leftists gay-bashing Guckert/Gannon?

[kylebisme]

Dmens tells me that there was a rash of leftist gay-bashing Guckert/Gannon, which I honestly can't say I have seen evidence off. However, Dmens seems compelled to about it and I am always interested in learning new things, but I don't want to denial Votingisanillusion thread where this side topic sprung up, so I'll paste the relevant comments below.

Originally posted by: dmens
The amazing thing about the Jeff Gannon "story" is the vicious gay-bashing the leftists indulged in, which was far worse than anything I've ever seen. Even David Corn at The Nation admits there is no story.

It seems like the lefties care more about a reporter's sexual orientation than objective coverage and loyalty to the facts. Hi Dan!

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Can't say I have seen any gay-bashing directed towards Guckert/Gannon; but regardless, that is rather off topic in this thread.

Originally posted by: dmens
That is absurd. Gay-bashing was pervasive on leftist discussion threads, and Gannon's sexual orientation was a key focus. Andrew Sullivan, a gay moderate reporter, was quite disgusted with the leftie antics. Don't believe me? Go on DU or indy/commiemedia and look for Gannon threads.

When uberleft Nation admits there is no story, it proves that the people still obsessed with the non-scandal are a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing nutcases.

So Dmens,, are you simply referring to fringe posters on extremist forums or is there more to it than that? As for Andrew Sullivan's comments, best I what he is calling gay-bashing is nothing more than people calling the administration on the hypocrisy of alining themselves with someone who so clearly contradicts their publicly presented stance on morality.

 

[dmens]

Don't you see? Only the fringe extremists remain obsessed with the Gannon non-story.

As for morality, here's what Bush has to say:

?I?m not going to kick gays, because I?m a sinner. How can I differentiate sin??

"No, what I said was I wouldn't fire gays... I'm not going to discriminate against people."

Bush never condemned homosexuality in his two presidential campaigns, even when he was urged by the religious right. So much for hypocrisy.

If you read Sullivan correctly, he was objecting to the raw homophobic rhetoric used by the left, the self-anointed supporters of the gay community. That is the real hypocrisy.

 

[kylebisme]

I never suggested that Bush never condemned homosexuality, but his efforts to amend the Constitution gave myself and many others the impression that he has moral objections toward homosexuality, and the fact that hasn't made any strides towards another amendment to legalize prostitution gives the impression that opposes that as well. Granted, such impressions could be incorrect, but unless Bush makes the effort to come out and clearly state his position on such matters it is left to matters of opinion.

As for Sullivan's objections, I saw them, but without seeing the context of what he was objecting to I can't rightly reach a conclusion on the validity of his claims.

 

[dmens]

Of course Bush has moral objections toward homosexuality and prostitution. The fact that there was a gay reporter in the White House press corps who used to be a male escort doesn't mean a damn.

You seem to be making judgements on Bush based on what he did not do. Well, he might be busy with other, more important matters right now.

As for homophobic rhetoric, I invite you to go to Democratic Underground and take a look for yourself. I'm not going to post any links because I try to avoid that vile site.

 

[kylebisme]

Well I would agree that it "doesn't mean a damn" if it wasn't for the stringent background checks required for admittance to the White House press corps. Regardless, Guckert's/Gannon's sexual history is minor in my book compared to his lack of journalistic history. Furthermore, I'm by no means suggesting that Bush personally reviews such things, I simply see what happened as a evidence of gaping hole in the boat which disappoints me as I expect the President to be running a tight ship.

As for Democratic Underground, I have no interest in visiting the site either and I honestly don't see your point in bringing it up. I mean, I could just as easily dig up some site with nuts who are far off the deep end to the right, people calling for the systematic elimination of all Musliums; but it would be absurd to present that as evidence that right-wingers are genocidal maniacs.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: dmens
Don't you see? Only the fringe extremists remain obsessed with the Gannon non-story.

As for morality, here's what Bush has to say:

?I?m not going to kick gays, because I?m a sinner. How can I differentiate sin??

"No, what I said was I wouldn't fire gays... I'm not going to discriminate against people."

Bush never condemned homosexuality in his two presidential campaigns, even when he was urged by the religious right. So much for hypocrisy.

If you read Sullivan correctly, he was objecting to the raw homophobic rhetoric used by the left, the self-anointed supporters of the gay community. That is the real hypocrisy.

Bush has nothing against gays, he's just willing to use homophobia as a political tool, something I think is despicable.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dmens
Don't you see? Only the fringe extremists remain obsessed with the Gannon non-story.

As for morality, here's what Bush has to say:

?I?m not going to kick gays, because I?m a sinner. How can I differentiate sin??

"No, what I said was I wouldn't fire gays... I'm not going to discriminate against people."

Bush never condemned homosexuality in his two presidential campaigns, even when he was urged by the religious right. So much for hypocrisy.

If you read Sullivan correctly, he was objecting to the raw homophobic rhetoric used by the left, the self-anointed supporters of the gay community. That is the real hypocrisy.

Bush has nothing against gays, he's just willing to use homophobia as a political tool, something I think is despicable.

Using homophobia as a political tool is exactly what the left has been doing in this case, so I assume you are disgusted by the left and their tactics currently on public display as well?