Legality of a hypnotist comedy show?

Jugernot

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Went and saw a comic by the name of Rich Guzzi last night and I have to say it was the raunchist hypnotist show I've ever seen. He asked for volunteers and only 6 people went up on the stage, he says he is going to start the show and if anyone in the audience starts to nod off during the induction phase, you should let his assitant know as they are subconsciencely being hypnotised. Anyway, he starts and several people in the audience start nodding off.... including my wife. His assitant wakes them up and tells to goto the stage, at this point my wife looks at me and says "Honey, I can't move my arms! What's going on?" and walks upto the stage (he was doing an arm exercise. He does some exercises to see who is more suseptible and sends several people back to the audience... including my wife. They have 5 guys and girls now.

Anyway, for the next 1.5 hours, he proceeds to have these random people do some raunchy stuff. Dry humping each other, rubbing each others jibbly bits, etc. (two guys were rubbing one girls stuff at the same time) He even had them all do orgasms on the stage....

At one point he has them all do exotic dances and the girls start stripping. Most just bra showing and panties, but one girl shows her boobs and ass. They do lap dances out in the audience for members who hold up $1 bills.

After he brings them out of the hyponosis, a couple of the woman look in their shirts and find the $1 bills... and start freaking out. They start asking "What did he have me do?" One girl, one of the ones who didn't volunteer, said she hurt he knee and back and ripped her pants. Another guy apparently was very angry when his wife told him of the antics on the stage.

None of these people signed waivers and just under half didn't even volunteer. I knew 1 of the guys and 2 of the girls, they all said they would NEVER had done some of the things they did and were pissed he had them strip. One of the girls husband was noticably angry with his wife.

What is the legality of hypnosis? Since they didn't sign waivers... does the law say they are responsible because the hypnotist didn't physically make them do it? A couple of the people were clearly shaken up and upset at some of the things he made them do.

What do you guys think?

Cliffs:
Went and saw a hypnotist comic
He got 10 random people to do raunchy stuff up on stage including strip and show boobs, etc.
Many of them were pissed afterwards because they said they would have never done it otherwise.


PS: My wife said for the life of her, she COULD NOT move her arms until he got her up on stage and released her. She swears that she wasn't playing and had no prior knowledge of the act.

EDIT:

Link to local comedy circuit with more info on Rich Guzzi.
 

blackdogdeek

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i don't know enough about the law to comment on the legality, but i would probably find that pretty disturbing.
 

jai6638

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wow.. didn't think that the hynotist thing was real. I was always thought that the comedian picked a few actors and did a show on these actors who had been picked before the show itself.
 

Jugernot

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Well, the most disturbing thing was the mob mentality. When the woman started stripping, Rich would yell out "The louder you are, the more skin she'll show...." to which EVERYONE in the joint would yell and scream. He'd keep doing it until they finally showed something, whether it was pulling her shirt up and showing other intimate parts of her body.

Don't get me wrong, he did it to the guys too.... but taking your shirt off for a guy is different than for a girl.
 

Jugernot

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Originally posted by: Drako
How much was your wife paid to fake her "hypnotism"?

That is what I was thinking too, but knowing some of the people on the stage I can say 100% they wouldn't have done some of the things they did for even a large sum of money.
 

darkxshade

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I know hypnotism is real but this is the kind of thing I need to see with my own eyes to believe.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
I know hypnotism is real but this is the kind of thing I need to see with my own eyes to believe.

one came to college while i was there, similar stuff happened, it was pretty funny
 

Jugernot

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Ohhh, also... he sells DVDs of each hypnotism on his website.... what about the girls who showed their "stuff"???? He's basically doing the same thing as the Girls gone wild videos... except they are under hypnosis.

Just doesn't seem right.

Rich Guzzi's website
 

lokiju

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Man that's some crazy stuff that he got people to show nudity.

The guy has no morals if he'd do that if these people truly were under his control.

FWIW my cousin went to some type of show like this and was brought up on stage she says she really had no control over what she was doing.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: lokiju
Man that's some crazy stuff that he got people to show nudity.

The guy has no morals if he'd do that if these people truly were under his control.

FWIW my cousin went to some type of show like this and was brought up on state she says she really had no control over what she was doing.

That would rock on the bar scene:

"So...can I have your number"
"Hell NO!"
"Look into my eyes.....BBBZZAAAAPPP!!!!...Now, can I have your number?"
"Yes Master...."
 

jagec

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I've never seen hypnosis personally, so I'm not totally sure about it, but I agree that if he is truly controlling them and they did not agree to perform those actions (or sign a waiver that included the possibility), he should be held legally liable. ESPECIALLY if he's selling the DVDs.
 

jonks

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If hypnosis (as he performed it) were real would he not just hypnotize people and have them give him money, hypnotize women to have sex with him, hypnotize the irs so he wouldn't have to pay taxes, hypnotize the rest of the audience so they wouldn't think to sue him?

"Bu bu but it doesn't work on everyone!"

So he'd go to a bar and try it on everyone till he found 10 people it did work on.

Next you'll tell me a guy sawed a woman in half on stage and yet she somehow didn't die!
 

tmc

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: lokiju
Man that's some crazy stuff that he got people to show nudity.

The guy has no morals if he'd do that if these people truly were under his control.

FWIW my cousin went to some type of show like this and was brought up on state she says she really had no control over what she was doing.

That would rock on the bar scene:

"So...can I have your number"
"Hell NO!"
"Look into my eyes.....BBBZZAAAAPPP!!!!...Now, can I have your number?"
"Yes Master...."


hypnotism = jedi mind trick??? :)
 

Demon-Xanth

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There was one hypnotist that ended up in major legal trouble after a session brought up flashbacks of the person being abused as a child. Therapy bills aren't cheap.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
my understanding of hypnotism is that you cannot be hypnotized to do something you don't want to do.

That is correct. The idea that subjects are under the hapless "control" of the hypnotist is what is a myth. Not everyone is easily hypnotizable, either. For some people it is practically impossible.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
my understanding of hypnotism is that you cannot be hypnotized to do something you don't want to do.

That is correct. The idea that subjects are under the hapless "control" of the hypnotist is what is a myth. Not everyone is easily hypnotizable, either. For some people it is practically impossible.

yes you also have to be open to being hypnotized. You cannot hypnotize someone that doesn't want to be.
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Wasn't there a mythbusters on this?

edit: no that was subliminal messages wasn't it...

No, it was on mythbusters and was busted. You can hypnotize someone but they have to be willing to receive the suggestions. Thus you cannot make someone do something they do not want to do which is why I can't believe the OPs story unless I saw it with my own eyes. It does work though, people have used it to quit smoking, or so I've heard.