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Legal question about a job...

plastick

plastick

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Let's say I got a job at a wood mill where they pay me cash under the table in the form of a check. I never had to sign any papers at all, just got hired there and started working and getting a check each week (And I think every other employee there was hired and gets payed the same way)

Now is this totally illegal?? Or is it my choice if I want to not pay taxes and loose the potential social security as well as help from the gov't if I were in need of it?

Is this safe for me? should I leave or stay? Its great pay.. $7 hour and I get TONS of hours..

What do you all think?
 
What your employer is doing is illegal to avoid taxes. That being said, I know a lot of businesses and inviduals who do the same thing.
 
wood mill? working under the table, no record of you as an employee there...just dont get hurt at work, or you are screwed. good luck!
 
Probably illegal. $7 isn't much above minimum wage. I wouldn't call that great pay. Yes there are some places in the country where that is the highest paying job. But it certainly isn't 'great'.

If (1) you have at least some of the mill customers pay directly to you, and (2) if you are willing to pay double the normal payroll taxes, and if (3) you claim that you have a small buisness of your own doing contract mill work, then it is legal.
 
Originally posted by: richardycc
wood mill? working under the table, no record of you as an employee there...just dont get hurt at work, or you are screwed. good luck!
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lol thats what i was thinking.. its really not that dangerous with the stuff we do.. but I was just trying to think clearly about this is see if i should quit, as I do not want to be doing anything illegal!!
 
AND HE IS paying you by check? how many other employees does he have? This is illegal if he ever gets cought. infact if he ever screws you over you can report him and he will be required to pay up all your taxes for you...
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Probably illegal. $7 isn't much above minimum wage. I wouldn't call that great pay. Yes there are some places in the country where that is the highest paying job. But it certainly isn't 'great'.

If (1) you have at least some of the mill customers pay directly to you, and (2) if you are willing to pay double the normal payroll taxes, and if (3) you claim that you have a small buisness of your own doing contract mill work, then it is legal.
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what??? dude, i got like $200 for a little over 3 days worth of work
 
Originally posted by: helo7050
AND HE IS paying you by check? how many other employees does he have? This is illegal if he ever gets cought. infact if he ever screws you over you can report him and he will be required to pay up all your taxes for you...
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Dizzam!!
 
Most likely illegal. At the end of the year, they will 1099 you and claim your an independant contractor. You will be liable for your state/fed/ss/mdi taxes. If you don't file on the money and the IRS finds out, your in extra trouble.
 
Or is it my choice if I want to not pay taxes and loose the potential social security as well as help from the gov't if I were in need of it?
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Btw, that line is hillarious
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Most likely illegal. At the end of the year, they will 1099 you and claim your an independant contractor. You will be liable for your state/fed/ss/mdi taxes. If you don't file on the money and the IRS finds out, your in extra trouble.
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really?? im going to ask my employer tomorrow...
 
The business will have a trail of cash leading to you. If it ever gets questioned, as mentioned above, they'll claim you're an independent contractor. Thus its your responsibility to properly pay the IRS for your earnings.
 
Originally posted by: Kilrsat
The business will have a trail of cash leading to you. If it ever gets questioned, as mentioned above, they'll claim you're an independent contractor. Thus its your responsibility to properly pay the IRS for your earnings.
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yeah.. i didnt think of that. thanks..
 
Not against the law. He will probably end up giving you a sheet where you have to do your own taxes.
If he hired you all as sub contractors what he is doing is legit. You on the other hand if this was done havent been saving to pay your taxes I feel sorry for you and I would ask him whats up to be sure.
If it was all cash under the table it wouldnt be so bad but hes paying you with a check and that is trackable.
 
Originally posted by: funboy42
Not against the law. He will probably end up giving you a sheet where you have to do your own taxes.
If he hired you all as sub contractors what he is doing is legit. You on the other hand if this was done havent been saving to pay your taxes I feel sorry for you and I woul dask him whats up to be sure.
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yeah im going to ask him.. but the thing is, i was never really "hired." Basically, I walked in one day and started working.. i wasnt even introduced to ANYONE.. i just came with a friend..
 
Unless you are being paid CASH, you will almost certainly get caught. The IRS has a term for what you're doing: tax evasion. I have a relative who gets pissed off every year because he works "under the table" for different places, but ends up getting sent a 1099 every year, which means the employer notified the IRS of his wages. Never saves money for his back taxes, and somehow it's the fault of whoever he's working for, even though it happens every damn year. :roll: The penalties really add up.
 
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Unless you are being paid CASH, you will almost certainly get caught. The IRS has a term for what you're doing: tax evasion. I have a relative who gets pissed off every year because he works "under the table" for different places, but ends up getting sent a 1099 every year, which means the employer notified the IRS of his wages. Never saves money for his back taxes, and somehow it's the fault of whoever he's working for, even though it happens every damn year. :roll: The penalties really add up.
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Tax evasion.. I was trying to think of that term... lol.. well im getting this stuff straightened out tomorrow. Luckally I have only gotten 4 checks from them, as this is a new job.

Thanks everyone for your input!!
 
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