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Legal question.

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BlancoNino

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Lets say a guy and a girl are talking in a chat room. The guy is 28 and the girl is 16. The problem is, the girl says she is 19. They have an "internet romance". After awhile, they send pictures...some of them are a little innapropriate. Then, a little while after that, the girl tells him the truth that she is only 16. The guy quickly deletes the pictures she sent him and all others that she sends him...but they continue to talk and he says they should wait until they are 18 before they see eachother, but can still continue to talk.

The father of the girl finds out and decides to press charges of exploiting a minor, child pornography, etc.

What happens? Is there any criminal intent? Is there any credibility to the plaintiffs side?

Discuss.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
lol
you're in trouble now, you perv.
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Hehe, nah. This was a homework question for my political science class. We're allowed to work together and outside of class, but we have to have a good paper written with as much information as we can possibly come up with.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
lol
you're in trouble now, you perv.
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Hehe, nah. This was a homework question for my political science class. We're allowed to work together and outside of class, but we have to have a good paper written with as much information as we can possibly come up with.
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oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
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Actually, part of my homework is to ask people and get some opinions. The real grade comes from the paper I write. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
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Actually, part of my homework is to ask people and get some opinions. The real grade comes from the paper I write. 🙂
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oh sure. now you're a lying, lazy, pedophile.
are you gonna come up with an excuse for everything?
 
I think that as soon as the guy found out how old she was, he should have discontinued all communications with her. At that age difference, what in the world would he have in common with her anyway?? Even at 19yrs old... the thinking mind of a 28year old guy and a 19year old girl are vastly different.

As far as her only being 16yrs old... In this day and time... that is a lifelong stigma that is not worth carrying. And as they say... the grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.

He needs to disconnect and find someone who is of legal age.
 
Mens rea is the Latin term for "guilty mind" used in the criminal law.
The standard common law test of criminal liability is usually expressed in the Latin phrase, actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, which means that "the act will not make a person guilty unless the mind is also guilty". Thus, in jurisdictions with due process, there must be an actus reus accompanied by some level of mens rea to constitute the crime with which the defendant is charged (see the technical requirement of concurrence).

The exception is strict liability crimes (in the civil law, it is not usually necessary to prove a subjective mental element to establish liability, say for breach of contract or a tort, although if intentionally committed, this may increase the measure of damages payable to compensate the plaintiff).
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
Click to expand...

Actually, part of my homework is to ask people and get some opinions. The real grade comes from the paper I write. 🙂
Click to expand...

oh sure. now you're a lying, lazy, pedophile.
are you gonna come up with an excuse for everything?
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Dude shut the fvck up and either respond to his question or get the fvck out of the thread.
 
Originally posted by: MaverickBP
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
Click to expand...

Actually, part of my homework is to ask people and get some opinions. The real grade comes from the paper I write. 🙂
Click to expand...

oh sure. now you're a lying, lazy, pedophile.
are you gonna come up with an excuse for everything?
Click to expand...

Dude shut the fvck up and either respond to his question or get the fvck out of the thread.
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i don't see your response to this thread
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
Click to expand...

Actually, part of my homework is to ask people and get some opinions. The real grade comes from the paper I write. 🙂
Click to expand...

oh sure. now you're a lying, lazy, pedophile.
are you gonna come up with an excuse for everything?
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heh.

i read the post ant then looked who posted it. i was not shocked it was from blancoNino at all.

I keep waiting for him to post a thread "got busted on to catch a predator 🙁 "
 
Originally posted by: waggy
i read the post ant then looked who posted it. i was not shocked it was from blancoNino at all.

I keep waiting for him to post a thread "got busted on to catch a predator 🙁 "
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I'll admit I was sort of anticpating some of the old jokes about me, but I really don't mind them. I chuckle right along and enjoy reading them!
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Lets say a guy and a girl are talking in a chat room. The guy is 28 and the girl is 16. The problem is, the girl says she is 19. They have an "internet romance". After awhile, they send pictures...some of them are a little innapropriate. Then, a little while after that, the girl tells him the truth that she is only 16. The guy quickly deletes the pictures she sent him and all others that she sends him...but they continue to talk and he says they should wait until they are 18 before they see eachother, but can still continue to talk.

The father of the girl finds out and decides to press charges of exploiting a minor, child pornography, etc.

What happens? Is there any criminal intent? Is there any credibility to the plaintiffs side?

Discuss.
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I would think he's OK. Seems to me when I watch those Perverted Justice - type shows that the perv has always been informed by the girl in their internet chat discussions that she is underage. They always present the perv with copies of their discussion proving that he knew. I suppose they do this because "intent" must be proven.

That's not the case here.

Also, need to check state laws. Seems to me that I've read that 16 yrs is old enough in many states. It came up often in the recent Foley scandel.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Lets say a guy and a girl are talking in a chat room. The guy is 28 and the girl is 16. The problem is, the girl says she is 19. They have an "internet romance". After awhile, they send pictures...some of them are a little innapropriate. Then, a little while after that, the girl tells him the truth that she is only 16. The guy quickly deletes the pictures she sent him and all others that she sends him...but they continue to talk and he says they should wait until they are 18 before they see eachother, but can still continue to talk.

The father of the girl finds out and decides to press charges of exploiting a minor, child pornography, etc.

What happens? Is there any criminal intent? Is there any credibility to the plaintiffs side?

Discuss.
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You should hopefully be more mature at 28 that you don't need to hit on 19 year old egirls, and you definetly don't need to be talking to 16 year olds.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: MaverickBP
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
Click to expand...

Actually, part of my homework is to ask people and get some opinions. The real grade comes from the paper I write. 🙂
Click to expand...

oh sure. now you're a lying, lazy, pedophile.
are you gonna come up with an excuse for everything?
Click to expand...

Dude shut the fvck up and either respond to his question or get the fvck out of the thread.
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i don't see your response to this thread
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Your already a lifer. Stop posting crap just to increase your post count. 846+ posts a month of crap like this takes away from what the title "lifer" use to be. I will post my response to the OP and leave this thread. By all means feel free post your rebuttal to increase your e-penis and your post count unrefuted as I won't see it.

As for the OP's question. If he cut all contact once he found out her age than he'd have more of a defense. Continuing the contact with her just makes him look guilty and could open up the possibility of him knowing all along if the prosecutor saw fit to show it that way.
 
Originally posted by: MaverickBP
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: MaverickBP
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
oh, so now you want us to do your homework for you?
so you're a lazy pedophile
Click to expand...

Actually, part of my homework is to ask people and get some opinions. The real grade comes from the paper I write. 🙂
Click to expand...

oh sure. now you're a lying, lazy, pedophile.
are you gonna come up with an excuse for everything?
Click to expand...

Dude shut the fvck up and either respond to his question or get the fvck out of the thread.
Click to expand...

i don't see your response to this thread
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Your already a lifer. Stop posting crap just to increase your post count. 846+ posts a month of crap like this takes away from what the title "lifer" use to be. I will post my response to the OP and leave this thread. By all means feel free post your rebuttal to increase your e-penis and your post count unrefuted as I won't see it.

As for the OP's question. If he cut all contact once he found out her age than he'd have more of a defense. Continuing the contact with her just makes him look guilty and could open up the possibility of him knowing all along if the prosecutor saw fit to show it that way.
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post count means crap to me. reset my posts to 0. see if i give a sh!t. maybe you're after post count but i sure as hell am not, so take your forum elitist attitude somewhere else. the title lifer never meant anything, other than people who post a lot on this forum. go look at some of the lifers' posts and see what they are saying - lots of trolling and neffing. if you think having some stupid title next to your name on an internet forum means you're better than someone else, you need to fvcking grow up.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: pontifex
lol
you're in trouble now, you perv.
Click to expand...

Hehe, nah. This was a homework question for my political science class. We're allowed to work together and outside of class, but we have to have a good paper written with as much information as we can possibly come up with.
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Sure it was.:laugh:
 
Considering they exchanged photos, he should have cut off all contact with the girl. If he had copies of their conversations, where she stated she was 19 it would be a very good thing for him legally.
 
This is a useless question without knowing what state the parties are in and/or the wording of the laws the guy is going to be prosecuted under.

(BTW, in criminal law, there are no plaintiffs. Generally speaking, there is the prosecution, the defense and either the complainant or the victim.)

MotionMan, Esq. (really)
 
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