothels(I think it was the Moonlight Bunny Ranch), and they never could get it auctioned off so they opened it, ran it for a year, sold it to a company which was allegedly run by the former owener, they siezed it again, ran it for a short time, then shut it down.
 

gopunk

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Good point, I didn't really give that much of a thought. I think that they would be very expensive though. Luxury tax, sales tax and sin tax. :D I still think STDs would be much higher even if it were licensed. Honestly, when you want sex, are you really going to make sure they have their license and it's in order?

the hookers? i have no idea how expensive they would be... i've never really looked into it :p

as for the license, yes i would. while that doesn't necessarily mean most people will.... i don't see why they wouldn't. seems like a low cost for high gain if you ask me.

i think in that county in nevada, girls have to get tested for stds every 3 days and condoms and mandatory. and clients have to undergo some sort of exam (?).

legalization has the potential to lead to an increase in STD rates, but imho, if you do it *right*, it shouldn't make a very large difference.



also, i guarantee you that if we spent a good amount of time and energy in raising the quality of this country's parenting, we would not have to worry about AIDs nearly as much. not to say that children with bad parents automatically get AIDs, but lets face it, well raised children are less likely to engage in risky behavior.
 

notfred

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Note: Polygamy is illegal, but cheating on your wife is not.
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Amused

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<< Why not, right?

They're either victimless crimes or obsolete ideals with religious strings attached.
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I agree with you on pot and prostitution, however, polygamy has a long history of abuse that causes real harm, and I've yet to see a healthy polygamous relationship that doesn't subjugate the women involved (or what ever sex is in the majority). It also can harm the children involved. Too many mates and too many children = not enough time to properly care for them all the way a real father should.

That said, I don't believe the government has any business in marriage. It should be a legal contract between two people.
 

gopunk

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<< Note: Polygamy is illegal, but cheating on your wife is not.
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i thought adultery was illegal?
 

gopunk

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<<

<< Why not, right?

They're either victimless crimes or obsolete ideals with religious strings attached.
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I agree with you on pot and prostitution, however, polygamy has a long history of abuse that causes real harm, and I've yet to see a healthy polygamous relationship that doesn't subjugate the women involved (or what ever sex is in the majority).
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so do you think it should be legalized or not? :p

i think the reason we see what you described is because the societies were male dominated. i think here, we have a much more equitable society, and would not see such exploitation. well at least not the same extent.
 

Amused

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<<

<<

<< Why not, right?

They're either victimless crimes or obsolete ideals with religious strings attached.
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I agree with you on pot and prostitution, however, polygamy has a long history of abuse that causes real harm, and I've yet to see a healthy polygamous relationship that doesn't subjugate the women involved (or what ever sex is in the majority).
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so do you think it should be legalized or not? :p

i think the reason we see what you described is because the societies were male dominated. i think here, we have a much more equitable society, and would not see such exploitation. well at least not the same extent.
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I don't think the government should ban it. However, I don't think it's acceptable. And humans did not evolve with equitable abilities or physical attributes between the sexes. One will always dominate.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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<< Note: Polygamy is illegal, but cheating on your wife is not.
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i thought adultery was illegal?
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having an affair is not illegal, no matter how sick and twisted one is.

nik
 

gopunk

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I don't think the government should ban it. However, I don't think it's acceptable.

i'm pretty much with you. they shouldn't ban it, go ahead and do it if you want, but for god's sake don't have children :p

And humans did not evolve with equitable abilities or physical attributes between the sexes. One will always dominate.

that may be, but i think the gap is growing smaller and smaller as our society moves further away from physically oriented activities.