Legality of downloading mp3's of a broken cd you own...

aphex

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Just curious as to what the current belief is....

My old cd drive destroyed a cd while i was trying to rip it, am i legally entitled to download the mp3's?
 

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Originally posted by: aphex
Just curious as to what the current belief is....

My old cd drive destroyed a cd while i was trying to rip it, am i legally entitled to download the mp3's?

Yes. But if you're at college, don't be suprised if your uni sends you a cease and desist letter under the pressure of the RIAA.
 
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Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: aphex
Just curious as to what the current belief is....

My old cd drive destroyed a cd while i was trying to rip it, am i legally entitled to download the mp3's?

Yes. But if you're at college, don't be suprised if your uni sends you a cease and desist letter under the pressure of the RIAA.

I'd send them back a photograph of me with the legally purchased CD in one hand and a single raised finger in the other, personally.

- M4H
 

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: aphex
Just curious as to what the current belief is....

My old cd drive destroyed a cd while i was trying to rip it, am i legally entitled to download the mp3's?

Yes. But if you're at college, don't be suprised if your uni sends you a cease and desist letter under the pressure of the RIAA.

I'd send them back a photograph of me with the legally purchased CD in one hand and a single raised finger in the other, personally.

- M4H
dunno about you, but my college looks the other way as long as you don't upload.
 

aphex

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im not on my college network, so dont worry :)

I was mainly curious because im hoping to go to law school and specialize in this field....
 
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Anyone find it more convenient to download a CD to their harddrive instead of ripping it? It would take longer to rip it than it would to dl it
 

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Anyone find it more convenient to download a CD to their harddrive instead of ripping it? It would take longer to rip it than it would to dl it

Takes me less than 8 minutes to rip a CD, and as a bonus, I'm ripping at a specific bitrate from CDs that are scratch-free, so I know I'm getting the good sh!t.
 

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Anyone find it more convenient to download a CD to their harddrive instead of ripping it? It would take longer to rip it than it would to dl it

I normally rip all of my CDs instead of download. That way I know what quality it will be and I don't need to worry about spyware, viruses and such.
 

RyanM

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Oh, and ripping it yourself ensure all the ID3 and ID3V2 tags are ACTUALLY CORRECT.

I hate that.
 
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What programs do you use to rip? Maybe CD-ex is just really slow....but it takes a minimum of 1-2 min per song. It could possibly be my drive too (8x dvd/32x cd iirc)
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
What programs do you use to rip? Maybe CD-ex is just really slow....but it takes a minimum of 1-2 min per song. It could possibly be my drive too (8x dvd/32x cd iirc)

I use CDex and rip at 224 AVBR (192 min, 320 max), off a Lite-On 48x read drive. It takes about 15 minutes for a full 80 min CD.

What're your rip settings and encoding settings?
 

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Originally posted by: Alienwho
I see no qualms with it. You own it.

They stress that you are allowed to make backups of the CD you own. So by their definition, the mp3s you have are backups.
 
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Originally posted by: MachFive
Oh, and ripping it yourself ensure all the ID3 and ID3V2 tags are ACTUALLY CORRECT.

I hate that.

I second the hatred and offer a CD where the sun don't shine to the retarded no0blArs who do the ID3 tags improperly.

- M4H
 
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Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
What programs do you use to rip? Maybe CD-ex is just really slow....but it takes a minimum of 1-2 min per song. It could possibly be my drive too (8x dvd/32x cd iirc)

I use CDex and rip at 224 AVBR (192 min, 320 max), off a Lite-On 48x read drive. It takes about 15 minutes for a full 80 min CD.

What're your rip settings and encoding settings?

Think the default settings - MPEG1 or 2 iirc, not a VBR mp3, just normal, single khz mp3.
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
What programs do you use to rip? Maybe CD-ex is just really slow....but it takes a minimum of 1-2 min per song. It could possibly be my drive too (8x dvd/32x cd iirc)

I use CDex and rip at 224 AVBR (192 min, 320 max), off a Lite-On 48x read drive. It takes about 15 minutes for a full 80 min CD.

What're your rip settings and encoding settings?

Think the default settings - MPEG1 or 2 iirc, not a VBR mp3, just normal, single khz mp3.

What bitrate, and how fast is your processor? Those are probably the biggest factors. Back when I ripped at 160, it wouldn't take more than 45 seconds.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
128 - I can't notice a difference above that. C2-566@850 I think. 320mb ram

Either your deaf or have crappy speakers, cause 128 sounds like ass :)
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
128 - I can't notice a difference above that. C2-566@850 I think. 320mb ram

C2? Is that a Cyrix?

<repairman>
There's your problem. It's set to evil!
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Seriously though. On my P3 750 MHz, 768 Megs of RAM, a 160 would rip at around 2 to 3 minutes per song. On my Athlon 1800+, I'm looking at 30 to 45 seconds for those. It's half the reason I re-ripped my CD collection at 224 AVBR.
 

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Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
128 - I can't notice a difference above that. C2-566@850 I think. 320mb ram

C2? Is that a Cyrix?

<repairman>
There's your problem. It's set to evil!
</repairman>

Seriously though. On my P3 750 MHz, 768 Megs of RAM, a 160 would rip at around 2 to 3 minutes per song. On my Athlon 1800+, I'm looking at 30 to 45 seconds for those. It's half the reason I re-ripped my CD collection at 224 AVBR.

I think he's refering to Celeron 2, FCPGA socket. Anyhow, I always rip at 160bps, there's absolutely no reason to go higher.